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4/28/2015  1:12 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/28/2015  1:14 PM
crzymdups wrote:If we're still in fantasy land, my pick is still Marc Gasol. Not sure why he's less realistic than Jimmy Butler. Butler is RFA and there is ZERO CHANCE Chicago doesn't match.

Marc Gasol is unrestricted, his brother loved Phil Jackson, his friend Jose Calderon is on the team, Memphis is a small market and that team may have maxed out its potential.

The cap is going from 63mm to atleast 108 that an increase of 71%. I think every Knick fan might have to come to the realization that we are not getting ANY top tier RFA considering the discount(including Kanter although out of everyone IF you do the math and roster check hes probably the only possible target as they have to pay Westbrook and Durant close to 32mm each)

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crzymdups wrote:If we're still in fantasy land, my pick is still Marc Gasol. Not sure why he's less realistic than Jimmy Butler. Butler is RFA and there is ZERO CHANCE Chicago doesn't match.

Marc Gasol is unrestricted, his brother loved Phil Jackson, his friend Jose Calderon is on the team, Memphis is a small market and that team may have maxed out its potential.

In dream world, I want Deandre Jordan. If we got KAT as well, I am envisioning that Kentucky dynamic with Jordan playing the role of a rich man's Cauley-Stein. I think those two would create such an imposing defensive presence in the paint.

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4/28/2015  1:17 PM
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crzymdups wrote:If we're still in fantasy land, my pick is still Marc Gasol. Not sure why he's less realistic than Jimmy Butler. Butler is RFA and there is ZERO CHANCE Chicago doesn't match.

Marc Gasol is unrestricted, his brother loved Phil Jackson, his friend Jose Calderon is on the team, Memphis is a small market and that team may have maxed out its potential.

The cap is going from 63mm to atleast 108 that an increase of 71%. I think every Knick fan might have to come to the realization that we are not getting ANY top tier RFA considering the discount(including Kanter although out of everyone IF you do the math and roster check hes probably the only possible target as they have to pay Westbrook and Durant close to 32mm each)


In reality, we're getting Greg Monroe and that's pretty much who it will be. He's represented by Falk, who represents Jordan and also Elton Brand who Phil curiously keeps trying to chase.

It's gonna be Greg Monroe and whoever we draft.

Asking Phil to think outside the box... it's not gonna happen. This guy barely understands how to think inside the box as a GM.

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4/28/2015  1:18 PM
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crzymdups wrote:If we're still in fantasy land, my pick is still Marc Gasol. Not sure why he's less realistic than Jimmy Butler. Butler is RFA and there is ZERO CHANCE Chicago doesn't match.

Marc Gasol is unrestricted, his brother loved Phil Jackson, his friend Jose Calderon is on the team, Memphis is a small market and that team may have maxed out its potential.

The cap is going from 63mm to atleast 108 that an increase of 71%. I think every Knick fan might have to come to the realization that we are not getting ANY top tier RFA considering the discount(including Kanter although out of everyone IF you do the math and roster check hes probably the only possible target as they have to pay Westbrook and Durant close to 32mm each)

I would agree with this sentiment. The only place I questioned it was Middleton because they will then have 2 Max SGs. That said, I am not surprised if Milwaukee matched.

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4/28/2015  1:19 PM
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crzymdups wrote:If we're still in fantasy land, my pick is still Marc Gasol. Not sure why he's less realistic than Jimmy Butler. Butler is RFA and there is ZERO CHANCE Chicago doesn't match.

Marc Gasol is unrestricted, his brother loved Phil Jackson, his friend Jose Calderon is on the team, Memphis is a small market and that team may have maxed out its potential.

In dream world, I want Deandre Jordan. If we got KAT as well, I am envisioning that Kentucky dynamic with Jordan playing the role of a rich man's Cauley-Stein. I think those two would create such an imposing defensive presence in the paint.

I would sign up for that. But first we'd have to get Towns, which we have a 19.9% chance of.

So, we'll see. Fingers crossed on my end that it's Russell or Towns.

I wouldn't hate Okafor... but I would hate if we got Okafor and then also signed Monroe. I would really hate that and I sort of worry it's Phil's plan.

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crzymdups wrote:
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crzymdups wrote:If we're still in fantasy land, my pick is still Marc Gasol. Not sure why he's less realistic than Jimmy Butler. Butler is RFA and there is ZERO CHANCE Chicago doesn't match.

Marc Gasol is unrestricted, his brother loved Phil Jackson, his friend Jose Calderon is on the team, Memphis is a small market and that team may have maxed out its potential.

In dream world, I want Deandre Jordan. If we got KAT as well, I am envisioning that Kentucky dynamic with Jordan playing the role of a rich man's Cauley-Stein. I think those two would create such an imposing defensive presence in the paint.

I would sign up for that. But first we'd have to get Towns, which we have a 19.9% chance of.

So, we'll see. Fingers crossed on my end that it's Russell or Towns.

I wouldn't hate Okafor... but I would hate if we got Okafor and then also signed Monroe. I would really hate that and I sort of worry it's Phil's plan.

Yeah, I could not do OK4 and Jordan either. Our team FT% would be like 45%.

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4/28/2015  1:22 PM
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crzymdups wrote:If we're still in fantasy land, my pick is still Marc Gasol. Not sure why he's less realistic than Jimmy Butler. Butler is RFA and there is ZERO CHANCE Chicago doesn't match.

Marc Gasol is unrestricted, his brother loved Phil Jackson, his friend Jose Calderon is on the team, Memphis is a small market and that team may have maxed out its potential.

The cap is going from 63mm to atleast 108 that an increase of 71%. I think every Knick fan might have to come to the realization that we are not getting ANY top tier RFA considering the discount(including Kanter although out of everyone IF you do the math and roster check hes probably the only possible target as they have to pay Westbrook and Durant close to 32mm each)

I would agree with this sentiment. The only place I questioned it was Middleton because they will then have 2 Max SGs. That said, I am not surprised if Milwaukee matched.

Its pretty easy--even Kanter--why doesnt OKC or any other team simply match and if they dont want them--trade down the line. The salaries will be cheap in 2 years. If we take a strong and realistic view--NO RFA is leaving their team. Cryz is right its either Monroe or possibly Lopez or really pay up for guys who are going to get higher salaries than they would otherwise.

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4/28/2015  1:23 PM
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crzymdups wrote:
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crzymdups wrote:If we're still in fantasy land, my pick is still Marc Gasol. Not sure why he's less realistic than Jimmy Butler. Butler is RFA and there is ZERO CHANCE Chicago doesn't match.

Marc Gasol is unrestricted, his brother loved Phil Jackson, his friend Jose Calderon is on the team, Memphis is a small market and that team may have maxed out its potential.

In dream world, I want Deandre Jordan. If we got KAT as well, I am envisioning that Kentucky dynamic with Jordan playing the role of a rich man's Cauley-Stein. I think those two would create such an imposing defensive presence in the paint.

I would sign up for that. But first we'd have to get Towns, which we have a 19.9% chance of.

So, we'll see. Fingers crossed on my end that it's Russell or Towns.

I wouldn't hate Okafor... but I would hate if we got Okafor and then also signed Monroe. I would really hate that and I sort of worry it's Phil's plan.

Yeah, I could not do OK4 and Jordan either. Our team FT% would be like 45%.

OK4 will definitely improve his FT shooting. I have doubts he'll improve his defense, but I am quite sure he'll develop an 8-10ft jumper and fix his FTs.

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4/28/2015  1:24 PM
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crzymdups wrote:If we're still in fantasy land, my pick is still Marc Gasol. Not sure why he's less realistic than Jimmy Butler. Butler is RFA and there is ZERO CHANCE Chicago doesn't match.

Marc Gasol is unrestricted, his brother loved Phil Jackson, his friend Jose Calderon is on the team, Memphis is a small market and that team may have maxed out its potential.

The cap is going from 63mm to atleast 108 that an increase of 71%. I think every Knick fan might have to come to the realization that we are not getting ANY top tier RFA considering the discount(including Kanter although out of everyone IF you do the math and roster check hes probably the only possible target as they have to pay Westbrook and Durant close to 32mm each)

I would agree with this sentiment. The only place I questioned it was Middleton because they will then have 2 Max SGs. That said, I am not surprised if Milwaukee matched.

Its pretty easy--even Kanter--why doesnt OKC or any other team simply match and if they dont want them--trade down the line. The salaries will be cheap in 2 years. If we take a strong and realistic view--NO RFA is leaving their team. Cryz is right its either Monroe or possibly Lopez or really pay up for guys who are going to get higher salaries than they would otherwise.

You are correct. 100% correct.

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4/28/2015  1:29 PM
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BRIGGS wrote:
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crzymdups wrote:If we're still in fantasy land, my pick is still Marc Gasol. Not sure why he's less realistic than Jimmy Butler. Butler is RFA and there is ZERO CHANCE Chicago doesn't match.

Marc Gasol is unrestricted, his brother loved Phil Jackson, his friend Jose Calderon is on the team, Memphis is a small market and that team may have maxed out its potential.

The cap is going from 63mm to atleast 108 that an increase of 71%. I think every Knick fan might have to come to the realization that we are not getting ANY top tier RFA considering the discount(including Kanter although out of everyone IF you do the math and roster check hes probably the only possible target as they have to pay Westbrook and Durant close to 32mm each)

I would agree with this sentiment. The only place I questioned it was Middleton because they will then have 2 Max SGs. That said, I am not surprised if Milwaukee matched.

Its pretty easy--even Kanter--why doesnt OKC or any other team simply match and if they dont want them--trade down the line. The salaries will be cheap in 2 years. If we take a strong and realistic view--NO RFA is leaving their team. Cryz is right its either Monroe or possibly Lopez or really pay up for guys who are going to get higher salaries than they would otherwise.

You are correct. 100% correct.

Evene with Phil saying well be cheap--why be cheap--the cap is going up 71% guys like Anjica will be getting 8-9mm not 3-4mm. Any RFA over the next 2 years is going NO where.

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crzymdups wrote:If we're still in fantasy land, my pick is still Marc Gasol. Not sure why he's less realistic than Jimmy Butler. Butler is RFA and there is ZERO CHANCE Chicago doesn't match.

Marc Gasol is unrestricted, his brother loved Phil Jackson, his friend Jose Calderon is on the team, Memphis is a small market and that team may have maxed out its potential.

The cap is going from 63mm to atleast 108 that an increase of 71%. I think every Knick fan might have to come to the realization that we are not getting ANY top tier RFA considering the discount(including Kanter although out of everyone IF you do the math and roster check hes probably the only possible target as they have to pay Westbrook and Durant close to 32mm each)

I would agree with this sentiment. The only place I questioned it was Middleton because they will then have 2 Max SGs. That said, I am not surprised if Milwaukee matched.

Its pretty easy--even Kanter--why doesnt OKC or any other team simply match and if they dont want them--trade down the line. The salaries will be cheap in 2 years. If we take a strong and realistic view--NO RFA is leaving their team. Cryz is right its either Monroe or possibly Lopez or really pay up for guys who are going to get higher salaries than they would otherwise.

You are correct. 100% correct.

Evene with Phil saying well be cheap--why be cheap--the cap is going up 71% guys like Anjica will be getting 8-9mm not 3-4mm. Any RFA over the next 2 years is going NO where.

The only argument against your statement is the possibility of a lockout. The cap is clearly tied to basketball related income, so I would think Owners would be getting their fair share of the television contracts anyway, so that argument doesn't really work, but overpaying today with the belief that you will have lots of money tomorrow doesn't feel right.

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4/28/2015  1:34 PM
EwingsGlass wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
crzymdups wrote:If we're still in fantasy land, my pick is still Marc Gasol. Not sure why he's less realistic than Jimmy Butler. Butler is RFA and there is ZERO CHANCE Chicago doesn't match.

Marc Gasol is unrestricted, his brother loved Phil Jackson, his friend Jose Calderon is on the team, Memphis is a small market and that team may have maxed out its potential.

The cap is going from 63mm to atleast 108 that an increase of 71%. I think every Knick fan might have to come to the realization that we are not getting ANY top tier RFA considering the discount(including Kanter although out of everyone IF you do the math and roster check hes probably the only possible target as they have to pay Westbrook and Durant close to 32mm each)

I would agree with this sentiment. The only place I questioned it was Middleton because they will then have 2 Max SGs. That said, I am not surprised if Milwaukee matched.

Its pretty easy--even Kanter--why doesnt OKC or any other team simply match and if they dont want them--trade down the line. The salaries will be cheap in 2 years. If we take a strong and realistic view--NO RFA is leaving their team. Cryz is right its either Monroe or possibly Lopez or really pay up for guys who are going to get higher salaries than they would otherwise.

You are correct. 100% correct.

Evene with Phil saying well be cheap--why be cheap--the cap is going up 71% guys like Anjica will be getting 8-9mm not 3-4mm. Any RFA over the next 2 years is going NO where.

The only argument against your statement is the possibility of a lockout. The cap is clearly tied to basketball related income, so I would think Owners would be getting their fair share of the television contracts anyway, so that argument doesn't really work, but overpaying today with the belief that you will have lots of money tomorrow doesn't feel right.

I agree that owners are going to hate this... but I think they'll hate it in 2017, not now.

In fact, in some twisted way, I think they may allow their front offices to go on spending sprees in the next 18 months to sort of justify a 2017 lockout.

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4/28/2015  1:38 PM
crzymdups wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:
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crzymdups wrote:If we're still in fantasy land, my pick is still Marc Gasol. Not sure why he's less realistic than Jimmy Butler. Butler is RFA and there is ZERO CHANCE Chicago doesn't match.

Marc Gasol is unrestricted, his brother loved Phil Jackson, his friend Jose Calderon is on the team, Memphis is a small market and that team may have maxed out its potential.

The cap is going from 63mm to atleast 108 that an increase of 71%. I think every Knick fan might have to come to the realization that we are not getting ANY top tier RFA considering the discount(including Kanter although out of everyone IF you do the math and roster check hes probably the only possible target as they have to pay Westbrook and Durant close to 32mm each)

I would agree with this sentiment. The only place I questioned it was Middleton because they will then have 2 Max SGs. That said, I am not surprised if Milwaukee matched.

Its pretty easy--even Kanter--why doesnt OKC or any other team simply match and if they dont want them--trade down the line. The salaries will be cheap in 2 years. If we take a strong and realistic view--NO RFA is leaving their team. Cryz is right its either Monroe or possibly Lopez or really pay up for guys who are going to get higher salaries than they would otherwise.

You are correct. 100% correct.

Evene with Phil saying well be cheap--why be cheap--the cap is going up 71% guys like Anjica will be getting 8-9mm not 3-4mm. Any RFA over the next 2 years is going NO where.

The only argument against your statement is the possibility of a lockout. The cap is clearly tied to basketball related income, so I would think Owners would be getting their fair share of the television contracts anyway, so that argument doesn't really work, but overpaying today with the belief that you will have lots of money tomorrow doesn't feel right.

I agree that owners are going to hate this... but I think they'll hate it in 2017, not now.

In fact, in some twisted way, I think they may allow their front offices to go on spending sprees in the next 18 months to sort of justify a 2017 lockout.

One and One contracts like Lebron's contract seems fitting.

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4/28/2015  1:44 PM
crzymdups wrote:If we're still in fantasy land, my pick is still Marc Gasol. Not sure why he's less realistic than Jimmy Butler. Butler is RFA and there is ZERO CHANCE Chicago doesn't match.

Marc Gasol is unrestricted, his brother loved Phil Jackson, his friend Jose Calderon is on the team, Memphis is a small market and that team may have maxed out its potential.

At first I was down on the idea but Gasol is perfect. We need a good vet upfront. I thought Gasol only with Towns and not OK4 as he and OK4 would bump in the post but Gasol might be the perfect mentor for Jah. For starters Gasol's offense is moving further from the basket each year. Jah is a guy with great size and power and learning defense from Gasol is the perfect guy. Gasol won DPOY and is one of the least athletic guys in the league. People like to cling to OK4's Al Jefferson comparison.. well Gasol's was Todd McCullogh.

That FA money is going to go fast and we have a lot of young guys, we will be getting more and will need some quality veteran play and mentoring. Marc seems perfect for that role, but I havent had beers with the guy so who knows

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4/28/2015  1:53 PM
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crzymdups wrote:If we're still in fantasy land, my pick is still Marc Gasol. Not sure why he's less realistic than Jimmy Butler. Butler is RFA and there is ZERO CHANCE Chicago doesn't match.

Marc Gasol is unrestricted, his brother loved Phil Jackson, his friend Jose Calderon is on the team, Memphis is a small market and that team may have maxed out its potential.

At first I was down on the idea but Gasol is perfect. We need a good vet upfront. I thought Gasol only with Towns and not OK4 as he and OK4 would bump in the post but Gasol might be the perfect mentor for Jah. For starters Gasol's offense is moving further from the basket each year. Jah is a guy with great size and power and learning defense from Gasol is the perfect guy. Gasol won DPOY and is one of the least athletic guys in the league. People like to cling to OK4's Al Jefferson comparison.. well Gasol's was Todd McCullogh.

That FA money is going to go fast and we have a lot of young guys, we will be getting more and will need some quality veteran play and mentoring. Marc seems perfect for that role, but I havent had beers with the guy so who knows

were not getting gasol memphis will max him. if they need to explorea trade later thats what will happen. Even Detroit with Monroe--now that I have thought about it why exactly will Detroit not pay Monroe 5 years 80M? They can simply trade him in 3 months.

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4/28/2015  1:55 PM
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crzymdups wrote:If we're still in fantasy land, my pick is still Marc Gasol. Not sure why he's less realistic than Jimmy Butler. Butler is RFA and there is ZERO CHANCE Chicago doesn't match.

Marc Gasol is unrestricted, his brother loved Phil Jackson, his friend Jose Calderon is on the team, Memphis is a small market and that team may have maxed out its potential.

At first I was down on the idea but Gasol is perfect. We need a good vet upfront. I thought Gasol only with Towns and not OK4 as he and OK4 would bump in the post but Gasol might be the perfect mentor for Jah. For starters Gasol's offense is moving further from the basket each year. Jah is a guy with great size and power and learning defense from Gasol is the perfect guy. Gasol won DPOY and is one of the least athletic guys in the league. People like to cling to OK4's Al Jefferson comparison.. well Gasol's was Todd McCullogh.

That FA money is going to go fast and we have a lot of young guys, we will be getting more and will need some quality veteran play and mentoring. Marc seems perfect for that role, but I havent had beers with the guy so who knows

were not getting gasol memphis will max him. if they need to explorea trade later thats what will happen. Even Detroit with Monroe--now that I have thought about it why exactly will Detroit not pay Monroe 5 years 80M? They can simply trade him in 3 months.

I think Monroe wants out though. And I don't think Detroit loves him. Certainly not at $80M.

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4/28/2015  1:57 PM
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crzymdups wrote:If we're still in fantasy land, my pick is still Marc Gasol. Not sure why he's less realistic than Jimmy Butler. Butler is RFA and there is ZERO CHANCE Chicago doesn't match.

Marc Gasol is unrestricted, his brother loved Phil Jackson, his friend Jose Calderon is on the team, Memphis is a small market and that team may have maxed out its potential.

At first I was down on the idea but Gasol is perfect. We need a good vet upfront. I thought Gasol only with Towns and not OK4 as he and OK4 would bump in the post but Gasol might be the perfect mentor for Jah. For starters Gasol's offense is moving further from the basket each year. Jah is a guy with great size and power and learning defense from Gasol is the perfect guy. Gasol won DPOY and is one of the least athletic guys in the league. People like to cling to OK4's Al Jefferson comparison.. well Gasol's was Todd McCullogh.

That FA money is going to go fast and we have a lot of young guys, we will be getting more and will need some quality veteran play and mentoring. Marc seems perfect for that role, but I havent had beers with the guy so who knows

were not getting gasol memphis will max him. if they need to explorea trade later thats what will happen. Even Detroit with Monroe--now that I have thought about it why exactly will Detroit not pay Monroe 5 years 80M? They can simply trade him in 3 months.

If Gasol understands the 1&1 contract scheme, Memphis' max contract is meaningless. He can choose where he wants to play and make lots of money either way. Sounded to me like he wants to stay in Memphis, though.

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4/28/2015  2:00 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/28/2015  2:08 PM
Why I don't want Monroe..Grantland piece from 2013..

Monroe is a very good offensive player, but he’s a glaring liability on defense in a league getting smaller and quicker. He’s a turnstile trying to contain the pick-and-roll out on the floor — a mess of bad footwork, poor timing, lazy reaches, and bad choices. When Detroit has him hang back at the foul line, ball handlers can zip around him with an easy crossover or launch wide-open jumpers as Monroe, petrified at giving up a rim run, retreats a step farther than most bigs would dare — often with his arms down. Pistons fans complained, with some justification, about Lawrence Frank’s reluctance to play Monroe and Drummond together for much of last season, but Monroe’s total inability to guard stretchier power forwards factored into that choice — just as it should factor into Detroit’s evaluation of things now.

When the Pistons asked Monroe to attack the ball higher on the floor, the mess was almost worse. Point guards can juke Monroe with laughable ease by faking toward a screener, watching Monroe lurch in that direction, and then crossing over the other way and into an unpatrolled lane. Monroe is often late in jumping out above a screen, meaning his momentum is going too hard the wrong way (toward half court) as the opposing point guard revs up to turn the corner. And when Detroit has asked him to hedge sideways, as in the still below, Monroe often arrives too late to cut off the ball handler:

Hedge

His off-ball defense is similarly unintuitive. Monroe wants to help and has a rudimentary sense of where he should be as the chess pieces move around the floor, but he’s unsure of himself and prone to fatal hesitations and bouts of confusion. He has struggled to develop any chemistry with his big-man partners, so that a lot of Detroit possessions end with late help rotations or both bigs chasing one opposing big man — each under the impression the other would be elsewhere on the floor. Watching film of Detroit’s defense basically amounts to sitting through an hours-long reel of dunks, shrugged shoulders, and inattentive help; only eight teams allowed more shots at the rim last season, and only three allowed opponents to shoot a higher percentage than the ghastly 61.1 percent Detroit allowed.

To use one example of a simple play with which Detroit and Monroe had depressingly chronic issues: Monroe in the below photo (standing at the right edge of the paint) is only just realizing Nicolas Batum, having caught the ball after flying around a Joel Freeland screen and drawing Freeland’s man onto him, is about to hit Freeland for an easy dunk.

Detroit Pistons

Most of Monroe’s issues are common among young big men. Drummond shares some of the same poor habits. But Monroe has three years under his belt, he’s up for a big-money extension, he’s shown very little (if any) improvement as a defender in the NBA, and he lacks Drummond’s motor or athleticism.


Also, he also never shoots outside the paint..You can't have a PF in today's game that can't stretch the offense to create space...He has never attempted a 3 pointer in the NBA..Monroe has made 385 shots inside the paint and 35 shots outside the paint all season..

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4/28/2015  2:02 PM
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crzymdups wrote:If we're still in fantasy land, my pick is still Marc Gasol. Not sure why he's less realistic than Jimmy Butler. Butler is RFA and there is ZERO CHANCE Chicago doesn't match.

Marc Gasol is unrestricted, his brother loved Phil Jackson, his friend Jose Calderon is on the team, Memphis is a small market and that team may have maxed out its potential.

At first I was down on the idea but Gasol is perfect. We need a good vet upfront. I thought Gasol only with Towns and not OK4 as he and OK4 would bump in the post but Gasol might be the perfect mentor for Jah. For starters Gasol's offense is moving further from the basket each year. Jah is a guy with great size and power and learning defense from Gasol is the perfect guy. Gasol won DPOY and is one of the least athletic guys in the league. People like to cling to OK4's Al Jefferson comparison.. well Gasol's was Todd McCullogh.

That FA money is going to go fast and we have a lot of young guys, we will be getting more and will need some quality veteran play and mentoring. Marc seems perfect for that role, but I havent had beers with the guy so who knows

were not getting gasol memphis will max him. if they need to explorea trade later thats what will happen. Even Detroit with Monroe--now that I have thought about it why exactly will Detroit not pay Monroe 5 years 80M? They can simply trade him in 3 months.

what changed between now and the last time they could have made that offer? The cap? Is that your logic?

Briggs.. when it comes to Kanter you have the focus of a labrador staring at the slobbery tenis ball he's just dropped at your feet. Like OKC didnt consider they would have to resign the RFA they just traded for. Please... let it go. He's an RFA. The ONLY song and dance thats going to happen is if/when Kanter rejects an offer and goes to look for an offersheet. You really think OKC just says OK thats too much and walks away? Zero logic my friend. They will match his max and entertain the best offer they can get for one of their 4 big name players. Most likely Westbrook is gone. KD's foot problems keep him around and Ibaka's modest salary keep him around.

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4/28/2015  2:06 PM
fishmike wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
fishmike wrote:
crzymdups wrote:If we're still in fantasy land, my pick is still Marc Gasol. Not sure why he's less realistic than Jimmy Butler. Butler is RFA and there is ZERO CHANCE Chicago doesn't match.

Marc Gasol is unrestricted, his brother loved Phil Jackson, his friend Jose Calderon is on the team, Memphis is a small market and that team may have maxed out its potential.

At first I was down on the idea but Gasol is perfect. We need a good vet upfront. I thought Gasol only with Towns and not OK4 as he and OK4 would bump in the post but Gasol might be the perfect mentor for Jah. For starters Gasol's offense is moving further from the basket each year. Jah is a guy with great size and power and learning defense from Gasol is the perfect guy. Gasol won DPOY and is one of the least athletic guys in the league. People like to cling to OK4's Al Jefferson comparison.. well Gasol's was Todd McCullogh.

That FA money is going to go fast and we have a lot of young guys, we will be getting more and will need some quality veteran play and mentoring. Marc seems perfect for that role, but I havent had beers with the guy so who knows

were not getting gasol memphis will max him. if they need to explorea trade later thats what will happen. Even Detroit with Monroe--now that I have thought about it why exactly will Detroit not pay Monroe 5 years 80M? They can simply trade him in 3 months.

what changed between now and the last time they could have made that offer? The cap? Is that your logic?

Briggs.. when it comes to Kanter you have the focus of a labrador staring at the slobbery tenis ball he's just dropped at your feet. Like OKC didnt consider they would have to resign the RFA they just traded for. Please... let it go. He's an RFA. The ONLY song and dance thats going to happen is if/when Kanter rejects an offer and goes to look for an offersheet. You really think OKC just says OK thats too much and walks away? Zero logic my friend. They will match his max and entertain the best offer they can get for one of their 4 big name players. Most likely Westbrook is gone. KD's foot problems keep him around and Ibaka's modest salary keep him around.

Kanter is going no where--when I truly look at these numbers they are staggering. Match and trade down the line--NO one is NOT matching.

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