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mreinman
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4/23/2015  4:43 PM
callmened wrote:i love this kanter conversation! lol

sam presti is one of the best evaluators of talent in the NBA. He currently has Kanter. so that means one of two things:

1. if he's good, then OKC will keep him (and yes they can afford him)
2. if he's NOT good, then he will be available.

I like Kanter's offensive ability but his defense was horrible. If presti lets this guy go, that should throw up red flags

well said

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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4/23/2015  5:19 PM
mreinman wrote:
callmened wrote:i love this kanter conversation! lol

sam presti is one of the best evaluators of talent in the NBA. He currently has Kanter. so that means one of two things:

1. if he's good, then OKC will keep him (and yes they can afford him)
2. if he's NOT good, then he will be available.

I like Kanter's offensive ability but his defense was horrible. If presti lets this guy go, that should throw up red flags

well said


Seems to me that there might be a third option having to do with how much he's willing to invest in Kanter regardless of how good he thinks he could be. It's possible that Presti has a cap value on Kanter for his roster given OKC's cap situation. Will Presti go over that value or push over the cap for next year and just absorb any penalty? Would a poison pill contract make Kanter too costly for Presti to touch? 2015-16: Cap 67.1 Million, luxury tax 81.6 Million.


                   2014/15	  2015/16	 2016/17	
Kevin Durant	   $19,997,513	  $21,221,850	 $0	
Russell Westbrook  $15,719,062	  $16,744,218	 $17,769,374
Serge Ibaka	   $12,250,000	  $12,250,000	 $12,250,000	
Enes Kanter	   $6,008,106	  $7,882,663	 $0	
Dion Waiters	   $4,062,000	  $5,138,430	 $6,777,589
Steve Novak	   $3,445,947	  $3,750,000	 $0	
Anthony Morrow	   $3,200,000	  $3,344,000	 $3,488,000
DJ Augustin	   $3,000,000	  $3,000,000	 $0	
Nick Collison	   $2,242,003	  $0	         $0	
Jeremy Lamb	   $2,202,000	  $3,034,356	 $4,175,273
Steven Adams	   $2,184,960	  $2,279,040	 $3,140,517
Mitch McGary	   $1,400,040	  $1,463,040	 $1,526,040
Sebastian Telfair  $1,316,809	  $0	         $0	
Andre Roberson	   $1,210,800	  $2,183,072	 $3,222,215
Perry Jones	   $1,129,200	  $2,038,206	 $3,036,926
Kyle Singler	   $1,090,000	  $0	         $0	
TOTALS:	           $80,458,440	  $76,446,212	 $30,019,374
        
http://hoopshype.com/salaries/oklahoma_city.htm#sthash.buBvwWaq.dpuf
callmened
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4/23/2015  5:41 PM
sounds like kanter is willing to accept less just to be around the team. he LOVES OKC. and unlike Harden, presti is willing to pay the lux tax (go figure...smh)
Knicks should be improved: win about 40 games and maybe sneak into the playoffs. Melo, Rose and even Noah will have some nice moments however this team should be about PORZINGUS. the sooner they make him the primary player, the better
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4/23/2015  9:59 PM
mreinman wrote:Amare worked many summers on defense.

He was Mr Summer

Lmfao.....this kid is younger and has a hunger to get better; he deserves a chance to prove such

Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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4/23/2015  10:22 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/23/2015  10:27 PM
callmened wrote:i love this kanter conversation! lol

sam presti is one of the best evaluators of talent in the NBA. He currently has Kanter. so that means one of two things:

1. if he's good, then OKC will keep him (and yes they can afford him)
2. if he's NOT good, then he will be available.

I like Kanter's offensive ability but his defense was horrible. If presti lets this guy go, that should throw up red flags

There was only 1 reason why they had that PR--they don't want other teams to bid up. This is an easy max player--not a penny less. Its pretty simple too--the contract comes at a 40%+ discount. Its worth spending 5 grand on PR to shout out we are going to keep him because it puts substantial pressure on their finances going 4ward even with the increased cap. How many guys have had PR about their contracts this year? Jimmy Butler Krhis Middelton and Enes Kanter--all from cheap teams who would like to save a little. Its pretty simple Enes is worth every dime of a max contract because a new max contract will be what Melo makes Paying him 16mm is really paying him around 9.5mm. With Kanter hes on a team in a strange financial situation and putting in stipulations like a 10mm trade kicker and NO trade clause becomes material. This stuff that Sam Presti will think hes good to 13mm and not 166mm is just jack sht stupid. He doesn't want to pay the max simply because OKC is in the tax zone and than two years from now hes going to have to pay Westbrook and Durant 25-30mm each. If you put a no trade clause--that becomes a problem. Anyone who is worrying about what we pay--don't. The contracts are significantly discounted. We want a guy like Kanter--why lets see what happens when 31 teams have maximum capo space all at the same time. It will be hard to get secondary free agents on the market.

If we have a summer marked by being cheap and thinking well this player might not develop the defense we might want to play here---then you will lose. Kanter in the east guarantees playoffs.

If you get 3 guys who can score 20 points each on any given night--you are going to the ECF with the proper additional balance pieces. No reason why we cant have a DEEP talented balanced team in short order if we execute right.

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4/23/2015  11:00 PM
Chicago wins because their bigs play more defense than offense..
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4/24/2015  12:59 AM
I guess we will see this summer how much kanter gets paid
Knicks should be improved: win about 40 games and maybe sneak into the playoffs. Melo, Rose and even Noah will have some nice moments however this team should be about PORZINGUS. the sooner they make him the primary player, the better
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4/24/2015  1:41 AM
Briggs, we cannot give a no trade clause to Kanter, in order to do so he must either be in the team for 4years though not sure if Bird Rights inherit it

There is no way Kanter is leaving OKC while playing for a contender and STUD PG that makes isn't allowed to focus on him while having BIGS do all the dirty work
Presti and Kanter will meet in the middle, where Harden was unwilling to meet as he wanted a MAX, it will just be either a shorter term contract or a longer term contract
OKC traded a pick for him and Kanter has enjoyed the ride in OKC and will continue to seize his opportunity to build up STATS for a future contract with a team that FITS him


Whether it is 12m 3year or 40m 3year, maybe player option/team option, with less years Kanter will stay and enjoy playing for a team that cannot focus on him regardless...
OKC cannot give Durant another reason to doubt management while Kanter has put up great numbers for them, it just isn't happening
Their payroll is NOTHING like GS, which is why Draymond Green has a better shot in signing a contract whether it is to Detroit or NYK's...

They could match but if they do, they likely will trade and find cheaper replaceaments on their roster, with Lee, maybe Speights and others as well..
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