Sangfroid wrote:

I want to develop a player in NY. With the #1 pick in the 2015 NBA draft, the NY Knicks select KARL ANTHONY TOWNS.

I understand the sentiment of growing your own, but as stated earlier, the Knicks have only had two all-stars in thirty years. Better to take the 24 year old Cousins and let him romp in the Garden for the foreseeable future.

I think that is the wrong analysis. You give up the benefit of a rookie scale contract player that will project to be a max player and you give up salary cap space too. You would have to determine that Boogie is better than BOTH your ROOKIE and your MAX FA in order to make that decision. There are only a few players out there that are worth that analysis -- Anthony Davis, Lebron, Steph Curry, Westbrook -- I am not sure that Boogie crosses that threshold. I voted no.

TripleThreat wrote:

Would you trade our pick for Cousins?

If Sacto was willing to trade Demarcus Cousins for a SINGLE top four first round draft pick in this upcoming draft, I would run, not walk, to say Yes to that deal.

It would be the Knicks trade raping the Kings to the proportion of every Knicks player since 1970 running a train on Vivek Ranadive's daughter and then Vivek himself works the scene a a towel boy and makes sandwiches for everyone afterwards.

It baffles me to the core to hear some of the trade scenarios that many of you will say Yes to, but again, that many of you will say No to, it's just truly baffling.

A young All Star pivot entering his prime years. Though if a deal like that went down, the league would openly investigate both teams ( because it would be so horribly lopsided in favor of the Knicks), Sacto would lose 90 percent of it's season ticket holders and I think Boston and Philly and Phoenix would openly revolt ( they all could offer better packages for Cousins)

98 percent of the time, you don't trade a lottery pick. This would be one of those rare cases in that vaunted 2 percent where you pull the trigger and never look back.

In the soft serve weakened Eastern Conference, Cousins could drag this Knicks team to the 5th seed by himself. The added bonus of a Cousins, though it would never happen in real life, is that Melo would freak out when Cousins would become the New King of Basketball in NY. But unlike Pringles, Chandler and Lin, Melo and Leon Rose won't be able to drive him out of town. Then Melo would demand a trade to the Lakers.

Not saying Cousin's isn't worth it but you use your on theories when you want to prove your point but ignore it when you want to
it baffles me how you suggestted that players NBA players are in physical decline from age 24-26, therefore could be overpayed in contracts after

I think we all can agree Cousins is better than the draft pick alone but in all fairness
It is the 2015 draft pick + cap space (even if King's were willing to trade Cousin's for the draft pick alone)

vs

Cousins

I said I want Draymond Green for the MAX and you said, accoriding to your studdies that he could be overpaid and in decline in the length of his contract

Then you go as far as to suggest Paul Pierce is better suited for such a role

I am sorry Paul Pierce didn't win crap before his decline, according to "your theory" of declines after the age of 24-26
It was KG who changed the dynamic of that Boston team and elevated/achored their DEFENSE along with many very good defenders and the addition of Ray Allen
They were contenders for a good 6years till their physical declines, after the age of 30 +

"BIG 3"
KG
Paul Pierce
Ray Allen

"Big 5"
Add in Rajon Rhondo and a young Perkins with KG

Very good defenders both 1v1 and TEAM, rebounders and solid role players with KG and Perkins achoring their defense especially KG who was way passed 26 with a DEEP BENCH...
Tony Allen
James Posey

Rajon Rhondo *at the time, till they drafted Avery Bradley came over to play that role"

Perkins/Glen Davis

Along those years of being competitive....
They had many other veterans and players in and out like

Delonte West
Rasheed Wallace/Jermaine Oneil/Shaq/THE BIG from Net's
Jeff Green

So troll on, post just to look to argue and bash another poster here without EVER giving an answer on what and how you would go about FA and talents

Paul Pierce
SMH

Bonn1997 wrote:

BigRedDog wrote:Really this is a ridiculous poll at this time. We need to know where we are picking to decide if we want to trade it. Ask again May 19th.

If we're talking about trading for Cousins, then I don't need to know where our pick is to answer the question!

Sorry but big difference if I know Im drafting 1 or 2 and getting either Towns or OK4.

BigRedDog wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

BigRedDog wrote:Really this is a ridiculous poll at this time. We need to know where we are picking to decide if we want to trade it. Ask again May 19th.

If we're talking about trading for Cousins, then I don't need to know where our pick is to answer the question!

Sorry but big difference if I know Im drafting 1 or 2 and getting either Towns or OK4.

BRIGGS wrote:Id rather have the combination of drafting Towns and signing Kanter. The combination asset would be MUCH stronger than Cousins himself(who would take up the same asset allocation) Id rather have 12 players with ten toes in. With Cousins and Anthony --its just a disaster that will end up a cluster fck.

A team is TIED to his extraordinary usage. When he goes bad for a month and he has every year in his career--such as February this year--Sacto went 4-16.

Let me use this name

Bob Macadoo. Is Demarcus Cousins and Carmelo Anthony a modern version of Bob Macadoo and Spencer haywood----YES. And Demarcus is not as good as the Bg Mac!

Where would you rank Brook Lopez?
Personally, I have Brook Lopez >>> Kanter
It is very possible that he can opt out or gamble on next year?
Though if he has a GREAT playoffs, a team could secure him this year or he can choose another team other than BKLYN so ISO Joe can go ISO all he wants...

I also believe there will be another Amnesty Provision to use after the 2017 Season, a reason why I do not want to stretch Calderon if it isn't really needed
We cannot trade a contract if it is stretched and unless we have a combination of talents that already is in placed that is worth doing so, then do it, but do blindly stretch Calderon and hope we can utlize the cap space with signifance is just bad business...