EwingsGlass wrote:

fishmike wrote:

holfresh wrote:The fact that these guys continually makes these types of comments when they are under contract and playing for another team only tells you its a pump and dump strategy...They are just trying to inflate their own value..If someone really wanted to play at the Garden they wouldn't say it unless they are forcing a trade...They risk their own fans riding them for the remainder of their deal...But Knick fans fall for this all the time...

I think its honest.. I mean tons of guys love playing in the garden. Not all of them would want to live and play here. I think other guys would like to, but it doesnt work out for one reason or another.

I think most players who make that statement have not had a chance to speak with their accountants when they talk to the media. By the time free agency comes around, they realize what the incidence of NYS and NYC tax will do to their salaries.

I would support an initiative by the NBA to allow adjustment for player's income tax outside the confines of the salary cap (i.e. the Knicks should be able to offset state income tax so that the actual salary of a player in Miami matches the salary of a player in NY - after taxes). Even then, a player's marketing dollars are reduced by NYS and NYC taxes.

fishmike wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:

fishmike wrote:

holfresh wrote:The fact that these guys continually makes these types of comments when they are under contract and playing for another team only tells you its a pump and dump strategy...They are just trying to inflate their own value..If someone really wanted to play at the Garden they wouldn't say it unless they are forcing a trade...They risk their own fans riding them for the remainder of their deal...But Knick fans fall for this all the time...

I think its honest.. I mean tons of guys love playing in the garden. Not all of them would want to live and play here. I think other guys would like to, but it doesnt work out for one reason or another.

I think most players who make that statement have not had a chance to speak with their accountants when they talk to the media. By the time free agency comes around, they realize what the incidence of NYS and NYC tax will do to their salaries.

I would support an initiative by the NBA to allow adjustment for player's income tax outside the confines of the salary cap (i.e. the Knicks should be able to offset state income tax so that the actual salary of a player in Miami matches the salary of a player in NY - after taxes). Even then, a player's marketing dollars are reduced by NYS and NYC taxes.

Ive worked in NYC for 15 years.. but I live in NJ. I dont think this is a big issue for these guys.

Fish, your situation is not exactly comparable. Compare with Florida which has no state income tax. Our offer of $15MM to a 5 year max player is closer to $13.2MM where Miami has the full $15MM.

EwingsGlass wrote:

fishmike wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:

fishmike wrote:

holfresh wrote:The fact that these guys continually makes these types of comments when they are under contract and playing for another team only tells you its a pump and dump strategy...They are just trying to inflate their own value..If someone really wanted to play at the Garden they wouldn't say it unless they are forcing a trade...They risk their own fans riding them for the remainder of their deal...But Knick fans fall for this all the time...

I think its honest.. I mean tons of guys love playing in the garden. Not all of them would want to live and play here. I think other guys would like to, but it doesnt work out for one reason or another.

I think most players who make that statement have not had a chance to speak with their accountants when they talk to the media. By the time free agency comes around, they realize what the incidence of NYS and NYC tax will do to their salaries.

I would support an initiative by the NBA to allow adjustment for player's income tax outside the confines of the salary cap (i.e. the Knicks should be able to offset state income tax so that the actual salary of a player in Miami matches the salary of a player in NY - after taxes). Even then, a player's marketing dollars are reduced by NYS and NYC taxes.

Ive worked in NYC for 15 years.. but I live in NJ. I dont think this is a big issue for these guys.

Fish, your situation is not exactly comparable. Compare with Florida which has no state income tax. Our offer of $15MM to a 5 year max player is closer to $13.2MM where Miami has the full $15MM.

Also the simple fact is there are more financial opportunities in this area. Look at elite property values. They hold here. Nobody shortsells luxury places around here, I just dont think it matters... not much at least.