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tj23
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4/14/2015  2:15 PM
Pretty sure 3rd worst record has won more than any other pre lottery position, by a good margin too. Maybe that's our reason for winning haha
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4/14/2015  2:31 PM
tj23 wrote:Pretty sure 3rd worst record has won more than any other pre lottery position, by a good margin too. Maybe that's our reason for winning haha

Knicks had the third worst record when they got Ewing in 85.

The one I always think about - the Celtics absolutely tanked the hell out of the 96-97 season and had the worst record by a mile to try to get Tim Duncan. The Spurs had the third worst record due to David Robinson missing the season with injury. Spurs won the lottery and got Duncan and history. Boston got the third pick and Chauncey Billups, who they gave up on after two seasons.

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4/14/2015  2:33 PM
That's why I hope philly finishes 2nd and we finish 3rd
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4/14/2015  2:43 PM
nixluva wrote:
Vmart wrote:
nixluva wrote:Let's be honest, the only thing that matters is the lottery itself. We can't control it and never could. It as always going to be based on pure chance. We were never guaranteed anything.
We can't worry about Minnesota. All we can do is hope that we get a good player in the draft to go along with our returning players and whoever we get in Free Agency. This is a good draft to have a pick period.

It was the chance to be awarded the 4th pick which was important. After that it was all gravy.


That was the hope, but in truth we could still end up with the #1 pick. It's pure luck.

Pure Luck?

Its not "pure" luck. Its based on statistical probabilities.

Is hitting a flush pure luck? No, its probabilities with a weighted luck factor.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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4/14/2015  4:54 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/14/2015  4:55 PM
nixluva wrote:
DJMUSIC wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:How many times has the 3rd team won the lottery in span? If it's more than 2nd then I'm rooting for us to win and philly lose so we finish 3rd



Let's be blunt

Derek Fisher is an Ass, a huge Zero! of course you don't need to say u trying to tank games a..same as no reason to boost
Your weak ego and team guys in public media for praises of them trying to win out. what a fool !

Mr Arrogant coach of knickerbockers a..just talks a tad to flipping much, not on court for coaching
While then had few times of Carmelo A., then Shumpert and JR. Smith on court at same times.
His weak behind still could not be vocal enough to get ny to beat few weak clubs on games at Nyk home court.

His lame behind hasn't really ever coached one minute in 2015 year. Finally last 2 games he got vocal
On TV sets to point of nearly getting technical foul in both Orlando and Atlanta games.
Why .???????????????

The fart Fisher chronicles

Start and this m..thr fu,..cka stated we have players and our team Don't come out
To throw game, his Ass is sure to be goner next 2015/2016 start

Fisher early last midweek gives spiel that his KNICKERBOCKERS will ,can win 60 plus games next 2015/2016 season.

I can't stand fisher it aint cause of his bad roster,
It is cause all of his way to stick his Lakers finger at newyorkers ,,,cause he just dont freaking get it here
What true blue nyk fans has endured in NBA ridicule.

I am also happy to say this coach as_s, will not benefit from a summer of drafts free agents and
Better roster next yr., cause he flat out can't coach and wont develop into one in NYC knickerbocker land.
Thus Phil J, saying in media 'forget triangle offense ' for now until the players ,roster upgrades is
Indication how much faith Phil J will have in Derek Fisher.. in promoting n improving our knickerbockers team.

Glad Fisher you paved your way outta here in about November , December 2015.
When knickerbockers improved roster falters Derek Fisher will be gone with the wind .

FISHER Falters in big process picture of short term nyk fortunes in NBA June 2015 draft.
Since coach can care less bout the draft process, I could care less when he is replaced....

Horrible nyk 2 wins ......sick
Coach is proud of 2 team wins and we're Screwed !!!!badly by Lowy Timberwolves again in line for another first round draft pick
For 100th time.

You know there is so much Bull Crap tossed at Fisher and to be honest all I see is a group of players that are still playing hard for him. They have shown that they really do understand the system and what he wants them to do. The new culture is being established even now. They actually have been defending well and giving max effort. That is worth a heck of a lot more than people are giving him credit for. A lot of these players will be back next year and they already have the right mental approach to the game that they'll need when the roster is upgraded next year.

Galloway has been developing nicely. Larkin has grown. Even THJ, Acy and Early have shown signs of life. Those are important factors since we need young cheap players who we know can thrive in this system. It's unfortunate that it cost us a higher lottery position but the team playing better isn't completely a bad thing. I would've accepted a close loss, but the Hawks underestimated the Knicks and they lost.

On top of all that we just don't know what pick we'll get. Nothing is guaranteed.


There's 2 main reason the knicks have looked a little better 1) the rotation is now 10 instead of 14, and 2)were taking 8 to 10 more FT's a game. Players are a little more comfortable in their roles.

I don't like Fisher as the knicks coach because he's too in experience, and i just don't see him as a guy who can make the proper substitutions and adjustments in the clutch. Thats not to say he can't be that guy, but I'm not sure when that will happen.

I haven't really watched more than 5 minutes of each of the last 40 or 50 games, I have been looking at the stat sheet and noticing the rotations have been shorter.

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4/14/2015  7:25 PM
That team needs Okafor..
Pg- Lavine
SG- Wiggins
SF-? Get a good defensive player
PF-Okafor
C Dieng
If Okafor turns out to be THAT player, then you got one hell of a team.
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4/14/2015  7:40 PM
TPercy wrote:That team needs Okafor..
Pg- Lavine
SG- Wiggins
SF-? Get a good defensive player
PF-Okafor
C Dieng
If Okafor turns out to be THAT player, then you got one hell of a team.

And once again...this would be a very limited team offensively, with virtually no inside/outside balance. You would have to hope that Wiggins becomes a jump shooter all of a sudden and they find a great shooter at SF. I tend to think they would look to sign a good shooting 2, and let Wiggins stay at 3.

EnySpree: Can we agree to agree not to mention Phil Jackson and triangle for the rest of our lives?
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4/14/2015  7:43 PM
Whats Kevin Martin doing these days?
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4/14/2015  10:26 PM
gunsnewing wrote:Whats Kevin Martin doing these days?

Has an illness also known as the "tankinflu," which caused him to miss a recent game.

EnySpree: Can we agree to agree not to mention Phil Jackson and triangle for the rest of our lives?
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4/14/2015  11:26 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/14/2015  11:29 PM
Zach lavine is going to be the next nba super mega star. I think okafor would be a nice get for them withd dieng at c. They have to dump Rubio Martin and perovic find role player w good depth
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4/14/2015  11:27 PM
WaltLongmire wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Towns can be a stretch 4 at times. Check out the scouting report on him

I know he has some shooting ability, and maybe even the range to hit a 3, but is that really where you would want him playing? As an opponent I would love to have him standing out deep chucking up 3s... in fact I would encourage him to do so.

I disagree with some folks around here- I see Towns as a center, even if it takes a few years, and that is where I would want him playing on the Knicks.


I just think that the starting 5 they would have with Towns (even with the Pekovic/Dieng substitution), assuming it is the one you listed, would be a bit clunky on the offensive end.


Walt he could play 5
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4/15/2015  12:10 AM
BRIGGS wrote:Zach lavine is going to be the next nba super mega star. I think okafor would be a nice get for them withd dieng at c. They have to dump Rubio Martin and perovic find role player w good depth

wow!

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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