BRIGGS wrote:

VCoug wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

VCoug wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:to grab Hezonja and Kaminsky. In round #2 targets Dez Wells Joe Young

Free agent target Enes Kanter full max

Main trade target--Walter Taveras C Atlanta possession from 2nd round last year. I would be willing to give up a 2018 #1 pick(top 5 protected) to get them an additional #1 this year in a swap. Secondary is Christian Wood 7-0 C/PF from UNLV draft eligible.

Can anyone make that happen for me:)

As far as I know, the only team that we could trade down with to get two lottery picks is Philly. And that's only if they receive LA's top 5 protected pick this year. Why is Philly trading two lottery picks for one lottery pick?

Depends what their needs are.

Are their needs fundamentally different from our needs? If it's a good idea for us to trade down for two lottery picks why is it a good idea for them to trade up for one?

Depends on their needs.

Well what are their needs? If you look at their roster it certainly seems like their needs are in the backcourt not the front court where they already have Noel and Embiid. But, the top 2 picks in this draft are almost certainly going to be Okafor and Towns in some order. Why are they trading away some combination of Russell, Mudiay, Hezonga, etc for one big man?

Feel like this is a good draft to just take a shot at a few guys and hopefully come out with 2 future all-stars.....we would never do it but it would set us up so nicely for the future and we would still have the cap space to get creative in finding ways to become competitive quickly in the East.

oh and Phil is not stupid

gunsnewing wrote:I rather draft one Towns or OK4 and have him be a bust. Then trade down to 8 & 27 and draft the next Jordan Hill or Nikola Tskitvili and Chris Singleton. At least a top level bust will have some trade value and at least the franchise will make money off the pick.

oh and Phil is not stupid

I would hope trading down to the bottom of the lottery plus a late 1st rounder is off the table. That would be crazy! It's the type of trade where I would no longer be a Knicks fan.

VCoug wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:I rather draft one Towns or OK4 and have him be a bust. Then trade down to 8 & 27 and draft the next Jordan Hill or Nikola Tskitvili and Chris Singleton. At least a top level bust will have some trade value and at least the franchise will make money off the pick.

oh and Phil is not stupid

I would hope trading down to the bottom of the lottery plus a late 1st rounder is off the table. That would be crazy! It's the type of trade where I would no longer be a Knicks fan.

I would consider Hezonga and kaminsky both top 8 talents that would just be taken a tad lower. Bust potential=0, upside is two all stars.

BRIGGS wrote:

holfresh wrote:Every team that has won an NBA Championship in the last 30+ years has had an elite defender or two on their frontline..Phil know this, Why would he put Kanter next to Kaminsky as a frontline? Two well below average defenders..

If we had Kaminsky Taveras/Wood kanter we would have one of the best frontline's in basketball for 10 years. Ive said it all year--Ive never changed my theory----aggression in this draft go big round 1 go guards round 2. In this case I think Hezonga is special--in fact I can see reasons why hed go #1. But he wont and thats where Im hitting if I can. Smart players playing together--they usually play dam good D as a unit.

If Phil trades down pick for Kaminsky then he would be run out of town before December..

Would offer Kawaii Leanard a MAX salary day 1 of FA if he is willing to sign it, as well as Draymond Green ONLY if we have a trade for CA with him agreeing to it to the the West like Houston or Lakers for their TOP pick and for their younger players DMO/Terrence Jones, and multiple draft picks for Houston

in no order

A drafts, if we can get 2 of these
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Justice Winslow
Russell
Mario Henzio

B
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Kaminski
Willie Stein

C
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too many late and 2nd rounders to list

UFA offer a 4year 40m ish contract to Ajincia, I believe his upside is close to Towns

Save enough for 1-2 LARGE/MAX salaries in 2017 with the rise of the cap of 20m or 1 huge salary and a couple of solid pickups like Battum/Wilson Chandler

Whiteside
Durant
Pau Gasol
Al Horford

gunsnewing wrote:

nixluva wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:There's also the potential of drafting another Frye, Gallinari or Jordan Hill

I don't think this is that kind of draft. It's a deeper draft with some good talent at the top. I think there's less potential for picking a player that is a bust or mediocre. Just looking at the top 20 prospects you can see some good talent in there. Some will flop but I think a lot of them will be pretty good NBA players.

 1  Karl Towns	
 2  Jahlil Okafor	
 3  Emmanuel Mudiay	
 4  D'Angelo Russell	
 5  Justise Winslow	
 6  Willie Cauley-Stein	
 7  Mario Hezonja	
 8  Kristaps Porzingis	
 9  Stanley Johnson	
 10 Frank Kaminsky	
 11 Jakob Poeltl	
 12 Myles Turner	
 13 Sam Dekker	
 14 Kelly Oubre	
 15 Kris Dunn	
 16 Jerian Grant
 17 Devin Booker
 18 Bobby Portis
 19 Trey Lyles	
 20 Kevon Looney

Winslow, Hezonja, Porzingis & Johnson will be lucky to have the careers that Frye, Gallo & Hill have had

Perhaps that's a bit harsh. That's a terrible thing to say about those prospects. I think you're opinion of these guys is pretty low. Gallo had the highest upside of the 3. Frye is a decent role player and Hill has at the least found a role for himself even if it's nothing special. I think this draft has the potential for a bit more from kids like Winslow, Hezonja and Porzingis. It'll be interesting to see how they turn out.