Uptown wrote:Vmart wrote:Uptown wrote:Vmart wrote:Uptown wrote:Vmart wrote:Knicks1969 wrote:Vmart wrote:I think you are making a big deal out of nothing. WCS is not a top four pick he is middle of the pack first round pick at best. Everybody knows this he is offensively challenged like Chandler.
This dude can dominate on defense. With a creative PG like Russell, he can also be effective on offense; because he runs the floor extremely well and can finish above the rim. He is a decent passer; thus, can play the role of Noah in the triangle.
You want to walk out of this draft with nothing. Russell and WCS two of the weaker selections in the draft. Two players that were shut down on the offense very easily. I wouldn't select either until the 8th pick or later.
Cant disagree with you more. I think Russell and Ok4 are the safest picks in terms of longevity in the league and having an immediate impact. When was Russell shut down? Are you talking 1 game? Russells numbers all year are ver impressive. Hes an exceptional passer and has one of the purest strokes entering the draft since Steph curry.
I like Russell but just not top 4. He doesn't have the athleticism that translate to be a top 4 pick.
Steph Curry is not an elite athlete by any stretch. Brandon Roy wasn't a high flyer either but was one the top players to come out of his draft and would still be a perennial allstar today if not for injury. Take a look at James Harden's scouting report when he entered the draft. NBAdraft.net described his athleticism as marginal.
I see alot of Harden and Roy in Russell's game. BTW, what 4 players are you taking before Russell?
I'm taking
Okafor
Towns
Mudiay
Winslow
Kaminsky
Johnson
Prozingis
Hezonja
Russell
Towns and Mudiay for me is a toss up.
Difficult for me to give an honest evaluation of guys I've only seen in highlights and clips against competition that I'm not familiar with. Never seen any of those guys play in full games...Of the ones that I have seen numerous times, only Towns and Ok4 merit being picked before Russell IMO. Russell impacts the game at a greater rate than Johnson. Kaminsky, I think can be a good player, but has more question marks to the way his game will translate at the next level than Russell does, IMO. I love Winslows game. A clear two-way player who can impact the game similar to Butler, but he needs to evolve his game like Butler has done over his short career. For me, Russell is the 3rd pick, but depending on team and needs, I can see Winslow jumping ahead of him.
What is it about Mudiay's game that you like more that Russell? From the clips that I have seen, his jumper is very weak and I haven't seen the John Wall like explosion that scouts have tagged on him.
Mudiay has the potential to be a superstar. If you watch him play they have the CBA games on YouTube. If you do get a chance to watch him forget that he is in China and watch him. His speed is noticeable. People are holding going to China against him. He was the number one recruit in the nation. He was being recruited by Calipari and Brown. He was ahead of Okafor and Towns as a recruit.
Mudiay has size and still growing according to reports. Mudiay attacks the basket full speed he is a finisher. While Russell has a sweet stroke he doesn't attack the basket full speed his finishing ability isn't strong. If you watched him you will see that he never leads a full fast break his speed isn't evident. He rarely breaks a teams apart with his dribble. Mudiay on the other hand puts defenses on the edge and still manages to get into the defense at will.
People have been saying Mudiay can't shoot he doesn't play defense Mudiay is a decent shooter and will get better. You can get better with shooting but athleticism doesn't change much. That is why Mudiay to me is the better choice. His skill translate to triangle better as his size allows him to play SG which would be something Phil's system always needed a slasher with finishing ability.
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