TripleThreat wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

TripleThreat wrote:
Key to note, I do not dislike Kobe Bryant because hes black, I dislike him because he's a shotjacking narcissist rapist who throws his teammates under the bus. I do not dislike Ray Lewis because he's black, I dislike him because he's a hypocrite and a murderer. I do not dislike Stephen Jackson because he's black. I dislike him because he tarnished the game with one of the most pathetic and tragic displays in NBA history, in sports history period, and critically damaged in image of the game where shockwaves and changes still factor in today because of that incident.

How about you look at these guys as individuals....

[Sarcasm directed towards your liberal agenda and that you don't have the balls to just come out and say you just plain don't like me on this community]Yep, that's right, clearly right there above, I did not distinctively look at them as individual pieces of scum. Yep, right there, I gave no specific reason outside of their race why they would be disliked and why I would dislike them. Yep, you are right and I am wrong. Clearly. [/Sarcasm directed towards your liberal agenda and that you don't have the balls to just come out and say you just plain don't like me on this community]

If there's one thing young black men are taught by experience is that whenever you do something that should get you punched in the face for merit, you can always safely hide behind the race card and minimize the actual damage. Just say people hate you because you are black, instead of the fact that you might just be a worthless POS ( Stephen Jackson for one) or a rapist ( Kobe Bryant) or a murderer ( Ray Lewis) or number of total jackoffs out there who happen to be good at jamming a ball through a little hoop or running fast across a field.

I won't deny there is racism and bigotry in professional sports, but it doesn't always spin the way people think it does.
Shaquille O'Neal went on live radio and during an interview, mocked Yao Ming in "chinese speak" for committing the heinous crime of getting more All Star votes than him.
Length of suspension? Zero games
Amount of fine? Zero dollars.
League sanction? None.
And if Yao Ming decided to mock Shaq by talking Ebonics? Or telling him to relax before he drops deal of hypertension? Yeah, I doubt the response by the league and the other players and such and the mass media would be the same.
But you never hear the black liberal contingent who are "Damn Donald Sterling!" camp ever point out anything else that might be racist or bigoted otherwise.
Jason Williams mocking Asians in Sacramento? Yeah, who cares about that, did you see the Heat making a Travvon Martin tribute team photo together!
Chris Paul saying he'd rather play for a black coach? Why bother with that right, we should talk about the dress code and how it's racist! Racist!
Kobe Bryant and Joaquim Noah both screaming out anti gay slurs on the court, caught on camera? Sure, they got fined, but why talk about that anymore, let's make sure we take this billion dollar franchise away from a guy who was illegally taped. ( Just because Donald Sterling was/is a jerk and a racist doesn't mean he has no rights to speech and to property ownership of a NBA franchise)
Have the balls to say you just don't like me. Have the balls to admit that , as much as there is racism and bigotry in pro sports, that there are also some clear double standards, that given certain circumstances and scenarios, will disproportionately favor blacks over non blacks.
And as it goes back to LBJ and Melo, I still think they are both crappy leaders. They both have done and said enough stupid things where I just am not buying into this LBJ is so inspiring narrative. I think it's fluff PR and media spin control and marketing to make sure nothing rock the politically correct revenue train. And I think if there were more black sports journalists and Melo and LBJ were white and there were less crossover conflicts of interests with sponsors and advertisers, I think the press would have unloaded on them and torn them apart more for being crappy leaders and all the other things they've done.
Because I think Charles Barkley is in a more secure position because he's black versus white, to just say LBJ and The Decision was just plain stupid and not some form of racism in the backlash, I don't think that makes me racist. You might disagree, although I'm starting to get the feeling that to you, You Are A Racist = Why Don't You Think Like Me, Huh?

I don't see what ANY of this has to do with what we were discussing. Clearly you have some things that annoy you when it comes to how black NBA players go about things and you're using this topic to somehow let it all out. You make good points but I'm not going into them since you can't bring yourself to even respond to my question when it came to Lin using the race card.

As for your repeated requests for me to say I don't like you: if I were to say that, I would be lying. I disagree with you often but that's part of debating.

Yet, Mr. Love is bailing out.

Yet, I don't think there's a Kyrie-type player anywhere near the Knicks these days, is there?

Of course none of this should factor in, since Melo makes no one better. Ever.
54 wins was JKidd and Rashweed and one game from KrazyEyes.

You people are fuhucking unbelieveable.

BRIGGS wrote:

jrodmc wrote:Yes, LBJ all alone makes an ex-SMOTY a better person, a better baller and a stellar citizen.

Yet, Mr. Love is bailing out.

Yet, I don't think there's a Kyrie-type player anywhere near the Knicks these days, is there?

Of course none of this should factor in, since Melo makes no one better. Ever.
54 wins was JKidd and Rashweed and one game from KrazyEyes.

You people are fuhucking unbelieveable.

Melo is a great individual player but he has never made players around him raise their level of play. I don't think it's up for debate.

Carmelo has played 275 games with the Knicks and we have roughly a .500 record with him--if he played the 2nd half of this year that number wouldve been sub .500. Did the Knicks just not find the right players to play with melo? How much influence did Melo have in shaping the roster. The depletion of assets in the Melo trade itself. It all adds up.

Could this team been .500 for 4-5 years without Melo using the assets elsewhere? Maybe its not a high bar.

So really we can only call our time with melo a fail. Not Melo's fault but he has proven over 5 years to be a player who cant help raise other players levels of play and our record is the bottom line.

So, once again, JR being SMOTY was all on him, nothing to do with Melo.
JR being Jesus Rightside on a Cavs team with LBJ, Kyrie and Love is all about Melo's insufficiencies as a leader. Check.
Raising the levels of DWade, Bosh, Kyrie and Love, of course, take maximum leadership skills.
Raising the levels of Fishlips, random 40 year olds, FluTyson, Raygun Felton and Gumby Shump should be easy to do for anyone with a even a shred of leadership.

Yes indeedy, Melo era = fail.

Please tell me all about how great the 275 games before we got Melo were. I love a good story. Almost as much as how we were going to win chips with SuperGallo and InvisiMayor and Moz, the ultimate five year project.

Oh, I forgot, HOF Center Stat was already going to lead us to a chip before we got Melo and he spoiled our bottom line.