yellowboy90 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

holfresh wrote:Monroe numbers doesn't translate to his team making the playoffs with a decent supporting cast..

WHen has he had a decent supporting cast? I don't really like Monroe but I'll at least stick up for him on that.

Drummond, Jennings, Meeks, JSmooth..They should have been a playoff team..

No, no they shouldn't. That's a terrible cast of non-shooters.

You say that now but preseason predictors had them making the playoffs..

holfresh wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

holfresh wrote:Monroe numbers doesn't translate to his team making the playoffs with a decent supporting cast..

WHen has he had a decent supporting cast? I don't really like Monroe but I'll at least stick up for him on that.

Drummond, Jennings, Meeks, JSmooth..They should have been a playoff team..

No, no they shouldn't. That's a terrible cast of non-shooters.

You say that now but preseason predictors had them making the playoffs..

I never understood that.

Kanter seems to be benefiting from playing with Westbrook on a good team, good system

Will be interesting this round as both with face legitimate size
Duke-Utah
Kentucky-Maryland or W. Virginia

newyorknewyork wrote:Butler and Towns would be the dream.

+1

TPercy wrote:This Win Shares stat, can someone summarize how it works? I tried reading it but it was kinda complicated.

It's complicated. I tried to find a reasonably simple explanation minus the technical details.

Corby: Generally, Win Shares is an effort to credit a player's total measurable contribution to his team's win total during the season - in this sense, it isn't shy about being an all-in-one statistic.

For the layperson, it's meant to be conceptually simple - that is, one Win Share should reflect the offensive and defensive contributions of a player that have led to one win during the season.

While the computation is complicated, the importance of its component statistics are well known to any basketball fan. On offense this includes field goals, assists, and free throws - and credit is also given for offensive rebounds that enable point production. On defense, things are a little more vague but the player receives credit for possessions where his team prevents a score and where the player himself contributes a stop. The formula for stops is itself somewhat complicated, but generally a stop is awarded through easily understood events like steals, blocks, and defensive rebounds.

My point here is to emphasize that all of the common counting stats are there, and a player that makes well-rounded contribution on offense and defense will do well in the system. The magic of Win Shares is that the final computation tempers these counting stats by contextual factors that are generally beyond a player's control, and it packages these contributions into an easily understood metric (a contributed "win").

You could try and decipher the Basketball Reference breakdown of Win Shares but it's a beast.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/about/ws.html

gunsnewing wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Kanter Okafor way better. not even close.

Kanter
OK4
Melo

Just about the worst defensive frontline ever assembled

Nope best players available. I can find synergy around them. By the way Kanter and okafor both had 4 blocked shots each today.

OK4 had 3 blocks

and there's more to it than blocking 3 of San Diego's State's shots when their tallest player is 6'8

Towns routinely blocks 2,3, 4 shots a game.

Just wait til Towns next monster game while OK4 continues with his 3-6reb games. Towns playing next to Stein & Johnson

Finestrg wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:by the way Kanter had 0 blocks today

Kanter seems to be benefiting from playing with Westbrook on a good team, good system

Kanter took 20 shots yesterday. Went 12 for 20 from the field.. The better the PG the better for Kanter I suppose, but really any decent enough/able PG (or guards in general) just need to get him the ball and let him go to work. I said that weeks ago when I first started plugging this guy when it was clear as day that Utah wasn't using him properly/enough to maximize...I betcha this guy never took 20 shots in a game in Utah the whole time he was there. It's kindergarten simple with Kanter -- play the man substantial minutes and get him enough shots at the basket. Why? Because he's an excellent offensive player and you want him taking enough shots. You give him those two things, he'll deliver 20/10 almost every night. Case closed.

He did it twice this year for Utah and this is his first in OKC (20 shot games)

mreinman wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:I'd much rather replace Monroe with Millsap

shorter and cheaper contract.

Which would be shorter and cheaper? I think they'll both command a lot of money

Milsap will definitely be shorter and cheaper.

I would say maybe 3-4 @ 10-12 per?

He'll likely get the max- that cap rise has every agent salivating, expect a wave of max contracts, plus maybe a wave of players on 1 or 2 year deals, hoping to cash in after the rise.

BRIGGS wrote:Kanter Okafor way better. not even close.

Is Kanter incapable of passing or does he simply choose not to? Thats the thing that worries me the most (as well as his lack of defense).