blkexec wrote:This is the one time I'm glad I didn't watch the game.....Because I would be drinking the OK4 Koolaid like everybody else. So the first thing I looked at was San Diego's roster.....Pathetic. Looks like Shepard had most of the bigs playing time....I think. He's 6"8 with shoes on.....205 lbs. They have all forwards 6'8 or less....NO CENTERS.
Sorry, but the #1 pick is still up in the air. I want to see OK4 against NBA caliber bigs.

0 Skylar Spencer F 6-10 235 JR Inglewood, CA
2 Kevin Zabo G 6-2 185 FR Gatineau, PQ
3 Angelo Chol F 6-9 225 JR San Diego, CA
4 Dakarai Allen G 6-5 195 SO Elk Grove, CA
5 Dwayne Polee II F 6-7 195 SR Los Angeles, CA
10 Aqeel Quinn G 6-3 200 SR Los Angeles, CA
11 D'Erryl Williams G 6-2 200 SO Sacramento, CA
12 Trey Kell G 6-4 190 FR San Diego, CA
13 Winston Shepard F 6-8 205 JR Houston, TX
14 Zylan Cheatham F 6-7 205 FR Phoenix, AZ
20 J.J. O'Brien F 6-7 220 SR Rancho Cucamonga, CA
21 Malik Pope F 6-8 205 FR Elk Grove, CA
22 Parker U'u G 6-4 210 SO Sacramento, CA
23 Kibret Woldemichael G 5-7 150 SO San Marcos, CA
24 Ryan Staten G 6-2 190 SR San Pablo, CA
24 Ryan Staten G 6-2 190 SR San Pablo, CA
33 Niksha Federico F 6-6 185 SO San Diego, CA
40 Matt Shrigley F 6-6 195 SO San Diego, CA

I watched the game and they were doubling OK4 hard and aggressively most of the game. While it's true that they lacked any bigs who could bang with him, to be honest he's so big and strong that very few college bigs have been able to slow him down. He also moves so well with quickness and agility. He's able to dribble out of doubles as well. Dude is LEGIT.

yellowboy90 wrote:

knickscity wrote:

mreinman wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:Robinson had a higher usg than Duncan is Tim's rookie year. Then the usg started going Duncan way as the years went on. Really though one can argue Robinson was the better player. What Tim allowed Robinson to do is to play less minutes because he could carry the load. Tim came into the league avg near 40 min played a game. That helped him put up more stats but per 36 Robinson was putting up similar and better numbers while being more efficient.

where are you going with this yellow?

Proof that Robinson was still pretty dominant, but he was allowed to play less.

Basically this. Robinson really didn't give the keys over to Duncan like most people think. I am not comparing OK4 to Duncan or Melo to Robinson. Just stating that the the Robinson handing over the keys narrative is a little off.

gunsnewing wrote:

blkexec wrote:This is the one time I'm glad I didn't watch the game.....Because I would be drinking the OK4 Koolaid like everybody else. So the first thing I looked at was San Diego's roster.....Pathetic. Looks like Shepard had most of the bigs playing time....I think. He's 6"8 with shoes on.....205 lbs. They have all forwards 6'8 or less....NO CENTERS.
Sorry, but the #1 pick is still up in the air. I want to see OK4 against NBA caliber bigs.

0 Skylar Spencer F 6-10 235 JR Inglewood, CA
2 Kevin Zabo G 6-2 185 FR Gatineau, PQ
3 Angelo Chol F 6-9 225 JR San Diego, CA
4 Dakarai Allen G 6-5 195 SO Elk Grove, CA
5 Dwayne Polee II F 6-7 195 SR Los Angeles, CA
10 Aqeel Quinn G 6-3 200 SR Los Angeles, CA
11 D'Erryl Williams G 6-2 200 SO Sacramento, CA
12 Trey Kell G 6-4 190 FR San Diego, CA
13 Winston Shepard F 6-8 205 JR Houston, TX
14 Zylan Cheatham F 6-7 205 FR Phoenix, AZ
20 J.J. O'Brien F 6-7 220 SR Rancho Cucamonga, CA
21 Malik Pope F 6-8 205 FR Elk Grove, CA
22 Parker U'u G 6-4 210 SO Sacramento, CA
23 Kibret Woldemichael G 5-7 150 SO San Marcos, CA
24 Ryan Staten G 6-2 190 SR San Pablo, CA
24 Ryan Staten G 6-2 190 SR San Pablo, CA
33 Niksha Federico F 6-6 185 SO San Diego, CA
40 Matt Shrigley F 6-6 195 SO San Diego, CA

I want to see OK4 vs Towns
Duke vs Kentucky

bigger than a tyson fight

that would probably be the most exciting sporting event in a long time (besides for UFC of course)

nixluva wrote:

blkexec wrote:This is the one time I'm glad I didn't watch the game.....Because I would be drinking the OK4 Koolaid like everybody else. So the first thing I looked at was San Diego's roster.....Pathetic. Looks like Shepard had most of the bigs playing time....I think. He's 6"8 with shoes on.....205 lbs. They have all forwards 6'8 or less....NO CENTERS.
Sorry, but the #1 pick is still up in the air. I want to see OK4 against NBA caliber bigs.

0 Skylar Spencer F 6-10 235 JR Inglewood, CA
2 Kevin Zabo G 6-2 185 FR Gatineau, PQ
3 Angelo Chol F 6-9 225 JR San Diego, CA
4 Dakarai Allen G 6-5 195 SO Elk Grove, CA
5 Dwayne Polee II F 6-7 195 SR Los Angeles, CA
10 Aqeel Quinn G 6-3 200 SR Los Angeles, CA
11 D'Erryl Williams G 6-2 200 SO Sacramento, CA
12 Trey Kell G 6-4 190 FR San Diego, CA
13 Winston Shepard F 6-8 205 JR Houston, TX
14 Zylan Cheatham F 6-7 205 FR Phoenix, AZ
20 J.J. O'Brien F 6-7 220 SR Rancho Cucamonga, CA
21 Malik Pope F 6-8 205 FR Elk Grove, CA
22 Parker U'u G 6-4 210 SO Sacramento, CA
23 Kibret Woldemichael G 5-7 150 SO San Marcos, CA
24 Ryan Staten G 6-2 190 SR San Pablo, CA
24 Ryan Staten G 6-2 190 SR San Pablo, CA
33 Niksha Federico F 6-6 185 SO San Diego, CA
40 Matt Shrigley F 6-6 195 SO San Diego, CA

I watched the game and they were doubling OK4 hard and aggressively most of the game. While it's true that they lacked any bigs who could bang with him, to be honest he's so big and strong that very few college bigs have been able to slow him down. He also moves so well with quickness and agility. He's able to dribble out of doubles as well. Dude is LEGIT.

Towns still has the same high ceiling potential on both ends, with better defense.

Russell is Russell....PG / SG.

Any 3 works for me.....Towns is an intriguing prospect. And if OK4 can become a rim protector (Thats a big if) then he's a beast on both ends.

Are we drafting this pick to replace Melo or play with Melo?

Very solid player and worth a trade to get a mid to low first round pick.....Hope him or some of the other freshmens drop, do to the big Euro push we have every year.

Need more Winslows or Stanley Johnson on our team....Less THj and Calderon.

Not 1 team would trade the number 1 pick for Carmelo TAKING AWAY the salary issue NOT 1. This is a franchise pivot player and hes 12 years younger than melo.

Funnier stuff. Okaor is so much more skllis than eddy curry heck he hit mor mi range js today than curry did in his career every see curry dribble out of a double team out to the 3 pt line than break his man down with the dribble to score? Eddy curry was a poor mans Shaquille who had athletic ability and size to dunk anything at the rim. This is a unique player very advanced both physically and skill wise. Really it wouldn't let's see hoe ok can help melo it's the other way around

mreinman wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Forget the salary

Not 1 team would trade the number 1 pick for Carmelo TAKING AWAY the salary issue NOT 1. This is a franchise pivot player and hes 12 years younger than melo.

Funnier stuff. Okaor is so much more skllis than eddy curry heck he hit mor mi range js today than curry did in his career every see curry dribble out of a double team out to the 3 pt line than break his man down with the dribble to score? Eddy curry was a poor mans Shaquille who had athletic ability and size to dunk anything at the rim. This is a unique player very advanced both physically and skill wise. Really it wouldn't let's see hoe ok can help melo it's the other way around

Injured Melo I ask again?

What if you needed 1 guy for the next 3 years (no injuries) at 10 million per? You take Ok4? You think that he is a better player at this point than a healthy Melo?

If each player made 1 dollar id pick okafor100/100 times. In 2 years okafor will be an unstoppable force and melo will be winding down his injury filled last season.

BRIGGS wrote:

mreinman wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Forget the salary

Not 1 team would trade the number 1 pick for Carmelo TAKING AWAY the salary issue NOT 1. This is a franchise pivot player and hes 12 years younger than melo.

Funnier stuff. Okaor is so much more skllis than eddy curry heck he hit mor mi range js today than curry did in his career every see curry dribble out of a double team out to the 3 pt line than break his man down with the dribble to score? Eddy curry was a poor mans Shaquille who had athletic ability and size to dunk anything at the rim. This is a unique player very advanced both physically and skill wise. Really it wouldn't let's see hoe ok can help melo it's the other way around

Injured Melo I ask again?

What if you needed 1 guy for the next 3 years (no injuries) at 10 million per? You take Ok4? You think that he is a better player at this point than a healthy Melo?

If each player made 1 dollar id pick okafor100/100 times. In 2 years okafor will be an unstoppable force and melo will be winding down his injury filled last season.

nixluva wrote:OK4 has amazing agility for a man his size as well as ball skills and touch. He doesn't have natural shot blocking instincts but can actually block shots. He tends to just stand tall rather than go for every shot block.

Amazing agility?? OK4??

TripleThreat wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:How can anyone watching this not believe that okafor is the best player in the nation for his age?

How can anyone reading this thread not fully believe you won't change your mind in about three days. The only thing consistent about you is you desire the latest and greatest thing in your mind. I used to wonder, "Who buys a Chevy truck/Pepsi/Doritos/pet food/time shares/Shake Weights/Chia Pets just because of the commercial?" After a season full of Briggs, now I know.

It's literally like watching a high school girl try to pick out a prom dress.

"No, this one! Uh..no, that one! Or .... that one!"

***

"Listen Billie Jean, you aren't just at the prom, a one time in your life event, you are with the Briggs-ster, which is really being with a one time in your life event on top of said one time in your life event. You get me? You get me right? Now, let's talk turkey. Your virginity in the back seat of my Ford Pacer here, it's really like an expiring contract. So I think since I let you order the prime rib, when I could have just said, take the chicken, baby, I mean, to me, that's a fair trade considering I made a sacrifice earlier. And I won't take one thing less since I'm basically like a first round pick. I mean I know what you are thinking. He's just a high schooler. He can't be epic. Not like the guy in Twilight. But I assure you, I will produce here at a historic rate. Take all high schoolers, all high school seniors, and I will literally hump you like a Hall Of Famer. No learning curve or anything. What? I can't hear you? ( Girl mumbles and tries to scream through the duct tape binding her mouth and the flex cuffs restraining her arms behind her back) Don't worry baby, it's a fair trade. An extremely fair trade. "