smackeddog wrote:

knickscity wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

mreinman wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:I don't know how many people have watched miami bug they also have an undrafted d league guard named tyler Johnson and he's been spectacular in multiple games. Also yanked Henry walker who has helped the team but Johnson really looks really good.Phil is on the clock here. We should be a team making pulls like this all year.We fixated on Galloway and while he's been ok not anywhere near the class of player of Whiteside or Johnson.

He also gave 30 year old Bosh a 5 year max, and is about to give 29 year old Dragic a $20mil a year max, having already given up 2 first rounders for him. The kind of stuff Phil would get killed for.

right. perhaps phil should win us a couple of rings or even games before he gets away with bonehead moves.

Oh come on, if Phil's big moves this offseason were signing Bosh and Dragic to 5year Max contracts, and trading 2 first rounders to do so, you all would be calling for his head. Riley does it and he's a genious.

Riley has had some great moments as a GM, but he doesn't always get it right- Juwan Howard, Brian Grant, etc.

No GM is perfect, but citing a few miscues dont offset the marvelous work he has done. Just wondering though, do you think signing Juwan Howard was a bad move? Dude made min salary to be a locker room presence.

I'm talking about the $100mil contract he signed Howard to back in 1997 (or around then)- got rescued by stern who ruled the contract illegal after the Bullets fans started crying about it.

CrushAlot wrote:

Splat wrote:

skeng wrote:

knickscity wrote:

skeng wrote:I just hope Phil can continue to keep Jimmy D from sticking his sausage fingers in the phucking basketball decisions. To me that's a NYK GM job well done.

You may wanna thank the dude that told Dolan to sign him and keep up with his band. The only reason why Dolan hasnt gotten involved is because he's out to show the Knicks woes arent exclusively because of him. Once Phil fails, you wont be able to blame Dolan for it.

Thats always been his goal from day one, but fans seem to be gaga over a dude thats won in a different facet that they currently are in. Phil cannot cash in the rings for exec experience. Dolan hired Phil to get the fan heat off himself, when actually he should have hired a younger more innovative guy who would have put the Knicks on a real rebuild, not an old guy who doesnt have the time to truly rebuild.

Blame or not, I'm happy with Dolan being involved as little as possible.

The way I see it, we are rebuilding, culturally aswell. I'm not gonna debate the Melo signing, but I wouldn't be surprised if a younger, innovative GM would do the same as Phil. I don't think Phil has been completely horrendous and I don't think anyone expected us to have a competitive/meaningful season, so the losing/tanking is welcomed imo.

I think he should at least have next season and possibly the one after to prove himself. I mean, aren't we all clamoring for some continuity up in this bish?

If Phil flubs the off-season, there won't be another season of goodwill left in the tank. Regardless of our individual opinions on his performance so far, this is it. He gets things wrong now, he'll never recover.

Would taking a conservative approach to free agency be a flub? If the right guys aren't there I think Phil saves some of the cap space to use on free agents in 2016. This is pretty close to a total rebuild. That can't happen in one offseason.

You know what I meant. The goodwill will be expended if he stumbles. The media will judge him in full based on this off-season. There will be no moratorium on judging Phil until the 2016-2017. And most fans will not be shrugging their shoulders and saying oh well what's another year? Nope. This is it. He doesn't get another 18 months to get his doo-doo connected. That isn't how it works in Le Pomme Grande.

CrushAlot wrote:

Splat wrote:

skeng wrote:

knickscity wrote:

skeng wrote:I just hope Phil can continue to keep Jimmy D from sticking his sausage fingers in the phucking basketball decisions. To me that's a NYK GM job well done.

You may wanna thank the dude that told Dolan to sign him and keep up with his band. The only reason why Dolan hasnt gotten involved is because he's out to show the Knicks woes arent exclusively because of him. Once Phil fails, you wont be able to blame Dolan for it.

Thats always been his goal from day one, but fans seem to be gaga over a dude thats won in a different facet that they currently are in. Phil cannot cash in the rings for exec experience. Dolan hired Phil to get the fan heat off himself, when actually he should have hired a younger more innovative guy who would have put the Knicks on a real rebuild, not an old guy who doesnt have the time to truly rebuild.

Blame or not, I'm happy with Dolan being involved as little as possible.

The way I see it, we are rebuilding, culturally aswell. I'm not gonna debate the Melo signing, but I wouldn't be surprised if a younger, innovative GM would do the same as Phil. I don't think Phil has been completely horrendous and I don't think anyone expected us to have a competitive/meaningful season, so the losing/tanking is welcomed imo.

I think he should at least have next season and possibly the one after to prove himself. I mean, aren't we all clamoring for some continuity up in this bish?

If Phil flubs the off-season, there won't be another season of goodwill left in the tank. Regardless of our individual opinions on his performance so far, this is it. He gets things wrong now, he'll never recover.

Would taking a conservative approach to free agency be a flub? If the right guys aren't there I think Phil saves some of the cap space to use on free agents in 2016. This is pretty close to a total rebuild. That can't happen in one offseason.

knickscity wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Splat wrote:

skeng wrote:

knickscity wrote:

skeng wrote:I just hope Phil can continue to keep Jimmy D from sticking his sausage fingers in the phucking basketball decisions. To me that's a NYK GM job well done.

You may wanna thank the dude that told Dolan to sign him and keep up with his band. The only reason why Dolan hasnt gotten involved is because he's out to show the Knicks woes arent exclusively because of him. Once Phil fails, you wont be able to blame Dolan for it.

Thats always been his goal from day one, but fans seem to be gaga over a dude thats won in a different facet that they currently are in. Phil cannot cash in the rings for exec experience. Dolan hired Phil to get the fan heat off himself, when actually he should have hired a younger more innovative guy who would have put the Knicks on a real rebuild, not an old guy who doesnt have the time to truly rebuild.

Blame or not, I'm happy with Dolan being involved as little as possible.

The way I see it, we are rebuilding, culturally aswell. I'm not gonna debate the Melo signing, but I wouldn't be surprised if a younger, innovative GM would do the same as Phil. I don't think Phil has been completely horrendous and I don't think anyone expected us to have a competitive/meaningful season, so the losing/tanking is welcomed imo.

I think he should at least have next season and possibly the one after to prove himself. I mean, aren't we all clamoring for some continuity up in this bish?

If Phil flubs the off-season, there won't be another season of goodwill left in the tank. Regardless of our individual opinions on his performance so far, this is it. He gets things wrong now, he'll never recover.

Would taking a conservative approach to free agency be a flub? If the right guys aren't there I think Phil saves some of the cap space to use on free agents in 2016. This is pretty close to a total rebuild. That can't happen in one offseason.

Phil cannot put a losing product on the floor next season without the safety net of a draft pick. Thats the only reason why the optimistic hasnt killed him now. There's talent in this free agent class, Phil needs to sign some. his system is a pigeon hole excuse for why he'll likely fail. He'll always have the built in "right guys" nonsense.

However, we have done a decent job in terms of finding young talent, though not as good as Riley and The Heat
In addition to Galloway and his ability to improve, we have a couple of decent young player on our roster already, we just are missing ALL STAR's/2nd Tier players that we need to be contenders, we simply are not there yet, as Phil Jackson just got here in changining the the culture and establishing a winning mentality in stage 1, as this summer is probably step 1

Also, we have some solid players on our Weschester Knicks in addition to Thanasis who already looks like he will have a high ceiling career with his work ethic and improvements made this year alone

Orlando Sanchez

Ben Strong
Cummings

And a few others will get consideration in our D League roster if they are not picked up by other teams this year especially Sanchez who I think would be like having a late 1st rounder/early to mid 2nd rounder on an average draft
His game is very under rated and is comparable to Boston's 1st rounder, Jared Sullinger/AB/Channing Frye, he is highly skilled and could play both inside and out, and will be at least a rotational player in my opinion
His skills compliment our system very well and his all round skill set/high IQ is exactly the players we need
So add Galloway, Thanasis, Orlando Sanchez and we already have a couple younger players that we might sign to 3year deal for nearly the bare minimum like we did with Galloway

newyorker4ever wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:I don't know how many people have watched miami bug they also have an undrafted d league guard named tyler Johnson and he's been spectacular in multiple games. Also yanked Henry walker who has helped the team but Johnson really looks really good.Phil is on the clock here. We should be a team making pulls like this all year.We fixated on Galloway and while he's been ok not anywhere near the class of player of Whiteside or Johnson.

I think this goes to show how these kids can play when they have good players to play with. If Gallo was on Miami he'd be playing better and if Whiteside and Johnson were playing on the Knicks they wouldn't be playing as good. This same goes for Calderon, i think Calderon will be the player he's been up until this year when we put some good players around him next year.

good post that posters sometimes cannot grasp, while they have blased Tyson Chandler and Iman Shumpert as horrible talents, but have proved to be better players once they were traded, so maybe it was never their talent/inabilities that were the problem but the FIT/Roles/inabilities of our other players being the problem with our coaching staff/development staff/trainers to keep them motivated/improving with "LEADERSHIP" as well...

Been saying Sanchez was going to fit in this system well since I saw him with us in the summer league and preseason

I think Phil Jackson is just praying that no one picks Sanchez up, so we do not have to subtract cap space in order to preserve cap space, while offering them 3year deals like we did with Galloway
I totally undersand why we didn't bring up Thanasis, as we should not at this point, as we hold his rights, and have the leverage on him to keep him at minimum costs for an extra year, while if we recalled him up for the rest of the season would count as a year

@Crush

There are a lot of talented BIGS on our Weschester Knicks other D Leaguer's and UFA's, some of which with team options like Hickson and Speights, while Strong and Cummings has played well for us in the D League, and Backnaski is also on our D League roster as well

Then there is also the Sixers claiming Thomas Robinson, stacking many solid young players that are still improving to the minimum salaries, as they will look to try to sign or have the chips to trade for multiple ALL STAR tier players in 2017 with their own new TV deal in addition to the NBA's new TV deals with an extra 20m to spend, with all the draft picks they have/prospects with Noel/Embid and upcoming players in this draft and future drafts