smackeddog wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Towns skills compliment Melo better

Plus there are good, obtainable free agents that go well next to him (Milsap and Monroe), where as you could only really put Robin Lopez next to OK4

Exactly

fishmike wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:Question: If we take Towns..does it have the same effect that Jeremy Lin had with the Asian community? Except this would be with the hispanic community. Towns mother is Dominican and he plays for the Dominican National team. If they view them as equals, Towns and OK4, would this push Dolan and his cronies to force Uncle Phil to pick him up with our pick if avail?

I think it would be great. Dominicans are a proud bunch and I think you will see a lot of Dominican flags in the garden if he is picked by the Knicks.

not if he sucks

NYKBocker wrote:Question: If we take Towns..does it have the same effect that Jeremy Lin had with the Asian community? Except this would be with the hispanic community. Towns mother is Dominican and he plays for the Dominican National team. If they view them as equals, Towns and OK4, would this push Dolan and his cronies to force Uncle Phil to pick him up with our pick if avail?

I think it would be great. Dominicans are a proud bunch and I think you will see a lot of Dominican flags in the garden if he is picked by the Knicks.

I did not know that!

I guess the decision has been made for me! WEPA!

Up until about a month ago--Okafor was CLEARLY the number 1 pick. I knew what Karl Tons*could* do but he really had trouble showing it in the games for the most part. Since his coach yelled at him 6-7 games a go--his "potential" has now translated into "production"

Why would I draft Towns over Okafor?

A. First off I believe he can defend the rim in a materially different way. He's a rim protector Okafor is not.
B He rebounds very well and outside of his area like great re-bounders do. He uses his long arms to go up and over and is quick side to side.
C. He has extended range than Okafor. Towns has more offensive attributes that the present day 4 man has. I think they pass around the same(they are both solid passers)but Towns has range out to 3 and looks more like a Lamarcus Aldridge type offensive player versus Okafor's Al Jefferson. While Okafor could blow up to a 25 point scorer Towns 's diversity could end up as a better weapon for a team.
D. I think he's a slightly better athlete and while they may be around the same height Towns plays longer.

BRIGGS wrote:This is the way I see it

Up until about a month ago--Okafor was CLEARLY the number 1 pick. I knew what Karl Tons*could* do but he really had trouble showing it in the games for the most part. Since his coach yelled at him 6-7 games a go--his "potential" has now translated into "production"

Why would I draft Towns over Okafor?

A. First off I believe he can defend the rim in a materially different way. He's a rim protector Okafor is not.
B He rebounds very well and outside of his area like great re-bounders do. He uses his long arms to go up and over and is quick side to side.
C. He has extended range than Okafor. Towns has more offensive attributes that the present day 4 man has. I think they pass around the same(they are both solid passers)but Towns has range out to 3 and looks more like a Lamarcus Aldridge type offensive player versus Okafor's Al Jefferson. While Okafor could blow up to a 25 point scorer Towns 's diversity could end up as a better weapon for a team.
D. I think he's a slightly better athlete and while they may be around the same height Towns plays longer.

Good comparison, tho I feel that OK4 has some things going for him in that he's already 270 with huge legs and that's before he gets pro level training. He's going to be a monster once he's 100% focused on condition and training on his skills. Often OK4 dribbles away from the double and is so good at getting low and moving with the ball that it's scary how he can drive to the basket and use his length and huge hands to score after being fouled. I just see a kid that should be a dominant player in the NBA where there will be more space due to the 3pt line distance. Defenders are so easily held off by OK4 with is huge wingspan and base. I think he's more than an Al Jeff already.

You're right tho about Towns overall game being so much more well rounded. I can't think of anything he can't do. In the Triangle he'd be a threat from anywhere on the floor. Then when you add the defense on top of that it's very compelling, but he's still a bit of a question mark in comparison with OK4.

nixluva wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:This is the way I see it

Up until about a month ago--Okafor was CLEARLY the number 1 pick. I knew what Karl Tons*could* do but he really had trouble showing it in the games for the most part. Since his coach yelled at him 6-7 games a go--his "potential" has now translated into "production"

Why would I draft Towns over Okafor?

A. First off I believe he can defend the rim in a materially different way. He's a rim protector Okafor is not.
B He rebounds very well and outside of his area like great re-bounders do. He uses his long arms to go up and over and is quick side to side.
C. He has extended range than Okafor. Towns has more offensive attributes that the present day 4 man has. I think they pass around the same(they are both solid passers)but Towns has range out to 3 and looks more like a Lamarcus Aldridge type offensive player versus Okafor's Al Jefferson. While Okafor could blow up to a 25 point scorer Towns 's diversity could end up as a better weapon for a team.
D. I think he's a slightly better athlete and while they may be around the same height Towns plays longer.

Good comparison, tho I feel that OK4 has some things going for him in that he's already 270 with huge legs and that's before he gets pro level training. He's going to be a monster once he's 100% focused on condition and training on his skills. Often OK4 dribbles away from the double and is so good at getting low and moving with the ball that it's scary how he can drive to the basket and use his length and huge hands to score after being fouled. I just see a kid that should be a dominant player in the NBA where there will be more space due to the 3pt line distance. Defenders are so easily held off by OK4 with is huge wingspan and base. I think he's more than an Al Jeff already.

You're right tho about Towns overall game being so much more well rounded. I can't think of anything he can't do. In the Triangle he'd be a threat from anywhere on the floor. Then when you add the defense on top of that it's very compelling, but he's still a bit of a question mark in comparison with OK4.

Vmart wrote:Only way I see the Knicks take Towns is if they don't get the first pick. Ok4 is so much better than Towns.

I disagree. I had Okafor first nearly 95% of the year and I really like him but there are areas that separate each player and that will become apparent in the nBA. That being said I am happy with either--I would not consider us a loser in anyway rather a big winner. I just feel for our team that Towns would be my preferential pick.