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smackeddog
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2/21/2015  12:55 PM
Actually looking at Portlands salary for next season, there's not a hope in hell of them letting Wes Mathews and Robin Lopez walk- they're going to be well under the cap. The only salary the Blazers have is:

Batum at $12mil
Lillard at $4mil
3 low key players totalling $6mil

Aldridge will be up for a $20mil plus a year contract, which puts them on only $42mil. Maxing Wes is what, $15mil, and Robin Lopez will get at most $10mil, that would still only put them on $67mil, plus minimum contracts and cap holds, it still puts them below the luxury tax (probably about $79mil). They could then also sign Afflalo for $7mil a year.

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RonRon
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2/21/2015  2:47 PM
http://hoopshype.com/salaries.htm

http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed

Above are 2 great links to use, any pick that isn't traded, it means the current team owns their pick, for instance Houston owns all of their 1st rounders in their future outside of this years pick going to Lakers for Lin

With all the trades that happened this trade deadline, it makes this summer's FA a lot weaker

I really hope that CA will recover and not be our next Allan Houston *if so I hope we will be able to have another amnesty in place after the next CBA when Durant/Noah/Lebron and many others will be UFA's*
He could be our next Houston/STAT/Kobe and like Billups has recently said, he is NOT a leader, he is not a good defender by any means, and not a facilitator while he is being paid as a franchise talent that should have these qualities


2015 first round draft pick from New Orleans
New Orleans' 1st round pick to Houston protected for selections 1-3 and 20-30 in 2015, 1-3 and 20-30 in 2016, 1-3 and 20-30 in 2017, 1-3 and 20-30 in 2018, 1-3 and 25-30 in 2019 and 1-3 and 25-30 in 2020; if New Orleans has not conveyed a 1st round pick to Houston by 2020, then New Orleans will instead convey its 2020 2nd round pick and 2021 2nd round pick to Houston [Houston-New Orleans-Washington, 7/15/2014]

2015 second round draft pick from New York
New York's 2015 2nd round pick to Houston [Houston-New York, 7/11/2012]

2016 second round draft pick from New York
New York's 2016 2nd round pick to Houston (via Portland to Sacramento then removal of protection from New York) [New York-Portland, 7/15/2012; New Orleans-Portland-Sacramento, 7/10/2013; New York-Sacramento, 8/6/2014; Houston-Sacramento, 9/17/2014]

2017 second round draft pick from Portland
Portland's 2017 2nd round pick to Houston [Houston-Portland, 7/10/2013]


Had CA had these qualities, both JR Smith and Iman Shumpert will not have struggled as much as they did on the Knicks but has elevated their games since they were traded instantly

We have to admit that we could have taken a huge risk in giving CA the contract he currently has in addition to this injury/age/inabilities
I wonder if teams teams will consider trading for CA this summer and what we could actually get back
If we can get back multiple picks in this draft and future drafts, while not costing us major contracts beyond 2017, CA should really consider it so he can join a contender and play as a 3rd option or 6th man role to a really strong team
If CA is willing to let his Ego go and waive his no trade clause to a contender, there are still many teams that can utilize his abilities to shoot and play bully ball
IT would allow him to play out the rest of his contract instead of being a #1 option with a rebuilding Knick's that has limited abilities in improving


Problem is for the Knick's, he is not the 1st piece to build around, especially at his age/weakness's/inabilities, but if he joins a team like Houston where Harden's ability to penetrate/facilitate/and finish takes away the opponents ability to focus on CA, while they also have many good defenders to make up for his defense
They also have the salaries to make it actually work, in addition to our own 2nd rounders the next couple of years, in addition to all of their 1st rounders and other teams 1st rounders as well *outside of this year's pick going to Lakers for Lin*


By next summer, I just do not see how we can build a team around CA at his current salary that would be LEGIT Championship contenders, unless Lebron James joins the NYK's and with the additions that Cleveland has made with JR Smith, MoSGOV, and Iman Shumpert, in addition to the picks that they will have this summer *less favorable 1st rounder between Chicago/Cleveland*, MLE, and chemistry gained from playing with each other with their core

2015 second round draft pick from Boston
Boston's 2015 2nd round pick to Cleveland protected for selections 31-55 (if this pick falls within its protected range and is therefore not conveyed, then Boston's obligation to Cleveland will be extinguished) [Boston-Brooklyn-Cleveland, 7/10/2014]

2015 second round draft pick from Chicago
Cleveland will receive the less favorable of Chicago's 2015 2nd round pick and Portland's 2015 2nd round pick and Orlando will receive the more favorable of these two picks (via Cleveland to Chicago to Denver) [Cleveland-Portland, 6/27/2013; Chicago-Cleveland, 1/7/2014; Chicago-Denver, 6/26/2014; Chicago-Orlando, 7/14/2014; Cleveland-Denver, 1/7/2015]; this pick conveyance is the same as the one described in "2015 second round draft pick from Portland" on Cleveland Credits

2015 second round draft pick from Philadelphia
Philadelphia's 2015 2nd round pick to Cleveland provided it has not been conveyed to Boston (see Philadelphia Debits) and protected for selections 31-50 and 56-60 (if Philadelphia conveys this pick to Boston or it falls within either of its protected ranges and is therefore not conveyed to Cleveland, then Philadelphia's obligation to Cleveland will be extinguished) [Cleveland-Philadelphia, 9/27/2014]

2015 second round draft pick from Portland
Cleveland will receive the less favorable of Chicago's 2015 2nd round pick and Portland's 2015 2nd round pick and Orlando will receive the more favorable of these two picks (via Cleveland to Chicago to Denver) [Cleveland-Portland, 6/27/2013; Chicago-Cleveland, 1/7/2014; Chicago-Denver, 6/26/2014; Chicago-Orlando, 7/14/2014; Cleveland-Denver, 1/7/2015]; this pick conveyance is the same as the one described in "2015 second round draft pick from Chicago" on Cleveland Credits

2015 second round draft pick from Sacramento
Sacramento's 2015 2nd round pick to Cleveland (via Boston) protected for selections 31-55 (if this pick falls within its protected range and is therefore not conveyed, then Sacramento's obligation to Cleveland will be extinguished) [Boston-Sacramento, 2/17/2009; Boston-Cleveland, 9/25/2014]

2016 second round draft pick from L.A. Clippers
L.A. Clippers' 2016 2nd round pick to Cleveland (via New Orleans) protected for selections 31-55 (if this pick falls within its protected range and is therefore not conveyed, then the L.A. Clippers' obligation to Cleveland will be extinguished) [L.A. Clippers-New Orleans, 8/12/2009; Cleveland-New Orleans, 7/11/2014]

2017 second round draft pick from Sacramento
Sacramento's 2017 2nd round pick to Cleveland (via Boston) protected for selections 31-55 (if this pick falls within its protected range and is therefore not conveyed, then Sacramento's obligation to Cleveland will be extinguished) [Boston-Sacramento, 2/24/2011; Boston-Cleveland, 9/25/2014]

nixluva
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2/21/2015  4:33 PM
You can't look at things only based on 1 off season. Just cuz we can't put a title contender together in one summer doesn't mean that the process ends and we'll be stuck. So much can happen between the start of next year and the 2016 playoffs. The important thing is to have a good off season and put together a core to build from. It's just the start of the process. 1st we finish off this season and see which of these role players might help next season. Then we hope for a good lotto and draft. Free Agency doesn't have to be a home run. Phil may not get one of the top guys. Phil needs to just find the most efficient players he can for the most reasonable price he can.

With regard to all the picks Cleveland may have, that doesn't really guarantee SQUAT! It's about how the players on your roster fit together and perform. The whole being greater than the sum of it's parts is not just a cliche. Ask Atlanta about that. We can't worry about what other teams are doing. That's a waste of time. Phil has to be smart about this since he knows he has limited resources. No pick in 2016. So he's going to have to really be smart and methodical in doing this. Try to make as few mistakes as possible from here on. Get the draft right and be real aggressive in searching the undrafted players for a hidden gem. There will always be players that fall thru the cracks.

yellowboy90
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2/21/2015  4:52 PM
smackeddog wrote:Actually looking at Portlands salary for next season, there's not a hope in hell of them letting Wes Mathews and Robin Lopez walk- they're going to be well under the cap. The only salary the Blazers have is:

Batum at $12mil
Lillard at $4mil
3 low key players totalling $6mil

Aldridge will be up for a $20mil plus a year contract, which puts them on only $42mil. Maxing Wes is what, $15mil, and Robin Lopez will get at most $10mil, that would still only put them on $67mil, plus minimum contracts and cap holds, it still puts them below the luxury tax (probably about $79mil). They could then also sign Afflalo for $7mil a year.


Are you adding cap holds and you forgot about Kamaan and Afflalo
So what's our most likely offseason now?

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