just excellent... dumbasses all around..

smackeddog wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:This is insane that he didnt have surgery sooner and was allowed play on it. The only good part is Carmelo is an athlete who did not depend on athletic ability.

It's insane that we have him $124mik without checking out his knees.

Melo probably could've played without doing further damage but the bottomline is his knee is deteriorating from 12yrs of heavy minutes

Or maybe he simply hurt his knee and needs it fixed??

It's fine if you want to believe it isnt a wear & tear injury.

He had issues with the knee and shoulders last year too by the way. If anything he hurt it last year and we still signed him to $124mil

Wouldn't it be standard operating procedure/due diligence for him to have a complete physical before being signed to the new contract or am I just being foolishly logical in thinking this...

Shit happens- look at Dwight howard, who now battles knee injuries. All players will get injured, decline etc- it's just a fact of basketball. I like the phase we're at (lots of cap space), because I know you eventually have to spend that money, and when you do you're at risk of those players getting injured and being saddled with the contract for the next 4 years. It's just life- you can come up with all the 'oh we should never have given them that contract' (and I didn't want to in the first place), declerations you like, but the alternative is you end up with no one.

Just interested to see if there was a complete physical examination, including the type of tests which would look at the condition of his knees.

I understand that it is difficult to predict injuries, but signing someone with a preexisting problem can lead to trouble.

Amare is a good example of this kind of thing in a bad way.

I also seem to remember conspiracy theories about Gallinari's back, the possibility that the Knicks had overlooked the problem and drafted him anyway, and that the pre-season injury was not the true cause of his pre-existing back problem.

And why would you sign someone to a Max contract knowing that the player had an injury. At the very least you use the injury as a bargaining chip and get the payout knocked down a bit if you do chose to resign him.

Hopefully going forward there will be more respect for others opinions

gunsnewing wrote:I'm referring to how those guys were bullied for speaking the truth. Unfortunately the truth always hurts

Some of them said he was not really hurt and that the injury was just a ploy. You can't have it both ways. "See I told you he wasn't hurt. See I told you he was hurt". Sometimes you get called out for speaking out of both sides of your mouth

nixluva wrote:This doesn't seem to be an injury that just happened recently. It seems like a degenerative condition due to wear and tear. It also doesn't have to be a situation that will stop Melo from fulfilling his contract. Once the procedure is done it should, if successful, provide Melo with the needed cartilage to play for years.

The abrasion of a sclerotic lesion superficially removes dead bone, exposes vascularity providing a tissue bed for blood clot attachment. Postoperative joint protection provides an environment for clot organization and fibrous tissue formation. Subsequent fibrocartilage formation has maintained integrity for up to 6 years,

So in theory this operation could give Melo a few years where he can play on the repaired knee. Much like other players who have had similar procedures. Only thing is that Melo is having his work done at an older age so it's hard to know just how it will all work out. If successful tho it should be just what he needs to finish out his career.

We can only hope he has a few productive years left in him like Wade and not like Granger

gunsnewing wrote:

nixluva wrote:This doesn't seem to be an injury that just happened recently. It seems like a degenerative condition due to wear and tear. It also doesn't have to be a situation that will stop Melo from fulfilling his contract. Once the procedure is done it should, if successful, provide Melo with the needed cartilage to play for years.

The abrasion of a sclerotic lesion superficially removes dead bone, exposes vascularity providing a tissue bed for blood clot attachment. Postoperative joint protection provides an environment for clot organization and fibrous tissue formation. Subsequent fibrocartilage formation has maintained integrity for up to 6 years,

So in theory this operation could give Melo a few years where he can play on the repaired knee. Much like other players who have had similar procedures. Only thing is that Melo is having his work done at an older age so it's hard to know just how it will all work out. If successful tho it should be just what he needs to finish out his career.

We can only hope he has a few productive years left in him like Wade and not like Granger

Didn't Wade also have his MCL or something taken out before the other operation?