nixluva wrote:knicks1248 wrote:mreinman wrote:fishmike wrote:knicks1248 wrote:fishmike wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Even if we get a Number 1, 2 or 3 pick..we have a coach that (more than likely will end up with 9 wins) what gives anyone faith in a coach that holds the worst record in franchise history and maybe the NBA.
9 wins 2014/15
25 wins 2015/16
33 win 2016/17Is that when you guys will start to reconsider
Easy. Its not bad coaching its talent. When he fails with some decent players who were picked by the same GM that hired the coach may the reconsidering begin. This is a good year to let Fisher take his lumps.
Oh he's taking lumps, the team is not competing at all, how does a player learn from that, how does he develop if all he knows is losing.
If i show you how to drive, and you wreck every car, do you continue to let me teach you.
I would say its YOUR fault for teaching me in the car, and if your pissed about me wrecking them you should have sent me to drivers-ed where I can practice in simulation like everyone else. This is Fishers drivers-ed.Team did compete. 17 of the first 22 losses were by 5 points or less. They lacked the ponies to finish. Now with the towel waived the blowouts commence.
Saying the team never competed is not accurate.
the team competed hard.
the team sucked hard.
The team competed hard, don't make me laugh..you leave veteran savvy priggs on the bench and put a rookie in to close games in the clutch, and watch him turn the ball over every chance he had the ball.
changing your starting line up in the 2nd half of games.
mark jackson got fired for winning 50 games and people were piss, kerr comes in with damn near the same exact rotation, and they are the 2nd best team in the league.
Look, if you guys think fisher has nothing to do with our record, you really are living in La la land.
But i'll tell you this, as long as he's the coach, i don't care if the starting line up is, kobe, MJ. magic, bird and shaq, we will be a bad team for yrs to come
The Problem is that you have nothing with which to base that opinion. You can't use this season as any indication. I will say this. Unlike most styles of play the Triangle is less dependent on the Coach on the bench as much as it's about the coach on the Practice Floor. Phil barely ever did much most of the time on the bench. This is about teaching your players how to get it done themselves. He's not out there calling plays every time down. It's a read and react offense. You have to have players that can actually get it done and with this roster we don't have enough players that can.
Phil, Fish, Rambis and Cleamons are doing things almost exactly the way Phil has always done them. It's the players!!!
Phil had to bring in Tex winters to truly teach the triangle, and that was in an era where half court basketball was a staple in the NBA. He had the best player and arguable the 2nd best player(on both ends of the court) in the nba during all his championship runs.
Melo, shump, larkin, , JR, daly, wear, acy are no where close to being a group that fits the fundamental of the triangle
Amare, Coles, Calderon, THJ and Jason Smith can thrive as role players in the system. Phil said if guys aren't getting it after 3 months or by xmas, he's going to start making moves, which he has, is he going to keep changing the players every 3 months?
There are only 2 teams in the last 30 yrs that have won running the triangle philosophy, 95% of coaches want nothing to do with the triangle or it's philosophy because it stagnates players ability to create.
Good luck finding any player in the NBA, or college who knows anything about the system, and unless phil is at every practice, or doing his meditation dance, don't think that fisher has the experience to teach or adjust.
He hasn't shown me he can teach, adjust, rotate, or prepare a team. The knicks play like robots, there passes are super predictable because they constantly play half court and almost never have the defense on there heals. EVERY SINGLE TIME DOWN COURT, even in the middle of a fast break, they will wait until the defense sets up so they can run the triangle and make predictable passes.
The only time they play lose, and go on a minnny run, is when they scrap the triangle.
I'm not even going to go into the defensive philosophy, thats so depressing.
So please, pretty please, with sugar on top, give me one damn piece of evidence that will indicate that fisher will be a good coach in the near future?
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