mreinman wrote:Nalod wrote:mreinman wrote:Nalod wrote:To assume Phil is cooked and fish can't coach means you have some sure fire idea as to who can.
To assume and lay blame in hindsight means one has clarity to another path.
Also, I believe that the Fisher hiring was a desperation move with Phil really not having many options.
Well said and I appreciate the effort.
I am in no doubt "Wishful thinking mode" and filled with "HOPE and FAITH". Foolish as it may be when the all time greatest coach in the history of the game makes a commitment to change the culture and gut the team I stand with that. If season one is an epic disasteer becuase of injury and a roster that can't exectute does not give me reason to give up.
IN fact, I think all great acheivements in sports are done not by following the norm but by defying it!!
Is it old and antiquated in todays NBA? I dont' see how. I would think that even phil had made adjustments based on his personel. Rhonden in the Times yesterday wrong a nice piece (its posted on the UK home page) that even mentioned how Riles went from Showtime, to Smashmouth on the knicks to being the only coach to take 3 teams to the finals finally with Miami with Wade and Shaq. Each time having to adapt.
Granted, he is now the architect of this and to give up this early, even if this season is done does not warrant in my opinion to clean the slate and give up. If PHil bails, then its a lost cause. Something last year made him optimistic about taking on the job and set about a plan. If it was a money grab, thats another story of course.
In year one does the resulting win/lost make for a change of plan if the team has 9 expirings on it? If it was a .500 team would he be thinking any different about the LONG term? About the only thing I can think of is if we were succeeding it would be a very effective Bargnani playing along side Melo. We would not be thinking Lottery but Bargnani would be a key piece or one to trade. In his demise, we absolutly suck but the prize is a potential top three pick.
Plan B.
I admire the tenacity of sticking with a plan.
At this point we need to stick with the plan. If we have a terrible year next year (and give a really high pick to Toronto) then the sh1t will really start hitting the (w)fan.
Riley has adjusted/adapted numerous times to the evolving times. Has Phil?
I don't think that it was a money grab. A man with Phil's legacy does not do a money grab without believe that his legacy will not be tarnished.
I think that he overestimated Melo and overestimated himself thinking that he will Zenify Melo into taking a hit for the benefit of the team.
When it came down to crunch time, Melo and his Posse gave him the FU just like Kerr did. PJax did not hold any cards and letting Melo walk was probably not a decision that he was allowed to make.
The decision to not make trades last year seemed to have really hurt us badly.
The Chandler trade so far looks awful.
Jason Smith looks awful.
I was never high on the Fisher signing and I can't say that is looking good for him either.
Melo not giving him a real discount looks really bad on Phil's part.
I don't see how the triangle has adjusted for Sabermetrics and 3 point efficiency. I have never seen more long mid range jumpers in my life.
Our defensive strategy to clog the paint and allow teams to rain threes on us seems to be a very antiquated approach.
This tank may net us a really good pick though it will probably scare off many of the top FA's. Not good for Phil.
This off season will be very telling ... Phils legacy is on the line and I am sure he knows that. Pressure is ON.
P.S. I was as excited about Phil joining the Knicks as anyone, however, I am going to patiently wait to see how it plays out. So far, eeeeesh
The TRIANGLE is not as boring as it has been coached under Fisher. We don't really have pure shooters on the roster/scorer other then Carmelo. Further, we don't really have great passers on this team. Take a look at Carmelo when he passes the ball; it is almost as if it is a very painful act for him. He doesn't deliver the ball in rhythm, as a result, you can see the outcome. For the TRIANGLE to be effective, PLAYERS have to be willing to share the ball. It should be: touch dribble, and pass. Right now, you can see the inconsistent lack of fluidity on the court. Particularly, when Carmelo and Amare are on the floor together. The ball stick too much and we end up with not enough spacing nor time on the shot clock.