knicks1248 wrote:Splat wrote:knicks1248 wrote:gunsnewing wrote:The offense would have to go through OK4 a lot. That is the triangle. Will Melo be ok with not having the ball in his hands every possession? Doubt it
Pipe dream alert, He's 18 yrs old, pays in a MDA type system and there is absolutely no telling how well in will translate into NBA player, right now he's not even starter material.
If this was a contending team, you would not have had to pay melo $124 mill, he would have sign for much less. Just think whats going to happen this summer, he's going to throw boat loads of $$$ for any sub par FA much, or max out Gasol and Monroe for their contact yr numbers.
It is merely desperation that drives people to say things like drafting OK4 + good FA signings = good team. Nobody knows how drafted players will pan out, but particularly very young ones who have not matured yet. OK4 is still basically a child in a man's body. For every Lebron, there are plenty of high school phenoms and 1 year college players who are considered sure things who are complete washouts in the NBA.
Plus, if you did draft a guy like OK4 and all he can do is score, then the fantasy of teaming him with Melo is already a failure of the imagination. Just throwing scorers together will produce one butt ugly team that will go nowhere in particular.
Literally EVERYTHING must go perfectly for this franchise to field a contender while Melo is still physically capable. Expecting perfect execution from one of the worst franchises in professional sports is asking for a whole lot.
100% agree,
At this point, I could never bank on FA and a draft to right the ship. I remember phil making it seem like he couldn't careless weather melo re-sign or not, "we would be fine" was his words, he also thought once he got melo on board, pau would be a mere phone call away, especially with calderon on ready on the squad.
But the way the GODS work around MSG, the knicks will go on some type of late season run, miss the playoffs by a game or 2, then be force to resign Bargi in Amare for 3 reasons
1)They fit well into what he's trying to build
2)You won't have nearly the options you thought you would have had
3)Trying to keep the core intact so you're not bringing in 9 new players and have to go through another identity crisis
Per bold above, that was Phil thinking his vulcan mind juju rules all planets and if he says it will work out either way, that was probably what the vanity of his prior success led him to believe. But it was mostly him thinking his mind games would work magic on Melo and that was phase one of re-inventing Melo in his image. Phil's god complex is not working out. He may not have much to fall back on.
Per underlined above, not having much to fall back on is related to his early insistence on build the Triangle Club at MSG. Wanting people he could trust is understandable, but he was hawking kool-aid and he had a limited pool of past drinkers to recruit from. He expended that quickly and ended up settling on Fisher.
Phil has already failed basically. The "Give It More Time" crowd will raise their puny fists to almighty yahweh and protest mightily, but the core premises of Phil's bamboozlement have come up shooting blanks.
The Triangle Theology is a robust failure. A book could be written on this failed premise, but the core failure is this: If you are going to blab about building a new culture around Triangles, then overpaying the anti-Triangle player says you're full of chit.
If you're going to build that culture and use the Triangle, then proceed as if you mean it. Instead, we were sold a pile of steaming chit and led on to believe there was an actual plan to execute on the promise.
Phil cashed in on his reputation because he found the one starphucker who would reward him: James Dolan.
And that is why this will fail.
Phil is no savior.
Only suckers believe that now.
