yellowboy90 wrote:I don't want to continue the quote fest but you are right the knicks can not technically give Butler or other young FA a no-trade clause but they can sort of give him one ala what the Mavericks did with Parsons.

I posted this a while ago :
http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/dallas-mavericks/headlines/20140714-rockets-gm-daryl-morey-mavs-a-smart-organization-chandler-parsons-contract-most-untradable-i-ve-ever-seen.ece

Houston Rockets general manager Daryl Morey has high praise for the Dallas Mavericks' front office and former forward Chandler Parsons.

Compliments aside, there's a reason Houston declined to match the Mavs' offer to Parsons.

"The contract (Parsons) got...the Mavericks are a smart organization; they obviously wanted to get him...that structure of that (contract) is literally one of the most untradeable structures I've ever seen," Morey told KBME-AM 790 in Houston.

According to a Houston Chronicle report, Parsons' contract states that he can't be traded until Jan. 15, 2015. And, following the 2014-2015 season, his approval is required for any trade in which he's involved. Parsons is also able to opt out of his contract after two seasons.

Bonn1997 wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:I don't want to continue the quote fest but you are right the knicks can not technically give Butler or other young FA a no-trade clause but they can sort of give him one ala what the Mavericks did with Parsons.

I posted this a while ago :
http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/dallas-mavericks/headlines/20140714-rockets-gm-daryl-morey-mavs-a-smart-organization-chandler-parsons-contract-most-untradable-i-ve-ever-seen.ece

Houston Rockets general manager Daryl Morey has high praise for the Dallas Mavericks' front office and former forward Chandler Parsons.

Compliments aside, there's a reason Houston declined to match the Mavs' offer to Parsons.

"The contract (Parsons) got...the Mavericks are a smart organization; they obviously wanted to get him...that structure of that (contract) is literally one of the most untradeable structures I've ever seen," Morey told KBME-AM 790 in Houston.

According to a Houston Chronicle report, Parsons' contract states that he can't be traded until Jan. 15, 2015. And, following the 2014-2015 season, his approval is required for any trade in which he's involved. Parsons is also able to opt out of his contract after two seasons.

I think Chicago would match in a second if we did that with Butler. I don't think they'd be concerned about trading him.

I also think they would match however I think an opt out would make them pause. They might be willing to give him a max contract now but will they be up for returning to this situation in two years? I think they still would match but they would be skeptical.

yellowboy90 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:I don't want to continue the quote fest but you are right the knicks can not technically give Butler or other young FA a no-trade clause but they can sort of give him one ala what the Mavericks did with Parsons.

I posted this a while ago :
http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/dallas-mavericks/headlines/20140714-rockets-gm-daryl-morey-mavs-a-smart-organization-chandler-parsons-contract-most-untradable-i-ve-ever-seen.ece

Houston Rockets general manager Daryl Morey has high praise for the Dallas Mavericks' front office and former forward Chandler Parsons.

Compliments aside, there's a reason Houston declined to match the Mavs' offer to Parsons.

"The contract (Parsons) got...the Mavericks are a smart organization; they obviously wanted to get him...that structure of that (contract) is literally one of the most untradeable structures I've ever seen," Morey told KBME-AM 790 in Houston.

According to a Houston Chronicle report, Parsons' contract states that he can't be traded until Jan. 15, 2015. And, following the 2014-2015 season, his approval is required for any trade in which he's involved. Parsons is also able to opt out of his contract after two seasons.

I think Chicago would match in a second if we did that with Butler. I don't think they'd be concerned about trading him.

I also think they would match however I think an opt out would make them pause. They might be willing to give him a max contract now but will they be up for returning to this situation in two years? I think they still would match but they would be skeptical.

If you can't see in this reasoning you'd be making it easier for Chicago

Then you're probably gonna have a hard time understanding other situations

Butler doesn't appear to be looking for short deals

So offering him this and getting him to sign are 2 totally and drastically different things

Seems like he wants what his value suggest he is

There was a little nugget dropped last night from a Chicago

Reporter that said he may have been offered Iguodala money but

Is proving he's worth Klay Thompson money and he was counting on it and has proved it

From the horses mouth again for those of us in denial

MINNEAPOLIS — Before making his season debut and sinking the winning free throws with 0.2 seconds left, Jimmy Butler noticed a reporter moving a tape recorder closer to his face.
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"Yeah, get your mic closer," Butler said. "People say I'm chasing money when that's not it. Because I'm going to be in Chicago. I say that with a smile on my face because I know that for a fact. We'll resume (negotiations) back in July."

The Friday night deadline for Butler's rookie contract extension came and went. Butler passed on what sources said was a multiyear deal averaging $11 million. Butler will be a restricted free agent next summer, and general manager Gar Forman said Friday the Bulls are confident they'll keep him.

"We left off (talks) on great terms — not just good, great," Butler said. "And our goal is still the same and that's to win a championship.
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"This is still home. These are still my guys. This is the team I want to be on. This is the city I want to represent. And that all comes down from the management and ownership, so a lot of respect for everybody that's helped me through the whole process."

No matter how much ketchup, mustard, reslish, oinions, beans, and cheese

You put on the contract offer the Bulls will always have the better dressed Brat

With a steak on the grill just in case

Bonn1997 wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:I don't want to continue the quote fest but you are right the knicks can not technically give Butler or other young FA a no-trade clause but they can sort of give him one ala what the Mavericks did with Parsons.

I posted this a while ago :
http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/dallas-mavericks/headlines/20140714-rockets-gm-daryl-morey-mavs-a-smart-organization-chandler-parsons-contract-most-untradable-i-ve-ever-seen.ece

Houston Rockets general manager Daryl Morey has high praise for the Dallas Mavericks' front office and former forward Chandler Parsons.

Compliments aside, there's a reason Houston declined to match the Mavs' offer to Parsons.

"The contract (Parsons) got...the Mavericks are a smart organization; they obviously wanted to get him...that structure of that (contract) is literally one of the most untradeable structures I've ever seen," Morey told KBME-AM 790 in Houston.

According to a Houston Chronicle report, Parsons' contract states that he can't be traded until Jan. 15, 2015. And, following the 2014-2015 season, his approval is required for any trade in which he's involved. Parsons is also able to opt out of his contract after two seasons.

I think Chicago would match in a second if we did that with Butler. I don't think they'd be concerned about trading him.

I also think they would match however I think an opt out would make them pause. They might be willing to give him a max contract now but will they be up for returning to this situation in two years? I think they still would match but they would be skeptical.

Well, the worst case scenario if they match is that he opts out and signs elsewhere, which is no worse than them not matching this off-season anyway. It's actually better for them because they would have gotten more seasons out of Butler.

You have a point but you put what ever you can as a GM/Pres. to make it appealing to Butler and displeasing to Chi. It is unlikely to work but you still try. If he happens to negotiate with Ny it is for a reason.

Marc Gasol admitted he is not particularly looking forward to free agency where he will likely be courted by the San Antonio Spurs, New York Knicks, Los Angeles Lakers and others.

"I've been already through one," he says of the summer of 2011, when as a restricted free agent he re-signed with the Grizzlies for $58 million over four years, "and I did not especially enjoy it. I don't know how I'm going to feel in July. I really don't. This is the next five years of my life and I'm going to go all in. Whatever team you play for, you've always got to feel like you represent that team, that you've got to play for it. Because that's the way we grew up in Spain. You play for the city. You play for a way of doing things. It's not about you. I do this for them. I play for the city, for the franchise or whatever. You've got to have that pride that comes with it."

The Memphis Grizzlies badly want to keep Gasol and Gasol has stated he wants to remain with the franchise.

"I'm pretty thankful for everything that happened," Gasol said.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/236027/Marc-Gasol-Not-Particularly-Looking-Forward-To-Outside-Courtship-Of-Spurs-Knicks-Lakers-Others#RQ6xbS9lyRprx2ek.99