Knicks1969 wrote:We need a true 7' that can pass the ball efficiently, anchor the defense, and is a double double machine. Basically, another Tyson Chandler

tyson was a efficient passing 7 footer? Really?

Knixkik wrote:I like Monroe, but i really want Tabias Harris. Would be deadly next to Melo, and a true 2nd option on offense. For center look out for Kosta Koufos, he's a real sleeper this offseason because he is stuck behind Marc Gasol, but he's a nice option at center and is relatively skilled and a good defender.

If the Knicks can not get Lopez or Asik, Koufos would be a nice pick up. I would also then go get Alexis Ajinca(Pelican). He is a project but boy does he do some good things. He just happens to be a foul machine but hopefully that drops with more NBA playing time.

Nalod wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:We need a true 7' that can pass the ball efficiently, anchor the defense, and is a double double machine. Basically, another Tyson Chandler

tyson was a efficient passing 7 footer? Really?

The system needs a player with a midrange shot. Tyson could not.
While no doubt this season is a disappointment the Dallas trade really did provide us with a lot of parts ON PAPER:

Jose, a vet shooter.
Dalembart a rim protecter
Larkin, a back up PG with yooth and friendly contract
ClearAnthony, Yoot potential.

Perhaps some are confused and think that Tyson if still on the knicks would be as good as Dallas is with him in the line up.
Perhaps with our injury and the benefit of hindsight some how confuse this with intellegence.
The trade was never designed to turn us into a contender.

He was not going to be good here. Most of our realists know that.

The question is, did we make a good trade - Get back a good package for him.

Unless Thanan and/or Early are really good, then it looks like we did not do well.

yellowboy90 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Nalod wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:We need a true 7' that can pass the ball efficiently, anchor the defense, and is a double double machine. Basically, another Tyson Chandler

tyson was a efficient passing 7 footer? Really?

The system needs a player with a midrange shot. Tyson could not.
While no doubt this season is a disappointment the Dallas trade really did provide us with a lot of parts ON PAPER:

Jose, a vet shooter.
Dalembart a rim protecter
Larkin, a back up PG with yooth and friendly contract
ClearAnthony, Yoot potential.

Perhaps some are confused and think that Tyson if still on the knicks would be as good as Dallas is with him in the line up.
Perhaps with our injury and the benefit of hindsight some how confuse this with intellegence.
The trade was never designed to turn us into a contender.

He was not going to be good here. Most of our realists know that.

The question is, did we make a good trade - Get back a good package for him.

Unless Thanan and/or Early are really good, then it looks like we did not do well.

Like I said before it was not a good trade because of the value Dallas placed on Tyson. They had mentioned how much they missed Tyson way before the trade. I always thought Tyson had 1st rd pick value and thought they would have asked for a 2015 pick. It is what it is though. You really know how the negotiations went and what was asked. Maybe the tried then settled.

The reason Phil didn't get a 1st probably didn't ask

Which is a tattle on himself, he figures trading

Tyson to Dallas a team who won 49gms without him

Gets you a very low 1st rounder, in that would Tyson make them worse

Probably not, that's why you have to be creative

He could have included Shumpert in the deal expanded to a 3way

Got a 1st rounder and maybe another future 2nd rounder from another team

So in essence getting 3 2nd rounders for Tyson instead of just 2 in a so-so draft

Maybe package them to move up and get another first in the draft

This is what someone like Morey would have done

yellowboy90 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Nalod wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:We need a true 7' that can pass the ball efficiently, anchor the defense, and is a double double machine. Basically, another Tyson Chandler

tyson was a efficient passing 7 footer? Really?

The system needs a player with a midrange shot. Tyson could not.
While no doubt this season is a disappointment the Dallas trade really did provide us with a lot of parts ON PAPER:

Jose, a vet shooter.
Dalembart a rim protecter
Larkin, a back up PG with yooth and friendly contract
ClearAnthony, Yoot potential.

Perhaps some are confused and think that Tyson if still on the knicks would be as good as Dallas is with him in the line up.
Perhaps with our injury and the benefit of hindsight some how confuse this with intellegence.
The trade was never designed to turn us into a contender.

He was not going to be good here. Most of our realists know that.

The question is, did we make a good trade - Get back a good package for him.

Unless Thanan and/or Early are really good, then it looks like we did not do well.

Like I said before it was not a good trade because of the value Dallas placed on Tyson. They had mentioned how much they missed Tyson way before the trade. I always thought Tyson had 1st rd pick value and thought they would have asked for a 2015 pick. It is what it is though. You really know how the negotiations went and what was asked. Maybe the tried then settled.

To be honest, I'd still rather have two second round picks in last year's draft than a low first-rounder in this year's draft. Maybe we could've squeezed another prospect out of Dallas?

mreinman wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:We need a true 7' that can pass the ball efficiently, anchor the defense, and is a double double machine. Basically, another Tyson Chandler

tyson was a efficient passing 7 footer? Really?

That's some funny chit

Knicks1969 wrote:

Splat wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:We need a true 7' that can pass the ball efficiently, anchor the defense, and is a double double machine. Basically, another Tyson Chandler

tyson was a efficient passing 7 footer? Really?

That's some funny chit

That he could not do. He was not a good passer

uh ... so which one of you (1969 posters) should we believe?

I am getting dizzy.

We are to concentrate on drafting a big boy

Knicks1969 wrote:I find myself watching a lot of Detroit's games to study Greg Monroe's game. He is feasting on the Indy's front line tonight. He is a lot more talented then given credit on this board. He is certainly not a shot blocker, but he can guard his position and rebound the ball efficiently. He passes the ball nicely and has a nice I between game.

He's not worth the Max no matter how much footage you watch

F500ONE wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:So, what is considered the max for a player like Monroe?

Greg's is 25% of Cap for Max

Melo = 35% of Cap
Greg = 25% of Cap
Jose = 11% of Cap
J.R. = 10% of Cap

All of these are an emphatic

35% is bad, but just thinking of Jose and JR each being 10% is also very depressing. I've slammed Phil for Jose's contract recently. It does matter. These days fans talk about $6-7M per year like it is trip to McDonalds. In reality, a club cannot afford these contracts if they are not getting production out of the player. The Knicks are such a mess. Phil has so far dug a deeper ditch, not turn things around.