CrushAlot wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

Splat wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

Splat wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:
Melo has already done things in NY with the KNicks that hadn't been done in decades. He is too good not to keep around in my opinion.

What? He won a scoring title. Big deal.

agreed not sure what he is refering to. I mean the 90s knicks did much more than since melo has been here.

It was a weird statement. I think Crush may reflect on that and change his tune.

i give melo part credit for the 54 win season but tyson and even jr smith were just as important along with some veterans.

Knicks hadn't hit 50 wins for the previous 14 years prior to winning 54 and the Atlantic.. They hadn't won the atlantic in 19 years. They hadn't been out of the first round since the year they went to the finals. The Knicks hadn't won over 50 games in 16 years.
It would have been great if the team was rebuilding 'the right way' all of those losing years but they weren't. They have one guy that is an nba starter on their roster.

Sorry, but the only fans who give this stuff significance are the ones who settle for mediocrity. That was a crap team. Started hot, then couldn't play .500 ball for half the season and went into a freefall until Kurt Thomas played hero in Utah. Then they went on a hot streak against a soft schedule and teams that were tanking or resting up for the playoffs, the perfect time to pad their record. It was a phony BS team that played well in spurts, but was inconsistent and unreliable and proved to be a completely inept team when faced with real opposition in the playoffs. Besides, they were real jokers (even with the supposed vet leadership on the team that year) and they almost embarrassed themselves as the Celtics fought back after the Knicks made jackazzes of themselves with their funeral black. A dumb team then just as they are now. Your desperate hunger for success has blinded you to accept garbage and call it an accomplishment. That was a horrible team.

CrushAlot wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

Splat wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

Splat wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:
Melo has already done things in NY with the KNicks that hadn't been done in decades. He is too good not to keep around in my opinion.

What? He won a scoring title. Big deal.

agreed not sure what he is refering to. I mean the 90s knicks did much more than since melo has been here.

It was a weird statement. I think Crush may reflect on that and change his tune.

i give melo part credit for the 54 win season but tyson and even jr smith were just as important along with some veterans.

Knicks hadn't hit 50 wins for the previous 14 years prior to winning 54 and the Atlantic.. They hadn't won the atlantic in 19 years. They hadn't been out of the first round since the year they went to the finals. The Knicks hadn't won over 50 games in 16 years.
It would have been great if the team was rebuilding 'the right way' all of those losing years but they weren't. They have one guy that is an nba starter on their roster.

well you said decades which wasnt true. Secondly i gave him credit for that season however he wasnt alone. Hell i hate jr smith but he was another major reason we won 54 games.

Sorry. Nineteen years felt like over two decades.

Splat wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

Splat wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

Splat wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:
Melo has already done things in NY with the KNicks that hadn't been done in decades. He is too good not to keep around in my opinion.

What? He won a scoring title. Big deal.

agreed not sure what he is refering to. I mean the 90s knicks did much more than since melo has been here.

It was a weird statement. I think Crush may reflect on that and change his tune.

i give melo part credit for the 54 win season but tyson and even jr smith were just as important along with some veterans.

Knicks hadn't hit 50 wins for the previous 14 years prior to winning 54 and the Atlantic.. They hadn't won the atlantic in 19 years. They hadn't been out of the first round since the year they went to the finals. The Knicks hadn't won over 50 games in 16 years.
It would have been great if the team was rebuilding 'the right way' all of those losing years but they weren't. They have one guy that is an nba starter on their roster.

Sorry, but the only fans who give this stuff significance are the ones who settle for mediocrity. That was a crap team. Started hot, then couldn't play .500 ball for half the season and went into a freefall until Kurt Thomas played hero in Utah. Then they went on a hot streak against a soft schedule and teams that were tanking or resting up for the playoffs, the perfect time to pad their record. It was a phony BS team that played well in spurts, but was inconsistent and unreliable and proved to be a completely inept team when faced with real opposition in the playoffs. Besides, they were real jokers (even with the supposed vet leadership on the team that year) and they almost embarrassed themselves as the Celtics fought back after the Knicks made jackazzes of themselves with their funeral black. A dumb team then just as they are now. Your desperate hunger for success has blinded you to accept garbage and call it an accomplishment. That was a horrible team.

CrushAlot wrote:

Splat wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

Splat wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

Splat wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:
Melo has already done things in NY with the KNicks that hadn't been done in decades. He is too good not to keep around in my opinion.

What? He won a scoring title. Big deal.

agreed not sure what he is refering to. I mean the 90s knicks did much more than since melo has been here.

It was a weird statement. I think Crush may reflect on that and change his tune.

i give melo part credit for the 54 win season but tyson and even jr smith were just as important along with some veterans.

Knicks hadn't hit 50 wins for the previous 14 years prior to winning 54 and the Atlantic.. They hadn't won the atlantic in 19 years. They hadn't been out of the first round since the year they went to the finals. The Knicks hadn't won over 50 games in 16 years.
It would have been great if the team was rebuilding 'the right way' all of those losing years but they weren't. They have one guy that is an nba starter on their roster.

Sorry, but the only fans who give this stuff significance are the ones who settle for mediocrity. That was a crap team. Started hot, then couldn't play .500 ball for half the season and went into a freefall until Kurt Thomas played hero in Utah. Then they went on a hot streak against a soft schedule and teams that were tanking or resting up for the playoffs, the perfect time to pad their record. It was a phony BS team that played well in spurts, but was inconsistent and unreliable and proved to be a completely inept team when faced with real opposition in the playoffs. Besides, they were real jokers (even with the supposed vet leadership on the team that year) and they almost embarrassed themselves as the Celtics fought back after the Knicks made jackazzes of themselves with their funeral black. A dumb team then just as they are now. Your desperate hunger for success has blinded you to accept garbage and call it an accomplishment. That was a horrible team.

What did you consider significant over the last 15-19
years? Its funny F5 had an argument with me over when wins are more significant in a previous incarnation here. Apparently winning late in the spring when you are trying to position yourself in the playoffs is being streaky. Not desperate for anything. It seems you have an agenda that you are desperate to push on others.

Do you recall how atrocious that team was mid-season? Well that was the team you got in the playoffs. Besides, people say the East is weak. Well, it was very weak then too. We'll find out how good Toronto is in the playoffs. For now, they can get a nice record going until judgment comes. We failed at the core judgment. We sucked when it counted. Thats what matters. Guys who say 54 as if it is some precious memory and a standard to be measured by are willing to settle for the most mediocre crap. Those are the fans who keep Dolan in business.

CrushAlot wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

Splat wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

Splat wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:
Melo has already done things in NY with the KNicks that hadn't been done in decades. He is too good not to keep around in my opinion.

What? He won a scoring title. Big deal.

agreed not sure what he is refering to. I mean the 90s knicks did much more than since melo has been here.

It was a weird statement. I think Crush may reflect on that and change his tune.

i give melo part credit for the 54 win season but tyson and even jr smith were just as important along with some veterans.

Knicks hadn't hit 50 wins for the previous 14 years prior to winning 54 and the Atlantic.. They hadn't won the atlantic in 19 years. They hadn't been out of the first round since the year they went to the finals. The Knicks hadn't won over 50 games in 16 years.
It would have been great if the team was rebuilding 'the right way' all of those losing years but they weren't. They have one guy that is an nba starter on their roster.

well you said decades which wasnt true. Secondly i gave him credit for that season however he wasnt alone. Hell i hate jr smith but he was another major reason we won 54 games.

Sorry. Nineteen years felt like over two decades.

19 years isnt accurate either. In 1999 we were in the finals and 2000 the eastern conference finals. Sure we won 54 games but we had a early playoff exit which is kind of theme for melos career

Nineteen years is accurate. I said it had been 19 years since the Knicks won the Atlantic. Maybe you should stop saying you like Melo. No big deal if you don't. A lot of guys don't.

CrushAlot wrote:

Splat wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Splat wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

Splat wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

Splat wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:
Melo has already done things in NY with the KNicks that hadn't been done in decades. He is too good not to keep around in my opinion.

What? He won a scoring title. Big deal.

agreed not sure what he is refering to. I mean the 90s knicks did much more than since melo has been here.

It was a weird statement. I think Crush may reflect on that and change his tune.

i give melo part credit for the 54 win season but tyson and even jr smith were just as important along with some veterans.

Knicks hadn't hit 50 wins for the previous 14 years prior to winning 54 and the Atlantic.. They hadn't won the atlantic in 19 years. They hadn't been out of the first round since the year they went to the finals. The Knicks hadn't won over 50 games in 16 years.
It would have been great if the team was rebuilding 'the right way' all of those losing years but they weren't. They have one guy that is an nba starter on their roster.

Sorry, but the only fans who give this stuff significance are the ones who settle for mediocrity. That was a crap team. Started hot, then couldn't play .500 ball for half the season and went into a freefall until Kurt Thomas played hero in Utah. Then they went on a hot streak against a soft schedule and teams that were tanking or resting up for the playoffs, the perfect time to pad their record. It was a phony BS team that played well in spurts, but was inconsistent and unreliable and proved to be a completely inept team when faced with real opposition in the playoffs. Besides, they were real jokers (even with the supposed vet leadership on the team that year) and they almost embarrassed themselves as the Celtics fought back after the Knicks made jackazzes of themselves with their funeral black. A dumb team then just as they are now. Your desperate hunger for success has blinded you to accept garbage and call it an accomplishment. That was a horrible team.

What did you consider significant over the last 15-19
years? Its funny F5 had an argument with me over when wins are more significant in a previous incarnation here. Apparently winning late in the spring when you are trying to position yourself in the playoffs is being streaky. Not desperate for anything. It seems you have an agenda that you are desperate to push on others.

Do you recall how atrocious that team was mid-season? Well that was the team you got in the playoffs. Besides, people say the East is weak. Well, it was very weak then too. We'll find out how good Toronto is in the playoffs. For now, they can get a nice record going until judgment comes. We failed at the core judgment. We sucked when it counted. Thats what matters. Guys who say 54 as if it is some precious memory and a standard to be measured by are willing to settle for the most mediocre crap. Those are the fans who keep Dolan in business.

The team the Knicks got in the playoffs was one that had lost of all of the older vets to injury or exhaustion. If you want to say the roster was poorly assembled because of the age of some of the guys I get that to an extent. But Tyson losing his heart and manhood wasn't expected and shouldn't have happened in the playoffs. JR falling a part mentally and physically wasn't expected. Melo having a torn labrum throughout the playoffs was bad luck. Not sure much more could have gone wrong. Maybe if Cope played more things would have been dramatically different. I know that was the mantra for some at the time.

Fine. And all those things you didn't expect, well they were mostly the true reflection of this team's essence. It fell apart, because it was prone to do that when the pressure was on.

Won't back and forth any longer. I thought it was a lousy team. And I find it hard to understand how anyone can have fond memories of that BS team. But whatever floats your boat. They're your memories, not mine.

Al Iannazzone ‏@Al_Iannazzone · 3h3 hours ago
Melo denied most of the things in the report. He said they are committed to the Triangle and he and Hardaway are cool.

StarksEwing1 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

Splat wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

Splat wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:
Melo has already done things in NY with the KNicks that hadn't been done in decades. He is too good not to keep around in my opinion.

What? He won a scoring title. Big deal.

agreed not sure what he is refering to. I mean the 90s knicks did much more than since melo has been here.

It was a weird statement. I think Crush may reflect on that and change his tune.

i give melo part credit for the 54 win season but tyson and even jr smith were just as important along with some veterans.

Knicks hadn't hit 50 wins for the previous 14 years prior to winning 54 and the Atlantic.. They hadn't won the atlantic in 19 years. They hadn't been out of the first round since the year they went to the finals. The Knicks hadn't won over 50 games in 16 years.
It would have been great if the team was rebuilding 'the right way' all of those losing years but they weren't. They have one guy that is an nba starter on their roster.

well you said decades which wasnt true. Secondly i gave him credit for that season however he wasnt alone. Hell i hate jr smith but he was another major reason we won 54 games.

Sorry. Nineteen years felt like over two decades.

19 years isnt accurate either. In 1999 we were in the finals and 2000 the eastern conference finals. Sure we won 54 games but we had a early playoff exit which is kind of theme for melos career

Nineteen years is accurate. I said it had been 19 years since the Knicks won the Atlantic. Maybe you should stop saying you like Melo. No big deal if you don't. A lot of guys don't.

im talking more about playoff advancement then winning a division. Secondly dont tell me what i feel. I have defended melo quite a bit. I think he is underrated by some. However im also not afraid to be critical of ANY player or point out their flaws

StarksEwing1 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

Splat wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

Splat wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:
Melo has already done things in NY with the KNicks that hadn't been done in decades. He is too good not to keep around in my opinion.

What? He won a scoring title. Big deal.

agreed not sure what he is refering to. I mean the 90s knicks did much more than since melo has been here.

It was a weird statement. I think Crush may reflect on that and change his tune.

i give melo part credit for the 54 win season but tyson and even jr smith were just as important along with some veterans.

Knicks hadn't hit 50 wins for the previous 14 years prior to winning 54 and the Atlantic.. They hadn't won the atlantic in 19 years. They hadn't been out of the first round since the year they went to the finals. The Knicks hadn't won over 50 games in 16 years.
It would have been great if the team was rebuilding 'the right way' all of those losing years but they weren't. They have one guy that is an nba starter on their roster.

well you said decades which wasnt true. Secondly i gave him credit for that season however he wasnt alone. Hell i hate jr smith but he was another major reason we won 54 games.

Sorry. Nineteen years felt like over two decades.

19 years isnt accurate either. In 1999 we were in the finals and 2000 the eastern conference finals. Sure we won 54 games but we had a early playoff exit which is kind of theme for melos career

Nineteen years is accurate. I said it had been 19 years since the Knicks won the Atlantic. Maybe you should stop saying you like Melo. No big deal if you don't. A lot of guys don't.

im talking more about playoff advancement then winning a division. Secondly dont tell me what i feel. I have defended melo quite a bit. I think he is underrated by some. However im also not afraid to be critical of ANY player or point out their flaws

Don't say I am wrong if I say it was 19 years since they won the Atlantic. That is a fact. I don't think I said it had been 19 years in regards to anything else.

i apologize if i misread. Im at work so i probably was distracted