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A TRADE OF SHUMP AND AMARE FOR (BORN READY) STEPHENSON
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Hector
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12/3/2014  11:54 AM
Even though Lance is a knucklehead, I'd gladly take him for 2 knuckleheads (Shump & Chump jr)

I like his rebounding. He also plays with some intensity, even though sometimes he wigs out a bit.

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12/3/2014  12:06 PM
Two trades we must do:

Bargnani to OKC for Collison and Perkins
Amare and Shump for Lance and byambo

Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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12/3/2014  12:09 PM
Knicks1969 wrote:Two trades we must do:

Bargnani to OKC for Collison and Perkins
Amare and Shump for Lance and byambo

I don't understand the point of the OKC trade.

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12/3/2014  12:34 PM
VCoug wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:Two trades we must do:

Bargnani to OKC for Collison and Perkins
Amare and Shump for Lance and byambo

I don't understand the point of the OKC trade.

I don't understand the point of any of these trades.

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12/3/2014  12:38 PM
Vmart wrote:
VCoug wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:Two trades we must do:

Bargnani to OKC for Collison and Perkins
Amare and Shump for Lance and byambo

I don't understand the point of the OKC trade.

I don't understand the point of any of these trades.

when you are bored (and your team sucks):

1. Poor people have sex
2. Fans make ridiculous fantasy trades (especially when you are bored and 1. does not apply)

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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12/3/2014  12:46 PM
Why does OKC give up a useful piece in Collison for fukking useless Bargs? OKC has title aspirations and those kinds of teams don't trade guys like Collison whose been with them
His entire career. Lmfao. No way in hell that trade
Is a pure pipe dream.
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12/3/2014  12:49 PM
H1AND1 wrote:Why does OKC give up a useful piece in Collison for fukking useless Bargs? OKC has title aspirations and those kinds of teams don't trade guys like Collison whose been with them
His entire career. Lmfao. No way in hell that trade
Is a pure pipe dream.

collison is expiring, right?

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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12/3/2014  12:50 PM
mreinman wrote:
H1AND1 wrote:Why does OKC give up a useful piece in Collison for fukking useless Bargs? OKC has title aspirations and those kinds of teams don't trade guys like Collison whose been with them
His entire career. Lmfao. No way in hell that trade
Is a pure pipe dream.

collison is expiring, right?

Yeah, Collison, Perkins, and Bargnani are all expiring this year.

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12/3/2014  12:51 PM
VCoug wrote:
mreinman wrote:
H1AND1 wrote:Why does OKC give up a useful piece in Collison for fukking useless Bargs? OKC has title aspirations and those kinds of teams don't trade guys like Collison whose been with them
His entire career. Lmfao. No way in hell that trade
Is a pure pipe dream.

collison is expiring, right?

Yeah, Collison, Perkins, and Bargnani are all expiring this year.

yeah ... maybe we get reggie in the same trade to even it up.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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12/3/2014  12:55 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/3/2014  12:57 PM
The point for the OKC trade is actually to help Fisher the coach. Like good coaching, it is imperative to have a vet on the bench to help the young players understand what it is they are doing incorrectly. Like when Kidd and Sheed were on the bench two seasons ago. Or Kidd the coach his first year with the Nets. Without Garnett or Pierce, it would have been a train wreck in Kidd's first year.

I am not saying OKC would do the trade; I am simply highlighting the TYPE of trades that may prove to be valuable for years to come.

Veteran's leadership is a vital tool for young coaches and young players.

Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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12/3/2014  1:05 PM
Knicks1969 wrote:The point for the OKC trade is actually to help Fisher the coach. Like good coaching, it is imperative to have a vet on the bench to help the young players understand what it is they are doing incorrectly. Like when Kidd and Sheed were on the bench two seasons ago. Or Kidd the coach his first year with the Nets. Without Garnett or Pierce, it would have been a train wreck in Kidd's first year.

I am not saying OKC would do the trade; I am simply highlighting the TYPE of trades that may prove to be valuable for years to come.

Veteran's leadership is a vital tool for young coaches and young players.

Sure, that all makes total sense and is a great point. What's beside the point is suggesting a trade that isnt in the realm of reality to illustrate what you wrote above.

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12/3/2014  1:08 PM
Knicks1969 wrote:The point for the OKC trade is actually to help Fisher the coach. Like good coaching, it is imperative to have a vet on the bench to help the young players understand what it is they are doing incorrectly. Like when Kidd and Sheed were on the bench two seasons ago. Or Kidd the coach his first year with the Nets. Without Garnett or Pierce, it would have been a train wreck in Kidd's first year.

I am not saying OKC would do the trade; I am simply highlighting the TYPE of trades that may prove to be valuable for years to come.

Veteran's leadership is a vital tool for young coaches and young players.

Yes, that's what we need: Veteran Leadership. Of course, we're already the 11th oldest team in the league this season, 7th oldest last season, so maybe the issue isn't that we don't have enough veterans but that we suck.

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12/3/2014  1:09 PM
H1AND1 wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:The point for the OKC trade is actually to help Fisher the coach. Like good coaching, it is imperative to have a vet on the bench to help the young players understand what it is they are doing incorrectly. Like when Kidd and Sheed were on the bench two seasons ago. Or Kidd the coach his first year with the Nets. Without Garnett or Pierce, it would have been a train wreck in Kidd's first year.

I am not saying OKC would do the trade; I am simply highlighting the TYPE of trades that may prove to be valuable for years to come.

Veteran's leadership is a vital tool for young coaches and young players.

Sure, that all makes total sense and is a great point. What's beside the point is suggesting a trade that isnt in the realm of reality to illustrate what you wrote above.

Has that trade been proposed and rejected? Nothing is impossible in this world.

Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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12/3/2014  1:11 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/3/2014  1:12 PM
Knicks1969 wrote:
H1AND1 wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:The point for the OKC trade is actually to help Fisher the coach. Like good coaching, it is imperative to have a vet on the bench to help the young players understand what it is they are doing incorrectly. Like when Kidd and Sheed were on the bench two seasons ago. Or Kidd the coach his first year with the Nets. Without Garnett or Pierce, it would have been a train wreck in Kidd's first year.

I am not saying OKC would do the trade; I am simply highlighting the TYPE of trades that may prove to be valuable for years to come.

Veteran's leadership is a vital tool for young coaches and young players.

Sure, that all makes total sense and is a great point. What's beside the point is suggesting a trade that isnt in the realm of reality to illustrate what you wrote above.

Has that trade been proposed and rejected? Nothing is impossible in this world.

Trading Bargs without giving up a pick and getting back an actual asset or actually useful is about as close to impossible as you can get.

He straight up sukks and everyone in the league knows it.

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12/3/2014  1:17 PM
VCoug wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:The point for the OKC trade is actually to help Fisher the coach. Like good coaching, it is imperative to have a vet on the bench to help the young players understand what it is they are doing incorrectly. Like when Kidd and Sheed were on the bench two seasons ago. Or Kidd the coach his first year with the Nets. Without Garnett or Pierce, it would have been a train wreck in Kidd's first year.

I am not saying OKC would do the trade; I am simply highlighting the TYPE of trades that may prove to be valuable for years to come.

Veteran's leadership is a vital tool for young coaches and young players.

Yes, that's what we need: Veteran Leadership. Of course, we're already the 11th oldest team in the league this season, 7th oldest last season, so maybe the issue isn't that we don't have enough veterans but that we suck.

Veterans do not mean Veteran Leaders.

We don't have any Veteran Leaders and that is a huge problem.

Maybe Jose can be that eventually ...

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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12/3/2014  1:18 PM
Knicks1969 wrote:
H1AND1 wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:The point for the OKC trade is actually to help Fisher the coach. Like good coaching, it is imperative to have a vet on the bench to help the young players understand what it is they are doing incorrectly. Like when Kidd and Sheed were on the bench two seasons ago. Or Kidd the coach his first year with the Nets. Without Garnett or Pierce, it would have been a train wreck in Kidd's first year.

I am not saying OKC would do the trade; I am simply highlighting the TYPE of trades that may prove to be valuable for years to come.

Veteran's leadership is a vital tool for young coaches and young players.

Sure, that all makes total sense and is a great point. What's beside the point is suggesting a trade that isnt in the realm of reality to illustrate what you wrote above.

Has that trade been proposed and rejected? Nothing is impossible in this world.

then I propose that we trade JR for Jimmy Butler.

Fisher can use a guy like Jimmy Butler because he can help the team and help Fisher.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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12/3/2014  1:21 PM
mreinman wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:
H1AND1 wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:The point for the OKC trade is actually to help Fisher the coach. Like good coaching, it is imperative to have a vet on the bench to help the young players understand what it is they are doing incorrectly. Like when Kidd and Sheed were on the bench two seasons ago. Or Kidd the coach his first year with the Nets. Without Garnett or Pierce, it would have been a train wreck in Kidd's first year.

I am not saying OKC would do the trade; I am simply highlighting the TYPE of trades that may prove to be valuable for years to come.

Veteran's leadership is a vital tool for young coaches and young players.

Sure, that all makes total sense and is a great point. What's beside the point is suggesting a trade that isnt in the realm of reality to illustrate what you wrote above.

Has that trade been proposed and rejected? Nothing is impossible in this world.

then I propose that we trade JR for Jimmy Butler.

Fisher can use a guy like Jimmy Butler because he can help the team and help Fisher.

Ahahaahahahahh. Rotfl

Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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12/3/2014  1:28 PM
mreinman wrote:
VCoug wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:The point for the OKC trade is actually to help Fisher the coach. Like good coaching, it is imperative to have a vet on the bench to help the young players understand what it is they are doing incorrectly. Like when Kidd and Sheed were on the bench two seasons ago. Or Kidd the coach his first year with the Nets. Without Garnett or Pierce, it would have been a train wreck in Kidd's first year.

I am not saying OKC would do the trade; I am simply highlighting the TYPE of trades that may prove to be valuable for years to come.

Veteran's leadership is a vital tool for young coaches and young players.

Yes, that's what we need: Veteran Leadership. Of course, we're already the 11th oldest team in the league this season, 7th oldest last season, so maybe the issue isn't that we don't have enough veterans but that we suck.

Veterans do not mean Veteran Leaders.

We don't have any Veteran Leaders and that is a huge problem.

Maybe Jose can be that eventually ...

Jose's 35 years old, there is no more "eventually" for him. And I'd love to hear what makes Collison and Perkins veteran leaders.

Now the joy of my world is in Zion How beautiful if nothing more Than to wait at Zion's door I've never been in love like this before Now let me pray to keep you from The perils that will surely come
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12/3/2014  1:29 PM
VCoug wrote:
mreinman wrote:
VCoug wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:The point for the OKC trade is actually to help Fisher the coach. Like good coaching, it is imperative to have a vet on the bench to help the young players understand what it is they are doing incorrectly. Like when Kidd and Sheed were on the bench two seasons ago. Or Kidd the coach his first year with the Nets. Without Garnett or Pierce, it would have been a train wreck in Kidd's first year.

I am not saying OKC would do the trade; I am simply highlighting the TYPE of trades that may prove to be valuable for years to come.

Veteran's leadership is a vital tool for young coaches and young players.

Yes, that's what we need: Veteran Leadership. Of course, we're already the 11th oldest team in the league this season, 7th oldest last season, so maybe the issue isn't that we don't have enough veterans but that we suck.

Veterans do not mean Veteran Leaders.

We don't have any Veteran Leaders and that is a huge problem.

Maybe Jose can be that eventually ...

Jose's 35 years old, there is no more "eventually" for him. And I'd love to hear what makes Collison and Perkins veteran leaders.

Jose may be that this year ... not sure that he is the guy.

Collison leads by example. Perfect veteran. Not sure how vocal he is.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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12/3/2014  1:34 PM
NYKBocker wrote:Hornets are looking for wing and PF upgrade. Not sure if Shump and or JR fits that bill.

They might be, the way lance is playing. Lance without a J is Vincent Askew, a nice role player off the bench. Even his free throw shooting is down. Those are things that have nothing to do with Kemba Walker. You have to wonder if stopped working on his game this summer while waiting to sign a big deal.
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A TRADE OF SHUMP AND AMARE FOR (BORN READY) STEPHENSON

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