TripleThreat wrote:knicks1248 wrote:The odds of drafting a really good player who will have an immediate impact, and won't break down as soon as someone breath's on them, is enormous, you can't deny this,and if you do, then your living in denial.
I don't think I've ever read anyone on here that has said the NBA draft is a stone cold lock. I think it's pretty clear it's a giant crapshoot.
That being said, even with draft misses, what choice do team have?
Missing on picks is part of the process. That being said, all the strong teams in the NBA were built through the draft or through the moving of draft assets that were developed. ( That's a different story than just trading picks raw)
http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/GSW/draft.html
The Warriors could have cashed it in and just started selling picks after a four year stretch of Joe Smith, Todd Fuller, Cliff Rozier and Adonal Foyle. However, sometimes you are going to miss and miss ugly, but it's still a better odds move than hoping you can beg the once in a every decade true impact free agent to come to your city.
The Warriors got Draymond Green with the 35th overall pick in 2012.
Klay Thompson was the 11th pick in his draft. Stephen Curry was the 7th pick in his draft. The Warriors converted former 2nd rounder ( 40th overall) Monta Ellis into their current defensive pivot in Bogut. Even without a top three pick, not having one in the last decade, the Warriors held the course and rebuilt.
Every contender shows the same story. Strong mining in the 2nd round. Good value grabs in the late first. Good trades using players developed and moved in a "sell high" fashion for other valuable assets.
As for this "cap space" issue, there is no guarantee that these teams will get that giant cap space infusion all at once. Multiple sources and even the players union head is talking about a "smoothing" option, which would raise the cap incrementally over a period of years, so a one time shot in the arm doesn't disbalance the league too much at once.
The NBA Draft is a crapshoot, however it is a better odds path than just about every other scenario to rebuilding a team.
You can't however have the draft possibly help you if you keep jettisoning your picks and never put your hat in that ring in the first place.
The Detroit Lions under Matt Millen drafted three WRs in a row in the first round, each turning into a bust. When he got canned, the new regime faced the reality that the best player likely to be available to them was also a WR. The "easy" thing to do would be trade the pick, or pick a different player, so as not to continue a bad legacy. Except, at some point, you can't win unless you roll the dice.
The player they selected, despite knowing the backlash that might come, was Calvin Johnson, who is a very likely to be a future HOF wide receiver.
If the Knicks blow their 2015 pick and grab the wrong player who can't help them, then so what. It will suck. But at least they tried to build their team the right way and tried to start somewhere. Did you know that 90 percent of morbidly obese people, if they are one of the few that manage to get down to a healthy weight will likely regain all of that weight back? That's a statistical reality. However, would you rather they kept trying and hit the treadmill or just say "Fuck it", and shovel ice cream in their face until they dropped dead? Just because the odds are low doesn't mean the process is altogether worthless.
Have you seen the movie, Say Anything?
"No one thinks we are going to make it, do they?" - Diane Court
"You've just described every great success story." - Lloyd Dobbler
Bammm! Nice post.
The 2015 NBA draft is on June 25th and the Free Agency date is July 1st.
Should we land a top 3 pick we have a very very good chance of becoming A LOT more attractive to a Marquee player.
Wost case is that it is an INCREDIBLY valuable pick and though I want to keep it, it could also be something to nab a star (who might walk from their team in F.A. at the end of the year.) Sort of like how Love got to Cleveland.
I would sit with any of the top ranked centers though, looks like Franchise talentthere. Judging by our past ineptitude with trading picks, I think there is pressure on the front office not to move this pick (not that they care.)
11/21/2014 4:11 PM