gunsnewing wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:we might be witnessing the worst possible outcome of the whole 5yr Phil, Melo & Fisher era and we are only 6 games into year 1

Six games and this is a done deal?

Did you expect a quick fix?

No just for the $124mil 5yr man to lead and be the main contributor to leading the team towards a new culture of professionalism

Not abort the ship after a handful of games

Come on now

gunsnewing wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:we might be witnessing the worst possible outcome of the whole 5yr Phil, Melo & Fisher era and we are only 6 games into year 1

Six games and this is a done deal?

Did you expect a quick fix?

No just for the $124mil 5yr man to lead and be the main contributor to leading the team towards a new culture of professionalism

Not abort the ship after a handful of games

gunsnewing wrote:how many games has it been since he came in Feb 2011?

I've seen enough

Splat wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Someone should post a picture of the hat Melo wore during his post game interview

really put a cap on the whole night

Ha ha!

magicTs wrote:Absolute arseholes the lot of them. At least earn the right to wear what you want however idiotic you look by playing good ball and winning some games. Their collective attitude is a complete embarrassment, they simply don't care.

The most bizarre frustration statement I've read in a while!

gunsnewing wrote:its scary to think we are going to panic and abandon system basketball in favor of Meloball.

and there is nothing we can do for 5yrs!!!

$124mil no trade claus!

Uptown wrote:

Nalod wrote:What part does "rebuilding year" does some of you not get?
Building a culture does not include "Panic".
2-1 and Phil says he surprised. Get it now?

Figures that everyone would ignore this post......We are in full rebuild mode. Melo is the only player on this roster that starts for the majority of NBA teams....Some of these guys are 8th or 9th men off the bench (for good teams) while the rest who are getting playing time for us would be collecting DNP's

if it's a full rebuild then that speaks volumes about melo.

dk7th wrote:

Uptown wrote:

Nalod wrote:What part does "rebuilding year" does some of you not get?
Building a culture does not include "Panic".
2-1 and Phil says he surprised. Get it now?

Figures that everyone would ignore this post......We are in full rebuild mode. Melo is the only player on this roster that starts for the majority of NBA teams....Some of these guys are 8th or 9th men off the bench (for good teams) while the rest who are getting playing time for us would be collecting DNP's

if it's a full rebuild then that speaks volumes about melo.

It sure does...Like Kobe, its hard to win games when your surrounded my average to below average players...

DISCLAIMER!!!!(((( I AM Not Comparing Melo and Kobe as Players...Just their Situations)))!!!

Regarding the team, yeah, we suck pretty bad but our starting PG is still out and and that other injured terrible of a trade player is out also. I do think we are playing worse than we actually are.
Don't get me wrong, I want a lotto pick, no two ways about it. But realistically, I can't see us playing quite this bad once we have Bargs and Jose back. That will still take time...

Come on lotto pick...

Uptown wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Tell me uptown. What do you see in Melo's play?

Melo is in a bad shooting slump right now. He's always been up and down with his shooting as we've all witnessed over the years since he's been a Knick. He can run hot and cold which is the norm for players that shoot around 46% for their careers. Melo is a scorer, and has a scorer's mentality similar to Dominique, Ice Man, and Kobe to extent. Meaning that when's he's off, he feels his next shot is going in, so his solution is to shoot his way out of a slump. Can it be frustrating at times? Yes? But, we ALL Knew This we he put on the Blue and Orange. Phil Knew this when he offered him that contract. He's a scorer. (Period)

We can definitely win with a scorer like Melo, as Phil said, the Players around Melo need to change... When Melo is off, we do not have any fall back options. When Pre-Injury D Rose was off, The Bulls had their gritty defense to fall back on....We do not! When Prime Kobe was off, The Lake Show had Shaq to fall back on, we do not have a second starter on this team right now, let alone a second all star.....

The Triangle ain't gonna save the lack of talent up and down this roster. Melo like 3/4's pf the team is still out of sync trying to run the Triangle. Too much thinking out there and not enough reacting...The movements seem robotic at times (which again shows that they are thinking too much)...which leads to lack of hard cuts because they are still not sure....It'll take a lot more time, but even if and when its running like a well-oiled-machine, in the end the lack of talent ain't gonna cut it.....

The dude is just standing in the middle of the court like a sleeping robot much of the time. Only when he is fed the ball does he seem to care right now. Melo's off the ball movement is often non-existent in recent games.

Splat wrote:

Uptown wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Tell me uptown. What do you see in Melo's play?

Melo is in a bad shooting slump right now. He's always been up and down with his shooting as we've all witnessed over the years since he's been a Knick. He can run hot and cold which is the norm for players that shoot around 46% for their careers. Melo is a scorer, and has a scorer's mentality similar to Dominique, Ice Man, and Kobe to extent. Meaning that when's he's off, he feels his next shot is going in, so his solution is to shoot his way out of a slump. Can it be frustrating at times? Yes? But, we ALL Knew This we he put on the Blue and Orange. Phil Knew this when he offered him that contract. He's a scorer. (Period)

We can definitely win with a scorer like Melo, as Phil said, the Players around Melo need to change... When Melo is off, we do not have any fall back options. When Pre-Injury D Rose was off, The Bulls had their gritty defense to fall back on....We do not! When Prime Kobe was off, The Lake Show had Shaq to fall back on, we do not have a second starter on this team right now, let alone a second all star.....

The Triangle ain't gonna save the lack of talent up and down this roster. Melo like 3/4's pf the team is still out of sync trying to run the Triangle. Too much thinking out there and not enough reacting...The movements seem robotic at times (which again shows that they are thinking too much)...which leads to lack of hard cuts because they are still not sure....It'll take a lot more time, but even if and when its running like a well-oiled-machine, in the end the lack of talent ain't gonna cut it.....

The dude is just standing in the middle of the court like a sleeping robot much of the time. Only when he is fed the ball does he seem to care right now. Melo's off the ball movement is often non-existent in recent games.

I was unable to catch last nights game due to a game that I was coaching last night. I will definitely catch tonight's game and will watch Melo's off the ball movements, etc. Several years ago, my team ran a simpler version of the triangle so I know what it looks like when its run well....