smackeddog wrote:

H1AND1 wrote:The SCHOENE model has them winning 32 games. Less than last year as well.

I was impressed that the computer last year foresaw Tyson's injury, and the quitting on the coach- even guessed that we'd have a rally at the end of the season! Remind me what else Schooner predicted regarding other teams not called The Knicks? Oh thats right, it was pretty much wrong. (not having a go at you, just the computer!).

Like in life, physics and basketball, you can't create an all knowing, future predicting computer because there are too many variables, and the greater number of variables you include, the greater the degree of chaos created due to the creation of more variables to take into account.

F500ONE wrote:

dk7th wrote:i am sticking with 35 wins, and i admit that it is based on emotion. first, i "have faith" in derek fisher's leadership ability. the better coaches are leaders and i think that has to count for a few extra games. my win total is also spurred by a sort of "desperation by proxy," ie. the knicks HAVE TO do well enough this season to be an appealing destination, or their overarching plan is crippled.

My question to you have you examined the league

And identified the better coaches

Side question here, had Phil not whiffed on Kerr

Would your coaching emotional opinion stick

We have a rookie coach. There's really no way to know who's better and who's worse

F500ONE wrote:

dk7th wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

dk7th wrote:i am sticking with 35 wins, and i admit that it is based on emotion. first, i "have faith" in derek fisher's leadership ability. the better coaches are leaders and i think that has to count for a few extra games. my win total is also spurred by a sort of "desperation by proxy," ie. the knicks HAVE TO do well enough this season to be an appealing destination, or their overarching plan is crippled.

My question to you have you examined the league

And identified the better coaches

Side question here, had Phil not whiffed on Kerr

Would your coaching emotional opinion stick

no i haven't identified the better coaches. my top 3, though, are popovich, doc rivers, and thibidaux. they share the ability to motivate their players. i think is sense or see the same ability in fisher. no, he doesn't have the talent and leadership of a noah, paul, or duncan as a partner.

i think kerr would have been fine here, but i am not so sure of his ability to motivate.

Well the reason I ask to have even a

Goliath's shot against David with this team

Fisher would have to be clearly in the upper half

Of the better coaching leaders for this team

I don't see it, I see Fisher being able to groom

Players as time goes by, but thus far

Smith-Melo-Stat-Shump-THJR look like the same ole players

Nor do I see Fisher getting the absolute most out of this roster

i haven't seen the team play, i suppose i am too busy to watch preseason games, and frankly i have been lukewarm because i know the defense was going to be the achilles heel for this group.

that's where coaching comes in. thibidaux gets his guys to give their all on the defensive end. if fisher can't get this group to do the same i will be able to see that right away and adjust my attitude towards fisher accordingly.

defense is about heart and pride and the desire to demoralize the opponent.

dk7th wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

dk7th wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

dk7th wrote:i am sticking with 35 wins, and i admit that it is based on emotion. first, i "have faith" in derek fisher's leadership ability. the better coaches are leaders and i think that has to count for a few extra games. my win total is also spurred by a sort of "desperation by proxy," ie. the knicks HAVE TO do well enough this season to be an appealing destination, or their overarching plan is crippled.

My question to you have you examined the league

And identified the better coaches

Side question here, had Phil not whiffed on Kerr

Would your coaching emotional opinion stick

no i haven't identified the better coaches. my top 3, though, are popovich, doc rivers, and thibidaux. they share the ability to motivate their players. i think is sense or see the same ability in fisher. no, he doesn't have the talent and leadership of a noah, paul, or duncan as a partner.

i think kerr would have been fine here, but i am not so sure of his ability to motivate.

Well the reason I ask to have even a

Goliath's shot against David with this team

Fisher would have to be clearly in the upper half

Of the better coaching leaders for this team

I don't see it, I see Fisher being able to groom

Players as time goes by, but thus far

Smith-Melo-Stat-Shump-THJR look like the same ole players

Nor do I see Fisher getting the absolute most out of this roster

i haven't seen the team play, i suppose i am too busy to watch preseason games, and frankly i have been lukewarm because i know the defense was going to be the achilles heel for this group.

that's where coaching comes in. thibidaux gets his guys to give their all on the defensive end. if fisher can't get this group to do the same i will be able to see that right away and adjust my attitude towards fisher accordingly.

defense is about heart and pride and the desire to demoralize the opponent.

Noah's game is about having a great motor and defensive effort! Not all things can be taught. Gibson at the PF also a very good interior player. Thibs is an excellent coach and his teams play great defense because the roster was constructed in synch with the type of ball they want to play.

Our best players are not known for their defensive prowess. Im not hating, im just not using Thibs as the golden standard for our team whose still in the first trimester of the its cultural revolution and rebuild.

F500ONE wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

jrodmc wrote:And if we go 8-2 with inexplicable wins early on, will it be "fools gold"? You betcha!

The 54 win team wasn't even precious metals worthy

more "Fools Iron" when you saw through the fake hustle

And if the 54 win team was a recipe for winning then

No Stat and No Shumpert with Calderon and Daly playing near MVP caliber roles

U don't accidentally win 54 games. Thats a lot of games won, it was a good team just to old. Kidd and Sheed were perfect players to have around Melo. As usual though we got them way to late in there careers.

Only on the UK can 54 wins be explained away by "fake hustle".

Next up: Melo's "fake points" "mirage rebounding" "invisible assists"

Of course it was "fake hustle" easily seen if all mental faculties were working

Not my fault you couldn't see through the veneer of it's 15min of fame

How we played wasn't sustainable and neither was the roster

Hence when we lost the Social Security check collectors

The walls came a tumblin down///// the walls came a tumblin tumblin

VCoug wrote:31 wins might be generous

Sad but the computer is probably right.