NardDogNation wrote:

knickscity wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

knickscity wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Teams with Melo have to play well enough to make helpful other players want to come

I think that goes for pretty much everyone.

Not everyone. For instance...the Bulls have little issue atracting quality players even with the health concerns of their best player.

Love doesnt have a desire to go to the Cavs before lebron went back...neither does Shawn Marion.

The only players that seem to be attracted to play with melo so far are former Nuggets whom he's already struggled with.

There never was anyone in his Black Book

Because no one likes to play with Black Holes

Hopefully Phil proves to change the Melo Hex

Yup, even his bff Chris Paul denied the ride....even went as far as even denying interest.

...CP3 was traded to the Clippers, he didn't sign with them. Had he been a free agent and all things were even, I think he definitely would've been a Knick.

F500ONE wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

knickscity wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

knickscity wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Teams with Melo have to play well enough to make helpful other players want to come

I think that goes for pretty much everyone.

Not everyone. For instance...the Bulls have little issue atracting quality players even with the health concerns of their best player.

Love doesnt have a desire to go to the Cavs before lebron went back...neither does Shawn Marion.

The only players that seem to be attracted to play with melo so far are former Nuggets whom he's already struggled with.

There never was anyone in his Black Book

Because no one likes to play with Black Holes

Hopefully Phil proves to change the Melo Hex

Yup, even his bff Chris Paul denied the ride....even went as far as even denying interest.

...CP3 was traded to the Clippers, he didn't sign with them. Had he been a free agent and all things were even, I think he definitely would've been a Knick.

No he and Dwight Howard were making plans

right around 2009, take a guess who they wanted to play with

NardDogNation wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

knickscity wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

knickscity wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Teams with Melo have to play well enough to make helpful other players want to come

I think that goes for pretty much everyone.

Not everyone. For instance...the Bulls have little issue atracting quality players even with the health concerns of their best player.

Love doesnt have a desire to go to the Cavs before lebron went back...neither does Shawn Marion.

The only players that seem to be attracted to play with melo so far are former Nuggets whom he's already struggled with.

There never was anyone in his Black Book

Because no one likes to play with Black Holes

Hopefully Phil proves to change the Melo Hex

Yup, even his bff Chris Paul denied the ride....even went as far as even denying interest.

...CP3 was traded to the Clippers, he didn't sign with them. Had he been a free agent and all things were even, I think he definitely would've been a Knick.

No he and Dwight Howard were making plans

right around 2009, take a guess who they wanted to play with

...but the landscape changed considerably in 2010 for obvious reasons. Last I checked, CP3 wasn't making wedding toasts to a big 3 in Orlando. He was doing so with New York, while in New York, which already had Amare....all at Melo's wedding.

Toasting on a Love Boat gotcha neck style?

Come on Man/////Better off buying Chinese Food

And believing what's in the fortune cookie

http://www.si.com/nba/point-forward/2012/11/02/dwight-howard-chris-paul-mavericks-lakers-clippers

Notice article is written 2012 but reflects

On what their plans were prior to

Yahoo! Sports reports that Paul and Howard, both members of the 2008 Olympics gold medal-winning USA Basketball team, had discussed teaming up in the NBA since 2009. According to the report, they had eyed Mark Cuban's Dallas Mavericks as a possible destination for joining forces after Howard failed to recruit Paul to the Magic and Paul failed to recruit Howard to the Hornets.

"I tried to get him to come to New Orleans," Paul told Yahoo! Sports. "It was back and forth, here and there."

...

Sources close to both players said Howard and Paul settled on the Dallas Mavericks as an ideal destination, knowing owner Mark Cuban had the means to clear salary-cap space for them. The Mavericks explored trades for both players, but didn't have attractive enough assets to make a deal. And while Howard and Paul could have become unrestricted free agents in the summer of 2012 by opting out of their contracts, neither exhibited the patience to make such a plan feasible.

Paul was all in for joining the Mavericks as a free agent in 2012, but he wanted a commitment Howard also had interest, sources said. Howard, however, remained indecisive about his future in Orlando and wasn't ready to commit to Paul. Frustrated, Paul eventually grew tired of waiting on Howard, gave up on the Dallas plan and asked the Hornets for a trade.

...

"We always wanted to play together," Howard said of Paul. "It didn't happen that way."

Sorry their colluded plans involved

Teaming up with this special player

NardDogNation wrote:

knickscity wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

knickscity wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

knickscity wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Teams with Melo have to play well enough to make helpful other players want to come

I think that goes for pretty much everyone.

Not everyone. For instance...the Bulls have little issue atracting quality players even with the health concerns of their best player.

Love doesnt have a desire to go to the Cavs before lebron went back...neither does Shawn Marion.

The only players that seem to be attracted to play with melo so far are former Nuggets whom he's already struggled with.

There never was anyone in his Black Book

Because no one likes to play with Black Holes

Hopefully Phil proves to change the Melo Hex

Yup, even his bff Chris Paul denied the ride....even went as far as even denying interest.

...CP3 was traded to the Clippers, he didn't sign with them. Had he been a free agent and all things were even, I think he definitely would've been a Knick.

When was Melo a free agent? If Chris Paul wanted to be with melo he could have attempted to take the same route. He never attempted, but yet denied it all.

He never pushed the issue because he knew the Hornets(/Pelicans) couldn't indulge him. The Knicks surrendered every asset it had in the Melo deal save for Landry Fields, who quickly fizzled out soon thereafter. CP3's interest in NY was pretty evident though; he articulated as much at Melo's wedding.

Since when does a player look at a teams assets before demanding a trade?

knickscity wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

knickscity wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

knickscity wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

knickscity wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Teams with Melo have to play well enough to make helpful other players want to come

I think that goes for pretty much everyone.

Not everyone. For instance...the Bulls have little issue atracting quality players even with the health concerns of their best player.

Love doesnt have a desire to go to the Cavs before lebron went back...neither does Shawn Marion.

The only players that seem to be attracted to play with melo so far are former Nuggets whom he's already struggled with.

There never was anyone in his Black Book

Because no one likes to play with Black Holes

Hopefully Phil proves to change the Melo Hex

Yup, even his bff Chris Paul denied the ride....even went as far as even denying interest.

...CP3 was traded to the Clippers, he didn't sign with them. Had he been a free agent and all things were even, I think he definitely would've been a Knick.

When was Melo a free agent? If Chris Paul wanted to be with melo he could have attempted to take the same route. He never attempted, but yet denied it all.

He never pushed the issue because he knew the Hornets(/Pelicans) couldn't indulge him. The Knicks surrendered every asset it had in the Melo deal save for Landry Fields, who quickly fizzled out soon thereafter. CP3's interest in NY was pretty evident though; he articulated as much at Melo's wedding.

Articulated? He said a toast, most folks are drunk when they say such things. Paul had zero interest in joining melo. We didnt even have the assets to get Melo, he wanted to be here and Denver had to take what they could.

Since when does a player look at a teams assets before demanding a trade?

All of them do.

As for CP3, a drunk speaks a sober heart.

NardDogNation wrote:

knickscity wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

knickscity wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

knickscity wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

knickscity wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Teams with Melo have to play well enough to make helpful other players want to come

I think that goes for pretty much everyone.

Not everyone. For instance...the Bulls have little issue atracting quality players even with the health concerns of their best player.

Love doesnt have a desire to go to the Cavs before lebron went back...neither does Shawn Marion.

The only players that seem to be attracted to play with melo so far are former Nuggets whom he's already struggled with.

There never was anyone in his Black Book

Because no one likes to play with Black Holes

Hopefully Phil proves to change the Melo Hex

Yup, even his bff Chris Paul denied the ride....even went as far as even denying interest.

...CP3 was traded to the Clippers, he didn't sign with them. Had he been a free agent and all things were even, I think he definitely would've been a Knick.

When was Melo a free agent? If Chris Paul wanted to be with melo he could have attempted to take the same route. He never attempted, but yet denied it all.

He never pushed the issue because he knew the Hornets(/Pelicans) couldn't indulge him. The Knicks surrendered every asset it had in the Melo deal save for Landry Fields, who quickly fizzled out soon thereafter. CP3's interest in NY was pretty evident though; he articulated as much at Melo's wedding.

Articulated? He said a toast, most folks are drunk when they say such things. Paul had zero interest in joining melo. We didnt even have the assets to get Melo, he wanted to be here and Denver had to take what they could.

Since when does a player look at a teams assets before demanding a trade?

All of them do.

As for CP3, a drunk speaks a sober heart.

da fuq?

NardDogNation wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

knickscity wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

knickscity wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

knickscity wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Teams with Melo have to play well enough to make helpful other players want to come

I think that goes for pretty much everyone.

Not everyone. For instance...the Bulls have little issue atracting quality players even with the health concerns of their best player.

Love doesnt have a desire to go to the Cavs before lebron went back...neither does Shawn Marion.

The only players that seem to be attracted to play with melo so far are former Nuggets whom he's already struggled with.

There hasn't been a year since he has been in NY that the Knicks had more to offer then the mini mid level. There maybe some mini mid level guys that chose other situations but I don't think that is a long list.

Cap space isnt the only way to attract players. if they want to be here they'll make a a way. Even melo wasnt acquired via cap space.

That usually involves trades, salaries and picks no? The Knicks don't have many guys on good or moveable deals and the Walsh and Thomas administrations traded away a ton of picks.

Of course, but we've seen plenty of deals get done with minimal assets. the Knicks still wont have many assets even next year...only cap space.

Hopefully the Knicks/Sixers deal for Amare goes down at the deadline and the Knicks get a pick or two back.

I still don't get Philly's incentive for making the deal without us giving up additional assets, which negates the value of moving Amare in the first place. Even if they don't meet the minimum salary floor, all that happens is that the difference gets divided up by the remaining players on the roster. Similarly, I don't see the incentive in the Knicks dumping Amare at this point because there would be nothing we could do with his vacated contract and would have cap space next season anyway.

From Steve Kyler:
“What’s far more likely is that the long-rumored Amar’e Stoudemire to Philadelphia deal gets done at the deadline. The Sixers take on Stoudemire’s $23 million salary cap number, which pushes them way over the minimum [salary floor]. They would only owe him roughly 30 percent of his remaining contract, so they’d end up paying him $7 million in cash and likely extract a draft pick or a rookie scale player for their troubles.”

Read more at http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/sports/sixers/Amare-Stoudemire-to-Sixers-trade-is-still-possible-.html#raxlmLL1SiEqVmgo.99

F500ONE wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:I'll defer to CP3s own words and not some reporter who never confirmed any of his comments with Paul.

Did you post the source to his own words

If you haven't you have my blessing to do so

Dollars to Donuts your source will read

Similar or extremely vague compared to what I posted

I've found one of my own but

I'll concede to yours and see if you can best it

Wojo is a pretty potent source in the BBall world

http://nypost.com/2010/07/12/paul-toasts-knicks-future-dream-team-with-stoudemire-anthony/

NardDogNation wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:I'll defer to CP3s own words and not some reporter who never confirmed any of his comments with Paul.

Did you post the source to his own words

If you haven't you have my blessing to do so

Dollars to Donuts your source will read

Similar or extremely vague compared to what I posted

I've found one of my own but

I'll concede to yours and see if you can best it

Wojo is a pretty potent source in the BBall world

http://nypost.com/2010/07/12/paul-toasts-knicks-future-dream-team-with-stoudemire-anthony/

NardDogNation wrote:

knickscity wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

knickscity wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

knickscity wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Teams with Melo have to play well enough to make helpful other players want to come

I think that goes for pretty much everyone.

Not everyone. For instance...the Bulls have little issue atracting quality players even with the health concerns of their best player.

Love doesnt have a desire to go to the Cavs before lebron went back...neither does Shawn Marion.

The only players that seem to be attracted to play with melo so far are former Nuggets whom he's already struggled with.

There never was anyone in his Black Book

Because no one likes to play with Black Holes

Hopefully Phil proves to change the Melo Hex

Yup, even his bff Chris Paul denied the ride....even went as far as even denying interest.

...CP3 was traded to the Clippers, he didn't sign with them. Had he been a free agent and all things were even, I think he definitely would've been a Knick.

No he and Dwight Howard were making plans

right around 2009, take a guess who they wanted to play with

...but the landscape changed considerably in 2010 for obvious reasons. Last I checked, CP3 wasn't making wedding toasts to a big 3 in Orlando. He was doing so with New York, while in New York, which already had Amare....all at Melo's wedding.

Toasting on a Love Boat gotcha neck style?

Come on Man/////Better off buying Chinese Food

And believing what's in the fortune cookie

http://www.si.com/nba/point-forward/2012/11/02/dwight-howard-chris-paul-mavericks-lakers-clippers

Notice article is written 2012 but reflects

On what their plans were prior to

Yahoo! Sports reports that Paul and Howard, both members of the 2008 Olympics gold medal-winning USA Basketball team, had discussed teaming up in the NBA since 2009. According to the report, they had eyed Mark Cuban's Dallas Mavericks as a possible destination for joining forces after Howard failed to recruit Paul to the Magic and Paul failed to recruit Howard to the Hornets.

"I tried to get him to come to New Orleans," Paul told Yahoo! Sports. "It was back and forth, here and there."

...

Sources close to both players said Howard and Paul settled on the Dallas Mavericks as an ideal destination, knowing owner Mark Cuban had the means to clear salary-cap space for them. The Mavericks explored trades for both players, but didn't have attractive enough assets to make a deal. And while Howard and Paul could have become unrestricted free agents in the summer of 2012 by opting out of their contracts, neither exhibited the patience to make such a plan feasible.

Paul was all in for joining the Mavericks as a free agent in 2012, but he wanted a commitment Howard also had interest, sources said. Howard, however, remained indecisive about his future in Orlando and wasn't ready to commit to Paul. Frustrated, Paul eventually grew tired of waiting on Howard, gave up on the Dallas plan and asked the Hornets for a trade.

...

"We always wanted to play together," Howard said of Paul. "It didn't happen that way."

Sorry their colluded plans involved

Teaming up with this special player

I'll defer to CP3s own words and not some reporter who never confirmed any of his comments with Paul.

How did you come to hear about "the toast"? Were you there?

but if words are what ya want, here ya go.....

Explain to me how this proves anything. Those are the same generic answers that any and every player uses when plotting their exit.