RonRon wrote:nixluva wrote:H1AND1 wrote:Jmpasq wrote:BRIGGS wrote:We need the froncourt players to stay relatively healthy and for Bargs and Amare to score well/yet also defend their positions the best they have in their careres
We need the three intermediate wings Iman Shumpert THJ and J R Smith to be at their best and make nightly impacts JR can do it he's proven he can. The others need to prove
We need to reduce PT on Melo but still expect 23-24 points with 4-5 assists and 6-7 rebounds.
The PG group needs to help facilitate and make their shots--Larkin can be a spark athletic PG type off the bench.
Bargs and Amare to score well/yet also defend their positions the best they have in their careres, wouldnt both have to defend centers then? Is there minutes for that? I'm still trying to figure out how the Knicks can give both of these guys 20+ minutes and still field a team that can win. Im not sure thats possible
Bargs has been a net negative his entire career, even the seasons he scored 20+ PPG. Im not holding my breath and he should get 0 minutes per game barring a Zen master induced miracle on the court.
Seems to me that the way you make i work is to have a solid defensive player on the court with Amar'e or Bargs. You don't want to put them on the court at the same time. Bargs/Jason or Amar'e/Dalembert can work. The best minutes Bargs had were with KMart and one lineup with just him and with Shump at SF with JR. It only shows that it's possible for a coach to find a lineup that works with Bargs in it.
3 C. Anthony | A. Bargnani | R. Felton | K. Martin | I. Shumpert 145:51 +7.0
6 C. Anthony | A. Bargnani | R. Felton | I. Shumpert | J. Smith 126:11 +10.8
both show AB at Center and NOT PF
Which I always believed he was best utilized at C and useless at PF without an athletic/mobile/versatile BIG
ONE showing CA at PF and NOT SF
While I believe PF was his best position, he may prove me wrong with this weight loss
and
ACCEPT a system/role and willingless TO CHANGE HIS WAYS
ONE showing Kmart
Kmart is the PF, PF/C that is mobile/athletic (still despite his age and is a good 1v1 defender but undersized, though a good help defender, and a under rated PnR player and PASSER
Now go back to the chicken and egg, can we play with a C that cannot rebound with consistency
and/or
CA at PF when he is not a shot blocker, horrible HELP defender/ average 1v1 defender at best when committed
When at SF, he lacks the quickness to defend shooters, and even worse on talents that could shoot and penetrate off the drible, hoping his weight loss changes this
I don't care whether it is on DEF or OFF, it should never be played upon 1-2 or even just 3 players, it is a losing recipe
ALL 5 players must be threats on both ends, especially on DEF, though one may be weaker
However, on OFF, 3 players can be used to
INITIATE an OFFENSE, as the other 2 are FILL INS/ROLE PLAYERS, PLAYING off the other 3 talents, THUS THE TRIANGLE
We don't have a SHAQ, Jordan, Pippen, or even Kobe, DOMINANT scorers that can score in high % shots with consistency to initiate our OFFENSE
While CA can have great games, he is far from "DOMINCANT"
The ability to play ON and OFF the ball are both needed on these roles, with the ability/willingless to read the opponents DEF and attack together, as well as recoginzing the more favoritable match ups
To get away with Bargs at the 5 wouldnt u need a pogo stick 4 that can defend rebound and block shots, wheres that guy on the Knicks, he doesnt exist
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