gunsnewing wrote:

mreinman wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:He seems to think New Yorkers are as dumb as he is

Excited to see this low IQ inefficient chucker lead this team. KISM keep it simple Melo. Passing is too complicated

He may say dumb things and do things you don't like but repeatedly stating that he is inefficient is just wrong. I am not sure that you understand what that means /////

Oh I know what it means. Melos postseason shooting is atrocious and when he isn't facing weaker teams in the regular season

oh ... you talkin about playoffs

Do you have stats to show that he is atrocious (efficiency) against the non-weak teams? I have not seen this.

"but he has improved as a knick!"

no he hasn't, not in the two FULL seasons where he played AND made the playoffs:

2012 he went from 52.5 in the regular season down to 48.9-- this is a 3.6% falloff and spells failure
2013 he went from 56.0 in the regular season down to 49.7-- this is just a straight up abomination

"he didn't have enough help and his coach sucked"

it's never melo's fault.

You can't have a new culture when the centerpiece of your franchise consistently lies on national media. I hate selfish pricks and I hate hypocrites and liars even more. this guy manages to be all three.

dk7th wrote:his TS% in the regular season is 54.7% which is unacceptable if you are touted as an elite scorer
his TS% for the playoffs sink to 51.3% which is unacceptable no matter how you slice it

"but he has improved as a knick!"

no he hasn't, not in the two FULL seasons where he played AND made the playoffs:

2012 he went from 52.5 in the regular season down to 48.9-- this is a 3.6% falloff and spells failure
2013 he went from 56.0 in the regular season down to 49.7-- this is just a straight up abomination

"he didn't have enough help and his coach sucked"

it's never melo's fault.

Hey... but he drops buckets... not some boring freaking Dunkin...

nixluva wrote:All that matters is how Melo and the team performs from here on. It's a new day, new leadership and new culture!!! I could care less what Melo says in relation to his contract. I care how he feels about the team, Coach and GM. We need to see how this all comes together. I don't see Melo not buying in to the new culture Fish and Phil are creating here. He has no reason to resist since this system is going to be based on doing things he's already great at doing. It should make him a more efficient player along with a more efficient team. Sure his comments are a bit phony. Lots of players make similar kinds of comments. In the end it's meaningless.

dk7th wrote:

nixluva wrote:All that matters is how Melo and the team performs from here on. It's a new day, new leadership and new culture!!! I could care less what Melo says in relation to his contract. I care how he feels about the team, Coach and GM. We need to see how this all comes together. I don't see Melo not buying in to the new culture Fish and Phil are creating here. He has no reason to resist since this system is going to be based on doing things he's already great at doing. It should make him a more efficient player along with a more efficient team. Sure his comments are a bit phony. Lots of players make similar kinds of comments. In the end it's meaningless.

"in the end" how would you know it's meaningless? that's the tail wagging the dog, my friend.

CrushAlot wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

dk7th wrote:his TS% in the regular season is 54.7% which is unacceptable if you are touted as an elite scorer
his TS% for the playoffs sink to 51.3% which is unacceptable no matter how you slice it

"but he has improved as a knick!"

no he hasn't, not in the two FULL seasons where he played AND made the playoffs:

2012 he went from 52.5 in the regular season down to 48.9-- this is a 3.6% falloff and spells failure
2013 he went from 56.0 in the regular season down to 49.7-- this is just a straight up abomination

"he didn't have enough help and his coach sucked"

it's never melo's fault.

And the sad part is they will still be saying he doesn't have the players because he took damn near max money. Won't have high draft picks either

That's not true. The sad part is that there is 35 million committed this year to two guys that can't play and that puts the Knicks well over the cap. That changes next year.

I contend that even STAT and Bargs can be positive contributors this last contract year under LEGIT LEADERSHIP. Phil and Fish have a better plan for this team and I think they can get more out of this teams players. If this team is in the playoffs and playing better BB that's really all that matters. I want to see Melo playing team oriented ball.

The Triangle doesn't even demand anything different from Melo because even if he plays exactly the same the REST of the team will be playing in the Triangle and running the offense as intended. That will help Melo by default. This is about DFish coaching and Phil building the roster to have balance and potency. Melo just helps to make it all more impactful. I think we'll see more of "Olympic Melo" in this offense. The plays lead to more scoring in the flow. Woody's offense did not and MDA's offense was too PG driven for Melo. This offense is NOT PG driven like MDA's and it's not stagnant like Woody's. This is why I have a very good feeling for this team's chances this season.

F500ONE wrote:Knicks have made offer for Kevin Love

http://m.us.wsj.com/articles/source-knicks-made-offer-for-kevin-love-timberwolves-balked-1406329327?mobile=y&KEYWORDS=Chris%20herring

Amar'e-Shumpert-Hardaway

If true I wonder how this will effect them, specially Amar'e since he's been in several attempted trades since last year.

F500ONE wrote:Knicks have made offer for Kevin Love

http://m.us.wsj.com/articles/source-knicks-made-offer-for-kevin-love-timberwolves-balked-1406329327?mobile=y&KEYWORDS=Chris%20herring

Amar'e-Shumpert-Hardaway

If true I wonder how this will effect them, specially Amar'e since he's been in several attempted trades since last year.

Well there goes Shump's confidence. I guess he can mail it in this year.