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7/13/2014  8:35 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:
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nixluva wrote:Don't tell me what to do!!!

We need to stop with the Melo hate and let Phil do his thing with Melo and this team.

Well you are beign ridiculous. There are a2-3 melo haters on here. the rest of teh people Simply would have preferred he take less. So its not hate in fact its support for him and the team

You seem to pile on every time someone trashes melo but qualify it with a, don't get me wrong... Comparing Duncan taking less at the end of his career versus a guy in his prime isn't fair or accurate. What was Duncan making at age 30 in a state without state income tax?
Sorry Crush but that simply sint the case. I have defended Melo plenty fo times. i have called out a few people who just bash melo. I have said 100 times im happy to have him bcak and have no problem with the contract but i personally would have preferred him take 100-110 million because they would have been a tremednous sacrifice from him. Im sorry that i havent complimented him to the moon like soem ahve but taht doesnt mean i dislike teh guy not even close
Well he wasn't and shouldn't take Gordon Hayward money or Parsons money. Phil seems happy with the deal. I don't think he expected a 30 year old to take a 12 million dollar pay cut so that he could trump Duncan by beating him to taking a big hit for the team by 6 years. Duncan was making the big bucks through age 36. Same thing as Dirk. Those guys also play in Texas where there isn't a state income tax. Reports are Ariza had the same deal in Washington as Houston and wanted to go back to the Wiz but the tax difference was significant enough that it played a role in his decision.
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7/13/2014  8:39 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
nixluva wrote:Don't tell me what to do!!!

We need to stop with the Melo hate and let Phil do his thing with Melo and this team.

Well you are beign ridiculous. There are a2-3 melo haters on here. the rest of teh people Simply would have preferred he take less. So its not hate in fact its support for him and the team

You seem to pile on every time someone trashes melo but qualify it with a, don't get me wrong... Comparing Duncan taking less at the end of his career versus a guy in his prime isn't fair or accurate. What was Duncan making at age 30 in a state without state income tax?
Sorry Crush but that simply sint the case. I have defended Melo plenty fo times. i have called out a few people who just bash melo. I have said 100 times im happy to have him bcak and have no problem with the contract but i personally would have preferred him take 100-110 million because they would have been a tremednous sacrifice from him. Im sorry that i havent complimented him to the moon like soem ahve but taht doesnt mean i dislike teh guy not even close
Well he wasn't and shouldn't take Gordon Hayward money or Parsons money. Phil seems happy with the deal. I don't think he expected a 30 year old to take a 12 million dollar pay cut so that he could trump Duncan by beating him to taking a big hit for the team by 6 years. Duncan was making the big bucks through age 36. Same thing as Dirk. Those guys also play in Texas where there isn't a state income tax. Reports are Ariza had the same deal in Washington as Houston and wanted to go back to the Wiz but the tax difference was significant enough that it played a role in his decision.
Again its not that big of deal so case closed
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7/13/2014  9:05 PM
Even though most of the big name FA will be off the table, we can still do a S&T and take back more salary.

Phil will have options, and flexibility..

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7/13/2014  9:07 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
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nixluva wrote:Don't tell me what to do!!!

We need to stop with the Melo hate and let Phil do his thing with Melo and this team.

Well you are beign ridiculous. There are a2-3 melo haters on here. the rest of teh people Simply would have preferred he take less. So its not hate in fact its support for him and the team

You seem to pile on every time someone trashes melo but qualify it with a, don't get me wrong... Comparing Duncan taking less at the end of his career versus a guy in his prime isn't fair or accurate. What was Duncan making at age 30 in a state without state income tax?
Sorry Crush but that simply sint the case. I have defended Melo plenty fo times. i have called out a few people who just bash melo. I have said 100 times im happy to have him bcak and have no problem with the contract but i personally would have preferred him take 100-110 million because they would have been a tremednous sacrifice from him. Im sorry that i havent complimented him to the moon like soem ahve but taht doesnt mean i dislike teh guy not even close
Well he wasn't and shouldn't take Gordon Hayward money or Parsons money. Phil seems happy with the deal. I don't think he expected a 30 year old to take a 12 million dollar pay cut so that he could trump Duncan by beating him to taking a big hit for the team by 6 years. Duncan was making the big bucks through age 36. Same thing as Dirk. Those guys also play in Texas where there isn't a state income tax. Reports are Ariza had the same deal in Washington as Houston and wanted to go back to the Wiz but the tax difference was significant enough that it played a role in his decision.
Again its not that big of deal so case closed

Yeah we should make a statue. Even though im a diehard Knick fan but i really respect a guy like Tim Duncan. He is probably one of the best players i have ever seen besides jordan/lebron and the guy continues to take less. No wonder San Antonio wins for 20 years

Cool. Can we addend this then and agree that Duncan got paid a ton of money and then adjusted after he turned 36? Also, Spurs are a great organization but they hit the jackpot having two hof big men for the past 20+ years on their team.

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7/13/2014  9:13 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
nixluva wrote:Don't tell me what to do!!!

We need to stop with the Melo hate and let Phil do his thing with Melo and this team.

Well you are beign ridiculous. There are a2-3 melo haters on here. the rest of teh people Simply would have preferred he take less. So its not hate in fact its support for him and the team

You seem to pile on every time someone trashes melo but qualify it with a, don't get me wrong... Comparing Duncan taking less at the end of his career versus a guy in his prime isn't fair or accurate. What was Duncan making at age 30 in a state without state income tax?
Sorry Crush but that simply sint the case. I have defended Melo plenty fo times. i have called out a few people who just bash melo. I have said 100 times im happy to have him bcak and have no problem with the contract but i personally would have preferred him take 100-110 million because they would have been a tremednous sacrifice from him. Im sorry that i havent complimented him to the moon like soem ahve but taht doesnt mean i dislike teh guy not even close
Well he wasn't and shouldn't take Gordon Hayward money or Parsons money. Phil seems happy with the deal. I don't think he expected a 30 year old to take a 12 million dollar pay cut so that he could trump Duncan by beating him to taking a big hit for the team by 6 years. Duncan was making the big bucks through age 36. Same thing as Dirk. Those guys also play in Texas where there isn't a state income tax. Reports are Ariza had the same deal in Washington as Houston and wanted to go back to the Wiz but the tax difference was significant enough that it played a role in his decision.
Again its not that big of deal so case closed

Yeah we should make a statue. Even though im a diehard Knick fan but i really respect a guy like Tim Duncan. He is probably one of the best players i have ever seen besides jordan/lebron and the guy continues to take less. No wonder San Antonio wins for 20 years

Cool. Can we addend this then and agree that Duncan got paid a ton of money and then adjusted after he turned 36? Also, Spurs are a great organization but they hit the jackpot having two hof big men for the past 20+ years on their team.

Well first of all it had nothign to do with melo. I was just talking about Duncan on his own. I guess youa re trying to come to melo's defense but there is no need because i was just talking about Duncan. Secondly i would never comapre the two because lets face it Duncan is teh better player in his prime and a hall of famer
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7/13/2014  9:19 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
nixluva wrote:Don't tell me what to do!!!

We need to stop with the Melo hate and let Phil do his thing with Melo and this team.

Well you are beign ridiculous. There are a2-3 melo haters on here. the rest of teh people Simply would have preferred he take less. So its not hate in fact its support for him and the team

You seem to pile on every time someone trashes melo but qualify it with a, don't get me wrong... Comparing Duncan taking less at the end of his career versus a guy in his prime isn't fair or accurate. What was Duncan making at age 30 in a state without state income tax?
Sorry Crush but that simply sint the case. I have defended Melo plenty fo times. i have called out a few people who just bash melo. I have said 100 times im happy to have him bcak and have no problem with the contract but i personally would have preferred him take 100-110 million because they would have been a tremednous sacrifice from him. Im sorry that i havent complimented him to the moon like soem ahve but taht doesnt mean i dislike teh guy not even close
Well he wasn't and shouldn't take Gordon Hayward money or Parsons money. Phil seems happy with the deal. I don't think he expected a 30 year old to take a 12 million dollar pay cut so that he could trump Duncan by beating him to taking a big hit for the team by 6 years. Duncan was making the big bucks through age 36. Same thing as Dirk. Those guys also play in Texas where there isn't a state income tax. Reports are Ariza had the same deal in Washington as Houston and wanted to go back to the Wiz but the tax difference was significant enough that it played a role in his decision.
Again its not that big of deal so case closed

Yeah we should make a statue. Even though im a diehard Knick fan but i really respect a guy like Tim Duncan. He is probably one of the best players i have ever seen besides jordan/lebron and the guy continues to take less. No wonder San Antonio wins for 20 years

Cool. Can we addend this then and agree that Duncan got paid a ton of money and then adjusted after he turned 36? Also, Spurs are a great organization but they hit the jackpot having two hof big men for the past 20+ years on their team.

Well first of all it had nothign to do with melo. I was just talking about Duncan on his own. I guess youa re trying to come to melo's defense but there is no need because i was just talking about Duncan. Secondly i would never comapre the two because lets face it Duncan is teh better player in his prime and a hall of famer
Duncan made over 21 mil when he was 36 in a tax free state. The guy is great but to suggest that another player should cut 6 years of max earning time off of their career to emulate a guy that did it at 36, not 30 doesn't make sense to me. 'The guy continues to take less' is far from accurate. He took less after he turned 36.
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7/13/2014  9:24 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/13/2014  9:25 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
nixluva wrote:Don't tell me what to do!!!

We need to stop with the Melo hate and let Phil do his thing with Melo and this team.

Well you are beign ridiculous. There are a2-3 melo haters on here. the rest of teh people Simply would have preferred he take less. So its not hate in fact its support for him and the team

You seem to pile on every time someone trashes melo but qualify it with a, don't get me wrong... Comparing Duncan taking less at the end of his career versus a guy in his prime isn't fair or accurate. What was Duncan making at age 30 in a state without state income tax?
Sorry Crush but that simply sint the case. I have defended Melo plenty fo times. i have called out a few people who just bash melo. I have said 100 times im happy to have him bcak and have no problem with the contract but i personally would have preferred him take 100-110 million because they would have been a tremednous sacrifice from him. Im sorry that i havent complimented him to the moon like soem ahve but taht doesnt mean i dislike teh guy not even close
Well he wasn't and shouldn't take Gordon Hayward money or Parsons money. Phil seems happy with the deal. I don't think he expected a 30 year old to take a 12 million dollar pay cut so that he could trump Duncan by beating him to taking a big hit for the team by 6 years. Duncan was making the big bucks through age 36. Same thing as Dirk. Those guys also play in Texas where there isn't a state income tax. Reports are Ariza had the same deal in Washington as Houston and wanted to go back to the Wiz but the tax difference was significant enough that it played a role in his decision.
Again its not that big of deal so case closed

Yeah we should make a statue. Even though im a diehard Knick fan but i really respect a guy like Tim Duncan. He is probably one of the best players i have ever seen besides jordan/lebron and the guy continues to take less. No wonder San Antonio wins for 20 years

Cool. Can we addend this then and agree that Duncan got paid a ton of money and then adjusted after he turned 36? Also, Spurs are a great organization but they hit the jackpot having two hof big men for the past 20+ years on their team.

Well first of all it had nothign to do with melo. I was just talking about Duncan on his own. I guess youa re trying to come to melo's defense but there is no need because i was just talking about Duncan. Secondly i would never comapre the two because lets face it Duncan is teh better player in his prime and a hall of famer
Duncan made over 21 mil when he was 36 in a tax free state. The guy is great but to suggest that another player should cut 6 years of max earning time off of their career to emulate a guy that did it at 36, not 30 doesn't make sense to me. 'The guy continues to take less' is far from accurate. He took less after he turned 36.
I NEVER said Melo should emulate Duncan. I never said Duncan took less when he was melo's age. I know its easy to misinterpret over the computer so i'll try and explain it as simply as possible. I simply said melo taking 5 years 110 million would be fair on both sides. I just brought up duncan for the hell of it. I never said he should do whta duncan did. You just got confused it happns i do it too
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7/13/2014  9:28 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
nixluva wrote:Don't tell me what to do!!!

We need to stop with the Melo hate and let Phil do his thing with Melo and this team.

Well you are beign ridiculous. There are a2-3 melo haters on here. the rest of teh people Simply would have preferred he take less. So its not hate in fact its support for him and the team

You seem to pile on every time someone trashes melo but qualify it with a, don't get me wrong... Comparing Duncan taking less at the end of his career versus a guy in his prime isn't fair or accurate. What was Duncan making at age 30 in a state without state income tax?
Sorry Crush but that simply sint the case. I have defended Melo plenty fo times. i have called out a few people who just bash melo. I have said 100 times im happy to have him bcak and have no problem with the contract but i personally would have preferred him take 100-110 million because they would have been a tremednous sacrifice from him. Im sorry that i havent complimented him to the moon like soem ahve but taht doesnt mean i dislike teh guy not even close
Well he wasn't and shouldn't take Gordon Hayward money or Parsons money. Phil seems happy with the deal. I don't think he expected a 30 year old to take a 12 million dollar pay cut so that he could trump Duncan by beating him to taking a big hit for the team by 6 years. Duncan was making the big bucks through age 36. Same thing as Dirk. Those guys also play in Texas where there isn't a state income tax. Reports are Ariza had the same deal in Washington as Houston and wanted to go back to the Wiz but the tax difference was significant enough that it played a role in his decision.
Again its not that big of deal so case closed

Yeah we should make a statue. Even though im a diehard Knick fan but i really respect a guy like Tim Duncan. He is probably one of the best players i have ever seen besides jordan/lebron and the guy continues to take less. No wonder San Antonio wins for 20 years

Cool. Can we addend this then and agree that Duncan got paid a ton of money and then adjusted after he turned 36? Also, Spurs are a great organization but they hit the jackpot having two hof big men for the past 20+ years on their team.

Well first of all it had nothign to do with melo. I was just talking about Duncan on his own. I guess youa re trying to come to melo's defense but there is no need because i was just talking about Duncan. Secondly i would never comapre the two because lets face it Duncan is teh better player in his prime and a hall of famer
Duncan made over 21 mil when he was 36 in a tax free state. The guy is great but to suggest that another player should cut 6 years of max earning time off of their career to emulate a guy that did it at 36, not 30 doesn't make sense to me. 'The guy continues to take less' is far from accurate. He took less after he turned 36.
I NEVER said Melo should emulate Duncan. I never said Duncan took less when he was melo's age. I know its easy to misinterpret over the computer so i'll try and explain it as simply as possible. I simply said melo taking 5 years 110 million would be fair on both sides. I just brought up duncan for the hell of it. I never said he should do whta duncan did. You just got confused it happns i do it too
I guess I mistook your post about erecting a statue of Melo for taking 7 mil less as sarcasm. Following that you referenced Duncan and said this,
and the guy continues to take less. No wonder San Antonio wins for 20 years
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7/13/2014  9:34 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
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CrushAlot wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
nixluva wrote:Don't tell me what to do!!!

We need to stop with the Melo hate and let Phil do his thing with Melo and this team.

Well you are beign ridiculous. There are a2-3 melo haters on here. the rest of teh people Simply would have preferred he take less. So its not hate in fact its support for him and the team

You seem to pile on every time someone trashes melo but qualify it with a, don't get me wrong... Comparing Duncan taking less at the end of his career versus a guy in his prime isn't fair or accurate. What was Duncan making at age 30 in a state without state income tax?
Sorry Crush but that simply sint the case. I have defended Melo plenty fo times. i have called out a few people who just bash melo. I have said 100 times im happy to have him bcak and have no problem with the contract but i personally would have preferred him take 100-110 million because they would have been a tremednous sacrifice from him. Im sorry that i havent complimented him to the moon like soem ahve but taht doesnt mean i dislike teh guy not even close
Well he wasn't and shouldn't take Gordon Hayward money or Parsons money. Phil seems happy with the deal. I don't think he expected a 30 year old to take a 12 million dollar pay cut so that he could trump Duncan by beating him to taking a big hit for the team by 6 years. Duncan was making the big bucks through age 36. Same thing as Dirk. Those guys also play in Texas where there isn't a state income tax. Reports are Ariza had the same deal in Washington as Houston and wanted to go back to the Wiz but the tax difference was significant enough that it played a role in his decision.
Again its not that big of deal so case closed

Yeah we should make a statue. Even though im a diehard Knick fan but i really respect a guy like Tim Duncan. He is probably one of the best players i have ever seen besides jordan/lebron and the guy continues to take less. No wonder San Antonio wins for 20 years

Cool. Can we addend this then and agree that Duncan got paid a ton of money and then adjusted after he turned 36? Also, Spurs are a great organization but they hit the jackpot having two hof big men for the past 20+ years on their team.

Well first of all it had nothign to do with melo. I was just talking about Duncan on his own. I guess youa re trying to come to melo's defense but there is no need because i was just talking about Duncan. Secondly i would never comapre the two because lets face it Duncan is teh better player in his prime and a hall of famer
Duncan made over 21 mil when he was 36 in a tax free state. The guy is great but to suggest that another player should cut 6 years of max earning time off of their career to emulate a guy that did it at 36, not 30 doesn't make sense to me. 'The guy continues to take less' is far from accurate. He took less after he turned 36.
I NEVER said Melo should emulate Duncan. I never said Duncan took less when he was melo's age. I know its easy to misinterpret over the computer so i'll try and explain it as simply as possible. I simply said melo taking 5 years 110 million would be fair on both sides. I just brought up duncan for the hell of it. I never said he should do whta duncan did. You just got confused it happns i do it too
I guess I mistook your post about erecting a statue of Melo for taking 7 mil less as sarcasm. Following that you referenced Duncan and said this,
and the guy continues to take less. No wonder San Antonio wins for 20 years

Sorry man my 3 year old son is kind of hyper tonight so i have been running around. My Father in law passed away recently so not thinking straight
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7/13/2014  9:39 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
nixluva wrote:Don't tell me what to do!!!

We need to stop with the Melo hate and let Phil do his thing with Melo and this team.

Well you are beign ridiculous. There are a2-3 melo haters on here. the rest of teh people Simply would have preferred he take less. So its not hate in fact its support for him and the team

You seem to pile on every time someone trashes melo but qualify it with a, don't get me wrong... Comparing Duncan taking less at the end of his career versus a guy in his prime isn't fair or accurate. What was Duncan making at age 30 in a state without state income tax?
Sorry Crush but that simply sint the case. I have defended Melo plenty fo times. i have called out a few people who just bash melo. I have said 100 times im happy to have him bcak and have no problem with the contract but i personally would have preferred him take 100-110 million because they would have been a tremednous sacrifice from him. Im sorry that i havent complimented him to the moon like soem ahve but taht doesnt mean i dislike teh guy not even close
Well he wasn't and shouldn't take Gordon Hayward money or Parsons money. Phil seems happy with the deal. I don't think he expected a 30 year old to take a 12 million dollar pay cut so that he could trump Duncan by beating him to taking a big hit for the team by 6 years. Duncan was making the big bucks through age 36. Same thing as Dirk. Those guys also play in Texas where there isn't a state income tax. Reports are Ariza had the same deal in Washington as Houston and wanted to go back to the Wiz but the tax difference was significant enough that it played a role in his decision.
Again its not that big of deal so case closed

Yeah we should make a statue. Even though im a diehard Knick fan but i really respect a guy like Tim Duncan. He is probably one of the best players i have ever seen besides jordan/lebron and the guy continues to take less. No wonder San Antonio wins for 20 years

Cool. Can we addend this then and agree that Duncan got paid a ton of money and then adjusted after he turned 36? Also, Spurs are a great organization but they hit the jackpot having two hof big men for the past 20+ years on their team.

Well first of all it had nothign to do with melo. I was just talking about Duncan on his own. I guess youa re trying to come to melo's defense but there is no need because i was just talking about Duncan. Secondly i would never comapre the two because lets face it Duncan is teh better player in his prime and a hall of famer
Duncan made over 21 mil when he was 36 in a tax free state. The guy is great but to suggest that another player should cut 6 years of max earning time off of their career to emulate a guy that did it at 36, not 30 doesn't make sense to me. 'The guy continues to take less' is far from accurate. He took less after he turned 36.
I NEVER said Melo should emulate Duncan. I never said Duncan took less when he was melo's age. I know its easy to misinterpret over the computer so i'll try and explain it as simply as possible. I simply said melo taking 5 years 110 million would be fair on both sides. I just brought up duncan for the hell of it. I never said he should do whta duncan did. You just got confused it happns i do it too
I guess I mistook your post about erecting a statue of Melo for taking 7 mil less as sarcasm. Following that you referenced Duncan and said this,
and the guy continues to take less. No wonder San Antonio wins for 20 years
Sorry man my 3 year old son is kind of hyper tonight so i have been running around. My Father in law passed away recently so not thinking straightWow sorry. Not that big of a deal. I think I get a bit sensitive about the criticism of the Knick organization and Melo. I have become a much bigger Melo fan/defender since he became a Knick and some trash him here. Good luck with your family.
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nixluva wrote:Don't tell me what to do!!!

We need to stop with the Melo hate and let Phil do his thing with Melo and this team.

Well you are beign ridiculous. There are a2-3 melo haters on here. the rest of teh people Simply would have preferred he take less. So its not hate in fact its support for him and the team

You seem to pile on every time someone trashes melo but qualify it with a, don't get me wrong... Comparing Duncan taking less at the end of his career versus a guy in his prime isn't fair or accurate. What was Duncan making at age 30 in a state without state income tax?
Sorry Crush but that simply sint the case. I have defended Melo plenty fo times. i have called out a few people who just bash melo. I have said 100 times im happy to have him bcak and have no problem with the contract but i personally would have preferred him take 100-110 million because they would have been a tremednous sacrifice from him. Im sorry that i havent complimented him to the moon like soem ahve but taht doesnt mean i dislike teh guy not even close
Well he wasn't and shouldn't take Gordon Hayward money or Parsons money. Phil seems happy with the deal. I don't think he expected a 30 year old to take a 12 million dollar pay cut so that he could trump Duncan by beating him to taking a big hit for the team by 6 years. Duncan was making the big bucks through age 36. Same thing as Dirk. Those guys also play in Texas where there isn't a state income tax. Reports are Ariza had the same deal in Washington as Houston and wanted to go back to the Wiz but the tax difference was significant enough that it played a role in his decision.
Again its not that big of deal so case closed

Yeah we should make a statue. Even though im a diehard Knick fan but i really respect a guy like Tim Duncan. He is probably one of the best players i have ever seen besides jordan/lebron and the guy continues to take less. No wonder San Antonio wins for 20 years

Cool. Can we addend this then and agree that Duncan got paid a ton of money and then adjusted after he turned 36? Also, Spurs are a great organization but they hit the jackpot having two hof big men for the past 20+ years on their team.

Well first of all it had nothign to do with melo. I was just talking about Duncan on his own. I guess youa re trying to come to melo's defense but there is no need because i was just talking about Duncan. Secondly i would never comapre the two because lets face it Duncan is teh better player in his prime and a hall of famer
Duncan made over 21 mil when he was 36 in a tax free state. The guy is great but to suggest that another player should cut 6 years of max earning time off of their career to emulate a guy that did it at 36, not 30 doesn't make sense to me. 'The guy continues to take less' is far from accurate. He took less after he turned 36.
I NEVER said Melo should emulate Duncan. I never said Duncan took less when he was melo's age. I know its easy to misinterpret over the computer so i'll try and explain it as simply as possible. I simply said melo taking 5 years 110 million would be fair on both sides. I just brought up duncan for the hell of it. I never said he should do whta duncan did. You just got confused it happns i do it too
I guess I mistook your post about erecting a statue of Melo for taking 7 mil less as sarcasm. Following that you referenced Duncan and said this,
and the guy continues to take less. No wonder San Antonio wins for 20 years
Sorry man my 3 year old son is kind of hyper tonight so i have been running around. My Father in law passed away recently so not thinking straight
Wow sorry. Not that big of a deal. I think I get a bit sensitive about the criticism of the Knick organization and Melo. I have become a much bigger Melo fan/defender since he became a Knick and some trash him here. Good luck with your family.
Thanks Crush appreciate teh kind word. I knwo you didnt mean what you said so its all good. Just wnat to give you a little advice, most of the fans myself included arent bahsing melo, in fact we are happy with melo. However you cant blame people with wanting him to take less because he said he would. Its not an attack on melo its just wanting him to get to the next level as a player and leader. its actually a good thing IMO because the more fans push you the more it will help
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7/13/2014  10:14 PM
To me its a non issue. Phil is happy and thus i'm happy. Phil is the one charged with building a contender. If he asked Melo specifically for the cut he ended up agreeing to, then that's all that matters, hot some arbitrary numbers we may come up with as the right amount Melo should sacrifice of his money. The process of building a contender isn't solely reliant on how much Melo makes. There are other factors.

Melo taking the advice from Phil seriously is even more important than how much of his money he sacrificed. We need this team to be playing at it's highest level as a team. Phil asking Melo to consider not trying to score every single time he touches the ball his a huge change. It involves trust on Melo's part. Trust of his teammates and of Phil. That is the same thing he had to convince Jordan and once MJ started trusting the system and his teammates they took off. I'm hoping for the same thing here.

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7/13/2014  10:15 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/13/2014  10:21 PM
nixluva wrote:Maybe now the cap crybabies can relax a bit and just get on with watching to see how things develop from here. There's still a ton of things to be done and Phil has work to do on this roster. His plan A is still going according to plan. Gonna be interesting to see what happens next.

We don't have much or a choice. Except If it blows up in our face again we can switch allegiance

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nixluva wrote:Don't tell me what to do!!!

We need to stop with the Melo hate and let Phil do his thing with Melo and this team.

Brought this up like 100,000 this past season alone. When it's all about one player other players never get a chance to develop. You can land the number 1 pick in the draft it won't matter. If Tim Duncan was a rookie on the Knicks last year he would've never become Tim Duncan

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7/13/2014  10:20 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
nixluva wrote:Don't tell me what to do!!!

We need to stop with the Melo hate and let Phil do his thing with Melo and this team.

Brought this up like 100,000 this past season alone. When it's all about one player other players never get a chance to develop. You can land the number 1 pick in the draft it won't matter. If Tim Duncan was a rookie on the Knicks last year he would've never become Tim Duncan

If Tim Duncan was a rookie on the knicks last year we probably would have won 50 fewer games the prior year. That woulda sucked.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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7/13/2014  10:43 PM
nyk4ever wrote:
fishmike wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
dk7th wrote:7 million over a five year period. melo is a saint.
Yeah we should make a statue. Even though im a diehard Knick fan but i really respect a guy like Tim Duncan. He is probably one of the best players i have ever seen besides jordan/lebron and the guy continues to take less. No wonder San Antonio wins for 20 years
Go look up his salary history. Taking less didn't happen until he was 35

dont bother fish, you and i have said this multiple times each and people just ignore it. yeah, duncan took less, only after he made 200million..

you're misrepresenting reality, aka lying.

duncan had won three titles and when he was 26 he earned 12 million dollars the year he won his first of three finals mvps.

again, by the time he earned 22 million in a season he had already won 3 titles and had earned 3 finals mvps. he led his teams to those titles.

meantime your defense of this greedy, me-first never was is truly moronic and pathetic.

what has carmelo done to actually earn the right to receive almost the entire maximum?

NOTHING

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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dk7th wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:
fishmike wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
dk7th wrote:7 million over a five year period. melo is a saint.
Yeah we should make a statue. Even though im a diehard Knick fan but i really respect a guy like Tim Duncan. He is probably one of the best players i have ever seen besides jordan/lebron and the guy continues to take less. No wonder San Antonio wins for 20 years
Go look up his salary history. Taking less didn't happen until he was 35

dont bother fish, you and i have said this multiple times each and people just ignore it. yeah, duncan took less, only after he made 200million..

you're misrepresenting reality, aka lying.

duncan had won three titles and when he was 26 he earned 12 million dollars the year he won his first of three finals mvps.

again, by the time he earned 22 million in a season he had already won 3 titles and had earned 3 finals mvps. he led his teams to those titles.

meantime your defense of this greedy, me-first never was is truly moronic and pathetic.

what has carmelo done to actually earn the right to receive almost the entire maximum?

NOTHING

Ask Phil Jackson. He wouldn't entertain a sign and trade with the bulls and gave Melo the contract that he signed.
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CrushAlot wrote:
dk7th wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:
fishmike wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
dk7th wrote:7 million over a five year period. melo is a saint.
Yeah we should make a statue. Even though im a diehard Knick fan but i really respect a guy like Tim Duncan. He is probably one of the best players i have ever seen besides jordan/lebron and the guy continues to take less. No wonder San Antonio wins for 20 years
Go look up his salary history. Taking less didn't happen until he was 35

dont bother fish, you and i have said this multiple times each and people just ignore it. yeah, duncan took less, only after he made 200million..

you're misrepresenting reality, aka lying.

duncan had won three titles and when he was 26 he earned 12 million dollars the year he won his first of three finals mvps.

again, by the time he earned 22 million in a season he had already won 3 titles and had earned 3 finals mvps. he led his teams to those titles.

meantime your defense of this greedy, me-first never was is truly moronic and pathetic.

what has carmelo done to actually earn the right to receive almost the entire maximum?

NOTHING

Ask Phil Jackson. He wouldn't entertain a sign and trade with the bulls and gave Melo the contract that he signed.

sorry but this is all on melo, unconscionable melo.

all of it.

every last unconscionable cent.

you can try to deflect all you want-- it was dolan, it was walsh, it was jackson-- but melo is the common denominator and has once again taken more than he has ever deserved and hurts the team he plays for in doing so.

it's unconscionable.

just an awful awful situation for the knicks.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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7/13/2014  11:03 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
dk7th wrote:you're misrepresenting reality, aka lying.

duncan had won three titles and when he was 26 he earned 12 million dollars the year he won his first of three finals mvps.

again, by the time he earned 22 million in a season he had already won 3 titles and had earned 3 finals mvps. he led his teams to those titles.

meantime your defense of this greedy, me-first never was is truly moronic and pathetic.

what has carmelo done to actually earn the right to receive almost the entire maximum?

NOTHING

Ask Phil Jackson. He wouldn't entertain a sign and trade with the bulls and gave Melo the contract that he signed.

After watching McDermott tonight in Summer League action both Phil and Nuggets may have regret, although Harris may be a gem.

Hoping C-Early can be one himself


I think Phil could have exercised due diligence and entertained S&T offers, to peak Anthony's value. What would the harm be knowing Max contract was always the Trump Card?

Phil confirms: Melo took less than max

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