IronWillGiroud wrote:

nixluva wrote:

IronWillGiroud wrote:guy's a bum unless he can morph into luc longley or bill wellington?

He's not a BUM!!! You need to do some research on this kids production despite not getting minutes. If he was getting starter minutes he'd likely be a 10/12/2 Center. The whole idea is to hope you have a serviceable center like Phil has had in the past.

I'v heard this **** about bums all the time,

just because he's a bum now doesn't mean he has to stay one.

people develop.

the Zen Master might prove to be the spark that settles the Tao within young Cole

Cole hasn't done much but centers often take time and realize he was selected 11th in his draft I think.
When he got minutes last year he produced. Considering the value we got for Chandler and that I liked Cole better, I'm happy. (Though Tyson might have just mailed last year in - Thanks Woody.)

Cole appears pretty smart and he is actually a decent rim protector, not great but he gets his blocks and can use his weight.

earthmansurfer wrote:

IronWillGiroud wrote:

nixluva wrote:

IronWillGiroud wrote:guy's a bum unless he can morph into luc longley or bill wellington?

He's not a BUM!!! You need to do some research on this kids production despite not getting minutes. If he was getting starter minutes he'd likely be a 10/12/2 Center. The whole idea is to hope you have a serviceable center like Phil has had in the past.

I'v heard this **** about bums all the time,

just because he's a bum now doesn't mean he has to stay one.

people develop.

the Zen Master might prove to be the spark that settles the Tao within young Cole

Cole hasn't done much but centers often take time and realize he was selected 11th in his draft I think.
When he got minutes last year he produced. Considering the value we got for Chandler and that I liked Cole better, I'm happy. (Though Tyson might have just mailed last year in - Thanks Woody.)

Cole appears pretty smart and he is actually a decent rim protector, not great but he gets his blocks and can use his weight.

You're spot on here. I suspect we got Cole back for the minimum -- if that's the case, we have Woody to thank for that. If Woody would've used Cole all year long like he should have, this dude would've produced even better overall numbers and therefore would've been more expensive, maybe even right out of our price range. So yeah, thanks Woody! LOL.

And yeah, totally agree -- we got some nice value in return for Chandler and I too like Cole better anyway, so happy camper here as well.

nixluva wrote:We're lucky Tyson still has a bit of a good reputation around the league. He wasn't devalued too much by last year. Yes we caught a break with Cole that he was hidden by Woody's incompetence. He comes cheap and I think he'll produce at a good level for us. Cole is young and strong and seems very comfortable in the Triangle which is GREAT!!!

I wonder if OKC would have also given us a nice package for Tyson? I really feel they are a nice center away from a championship and didn't get them not stepping up.

Finestrg - I hope Fisher uses Cole well. Clearly he has talent and again, he seems like he has some brains. With our triangle offense, brains are needed.

yellowboy90 wrote:

nixluva wrote:We're lucky Tyson still has a bit of a good reputation around the league. He wasn't devalued too much by last year. Yes we caught a break with Cole that he was hidden by Woody's incompetence. He comes cheap and I think he'll produce at a good level for us. Cole is young and strong and seems very comfortable in the Triangle which is GREAT!!!

To be fair Cole has bounced around so you can blame a lot of coaches if you want. I think Cole has promise though and at the least he will be a good back up defensive bigs. I hope he can be similar to Robin Lopez but Mahimi is probably more likely of a comparison.

All of that is fine. Cole is cheap and productive with minutes. That's all I want from the guy.

Jmpasq wrote:

Ira wrote:I've always liked Aldrich. He's a strong rebounder and doesn't hurt you defensively or offensively.

Advanced Stats showed him to be the 2nd best rebounder in the NBA behind Andre Drummond

Drummond, Andre DET C 81 2619 .331 18.1 7.2 20.1 19.6 0.6
Aldrich, Cole NYK C 46 330 .319 2.2 6.8 13.4 18.8 2.0
Asik, Omer HOU C 48 968 .190 3.8 2.8 13.9 18.7 1.2
Jordan, DeAndre LAC C 82 2870 .323 19.3 7.0 14.3 18.6 1.2
Bogut, Andrew GSW C 67 1769 .293 10.8 6.0 13.3 18.2 3.0

DeAndre Jordan beast center, Cole Aldrich new BillWennington