NardDogNation wrote:Nalod wrote:NardDogNation wrote:WaltLongmire wrote:NardDogNation wrote:WaltLongmire wrote:smackeddog wrote:NardDogNation wrote:I'll believe it when I see it.
I didn't believe it until this morning. Either it happens or Lebron is somehow even more hated in Cleveland than he was in 2010! Raising their hopes AND leading to them giving up picks!
You have to think the Cavs have a verbal agreement with James. If not, and you're a Cav's fan, you better hope that
1) they have a legit backup plan to use the cap space.
2) the #1 they gave up has some kind of protection attached to it.
Folks in Cleveland might be more devastated than the nation of Brazil in a day or two if things don't work out for them.
You could make that same argument for the phletora of teams that bet the farm for James in 2010. If the Cavs had the commitment, we would've heard about it by now.
The commitment might have been based on the Cav's ability to clear the cap space without giving up assets that James wanted to keep.What's the expression that George Bush f'd up a few years ago... "Fool me once, shame on you...fool me twice, shame on me."
Cleveland was his original team and it is in a state where he has roots- I feel they are in a different situation than the other teams who wanted him in 2010 because they HAD him and then LOST him.
Cavs look totally foolish if they don't get James because they are dealing out of desperation, and not strength, by scrambling around to open up cap space at this point in time.
Something had to trigger this movement on their part... was it a "handshake" or hope?
Rumor 'round the cooler was that the Cavs cleared that cap space, without LeBron in mind. I highly doubt it but that was being reported. I wouldn't be surprised if that were the case because DanGilbert is the hotheaded type and isn't willing to play the long-game. He probably authorized the dump because he thought that he could persuade LeBron to come if he had enough room to acquire personal friends. As has been reported, Mike Miller and Ray Allen are both guys that Gilbert plans to sign if the LeBron domino drops. Even if they don't get LeBron, it seems they believe that they could be major players for other free agents to be like Trevor Ariza and Chandler Parsons.
Other than his bad response open letter to lebron, how is he a "hothead"?
You going to demonize all super wealthy owners?
If they get lebron they got trade assets for KLove or Melo in sign and trade if Lebron wants him.
To my knowledge, Gilbert's money is small potatoes in the NBA. My problem with him is strictly based on his performance as an owner and my impressions of his character. And as far as performance is concerned, he's been abysmal. Normally, I'd blame the bball operations people but he's been through 3 GM's (Danny Ferry, Chris Grant and David Griffin) in a very short period of time, who all seemed to have one fatal flaw/theme: impatience/short-sightedness. So I presume that it's ultimately Gilbert that is calling the shots as far as the direction of the team (especially with how dramatic a difference Ferry has been in ATL). And that impatience/short-sightedness has lead to them consistently making irrational moves in an ill-fated decision to try and win now; either by reaching on older players in the draft, overpaying vets like Jarrett Jack and Andrew Bynum or by trading a bunch of draft picks for above average players like Loul Deng. And instead of owning up to the error of his ways, he tries to throw his power around to screw the players union. Allegedly, both he and Robert Sarver were key agitators on the owners side that forced the lockout.
Beyond just that, he seems like a douche. There have been a few articles published about how his fortune was built on pushing sub-prime mortgages and by purposely deceiving customers. On top of that, he conveniently parades his Simon Birch looking kid out to the public, in an attempt to humanize himself and pander for sympathy. For the record, he has 4 other kids but we haven't seen any of them, now have we? The man doesn't seem to have very many redeeming qualities and it has nothing to do with his money. You think that the LeBron letter was just an isolated incident with him. I think it's much more.
Don't get me wrong, Im not a fan of his.
A few months back I looked over QLoans record and have not seen the levels of subprime problems that many brick and mortar banks have had. Most of their problems revolved around loose underwriting and as such they ahve been exposed to similar class action suits common in the industry. The true criminal element of subprime was the repackageing the bands of bonds as higher quality then they really were.
Gilbert is an ass and has had to learn how to be a good owner. He did inherit Lebron and Ferry. I admire that they rehired Brown last year, and admire they made a mistake tp bring him back and then again fired him early in his contract. Same with Getting new GM in place. Seems He learns faster than our dolan!!!
Lebron and Gilbert are entitled to mature and grow from experiences and we can't hold them accountable for everything forever. I think he got hoodwinked by Lebron and his group and was really pissed off. I can't say I blame him. The letter put him in the gutter with Lebron and his "Decision" telecast. Both regrettable. I thought Lebron has matured and changed in his 4 years. Regarding His kid and parading the little bow tie guy around lets just say its hands off. I am lucky to have two fully healthy kids and not been in his shoes, but If I didn't and had a basketball team so what if the little guy gets some enjoyment from it?
With what they amassed in talent and adding lebron they can make deals (Trade for Melo or Love) and really make some serious noise for the next few years.
Regarding his net worth outside the team he appears to be in the upper third. http://hoopshype.com/owners.htm
7/9/2014 4:12 PM
