Papabear wrote:

djsunyc wrote:winning is not guaranteed in sports ever.
but contracts are.

melo should go for the most money he can get - it's the smart thing to do.

once you get to that 35+ age range, your views on life probably change so other things are more important. dirk is there. melo is not.

Papabear Says

The Zen Master fooled a lot of the guys on this forum. So they thought Phil wanted Melo gone and he would be offered less money. I even heard D7th say 12 - 14 million ha ha what a joke. Melo has the last word and he will get paid.

you sound so happy that he is getting paid.. how much is your cut?

CrushAlot wrote:

mreinman wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:So if melo takes the max until he is 36 like dirk and then takes a 12 million dollar pay cut heading into a year where he would turn 37 he would be learning about sacrificing for the team? My guess is Melo does that but he would be 35 at the end of his next contract. P

So you don't think Melo should take a discount to stay?

I don't get it. Sounds like some posters would be dissatisfied if he does the smart thing and gives his knicks a discount

Not what I meant at all. I think comparing Melo to Dirk's contract to Melo is a bad comparison. Dirk made over 22 mil last year. He has gotten paid. Taking 12 million less on a deal that has him locked up until he is 40 isn't the same as a guy that just turned 30 taking a 12 million dollar pay cut. The comparison is pretty off. Implying that a guy that is going to get paid 10 mil when he is 39 is giving up money for the team is a bit of a stretch. Dirk made his money. Find another thirty year old max guy that signs for 12 mil less than they could make and I think the op has a point.

so instead of answering my question directly you decide to hide behind and among other posts.

Season	Team	Lg	Salary
1998-99	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$1,472,640
1999-00	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$1,583,040
2000-01	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$1,693,560
2001-02	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$2,157,595
2002-03	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$10,067,750
2003-04	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$11,326,219
2004-05	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$12,584,688
2005-06	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$13,843,156
2006-07	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$15,101,625
2007-08	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$16,360,094
2008-09	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$18,077,904
2009-10	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$19,795,714
2010-11	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$17,278,618
2011-12	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$19,092,873
2012-13	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$20,907,128
2013-14	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$22,721,381
Career	(may be incomplete)		$204,063,985

these are nowitzki's career earnings. he started out at twenty years old.

2000-01 NBA All-NBA (3rd)
2001-02 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2002-03 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2003-04 NBA All-NBA (3rd)
2004-05 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2005-06 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2006-07 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2007-08 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2008-09 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2009-10 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2010-11 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2011-12 NBA All-NBA (3rd)

you see all those 1st and 2nd all-nba awards? at the same age as when melo came to ny nowitzki was pulling down 12.5 million and had already achieved two all-nba second team elections. the year he won the finals MVP he earned 17.25. this past season his RPM was 5th best in the NBA.

after all of his accomplishments, each of the following three seasons after winning he title, he STILL did not earn as much annually as you expect carmelo anthony will.

best of all, and here is the crux of the matter: he agreed to take 16 million less per year on his previous 4-year contract! and this is after having shown that he is the vastly more accomplished player already!

carmelo anthiny has not done SHYTE his entire career by comparison.

in short, your initial <crickets> non-response to my question and then this utter crap response you make above shows that you are frightened of real debate... and a liar.

dk7th wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

mreinman wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:So if melo takes the max until he is 36 like dirk and then takes a 12 million dollar pay cut heading into a year where he would turn 37 he would be learning about sacrificing for the team? My guess is Melo does that but he would be 35 at the end of his next contract. P

So you don't think Melo should take a discount to stay?

I don't get it. Sounds like some posters would be dissatisfied if he does the smart thing and gives his knicks a discount

Not what I meant at all. I think comparing Melo to Dirk's contract to Melo is a bad comparison. Dirk made over 22 mil last year. He has gotten paid. Taking 12 million less on a deal that has him locked up until he is 40 isn't the same as a guy that just turned 30 taking a 12 million dollar pay cut. The comparison is pretty off. Implying that a guy that is going to get paid 10 mil when he is 39 is giving up money for the team is a bit of a stretch. Dirk made his money. Find another thirty year old max guy that signs for 12 mil less than they could make and I think the op has a point.

so instead of answering my question directly you decide to hide behind and among other posts.

Season	Team	Lg	Salary
1998-99	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$1,472,640
1999-00	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$1,583,040
2000-01	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$1,693,560
2001-02	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$2,157,595
2002-03	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$10,067,750
2003-04	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$11,326,219
2004-05	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$12,584,688
2005-06	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$13,843,156
2006-07	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$15,101,625
2007-08	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$16,360,094
2008-09	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$18,077,904
2009-10	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$19,795,714
2010-11	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$17,278,618
2011-12	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$19,092,873
2012-13	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$20,907,128
2013-14	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$22,721,381
Career	(may be incomplete)		$204,063,985

these are nowitzki's career earnings. he started out at twenty years old.

2000-01 NBA All-NBA (3rd)
2001-02 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2002-03 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2003-04 NBA All-NBA (3rd)
2004-05 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2005-06 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2006-07 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2007-08 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2008-09 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2009-10 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2010-11 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2011-12 NBA All-NBA (3rd)

you see all those 1st and 2nd all-nba awards? at the same age as when melo came to ny nowitzki was pulling down 12.5 million and had already achieved two all-nba second team elections. the year he won the finals MVP he earned 17.25. this past season his RPM was 5th best in the NBA.

after all of his accomplishments, each of the following three seasons after winning he title, he STILL did not earn as much annually as you expect carmelo anthony will.

best of all, and here is the crux of the matter: he agreed to take 16 million less per year on his previous 4-year contract! and this is after having shown that he is the vastly more accomplished player already!

carmelo anthiny has not done SHYTE his entire career by comparison.

in short, your initial <crickets> non-response to my question and then this utter crap response you make above shows that you are frightened of real debate... and a liar.

Papabear Says

What debate?? You lost. Melo is getting paid. Who cares what the Mavericks paid Dirk. You must now prepare for the 2nd coming of Melo. now no racial remarks be clean.

dk7th wrote:

Papabear wrote:

dk7th wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

mreinman wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:So if melo takes the max until he is 36 like dirk and then takes a 12 million dollar pay cut heading into a year where he would turn 37 he would be learning about sacrificing for the team? My guess is Melo does that but he would be 35 at the end of his next contract. P

So you don't think Melo should take a discount to stay?

I don't get it. Sounds like some posters would be dissatisfied if he does the smart thing and gives his knicks a discount

Not what I meant at all. I think comparing Melo to Dirk's contract to Melo is a bad comparison. Dirk made over 22 mil last year. He has gotten paid. Taking 12 million less on a deal that has him locked up until he is 40 isn't the same as a guy that just turned 30 taking a 12 million dollar pay cut. The comparison is pretty off. Implying that a guy that is going to get paid 10 mil when he is 39 is giving up money for the team is a bit of a stretch. Dirk made his money. Find another thirty year old max guy that signs for 12 mil less than they could make and I think the op has a point.

so instead of answering my question directly you decide to hide behind and among other posts.

Season	Team	Lg	Salary
1998-99	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$1,472,640
1999-00	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$1,583,040
2000-01	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$1,693,560
2001-02	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$2,157,595
2002-03	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$10,067,750
2003-04	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$11,326,219
2004-05	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$12,584,688
2005-06	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$13,843,156
2006-07	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$15,101,625
2007-08	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$16,360,094
2008-09	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$18,077,904
2009-10	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$19,795,714
2010-11	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$17,278,618
2011-12	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$19,092,873
2012-13	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$20,907,128
2013-14	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$22,721,381
Career	(may be incomplete)		$204,063,985

these are nowitzki's career earnings. he started out at twenty years old.

2000-01 NBA All-NBA (3rd)
2001-02 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2002-03 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2003-04 NBA All-NBA (3rd)
2004-05 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2005-06 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2006-07 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2007-08 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2008-09 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2009-10 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2010-11 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2011-12 NBA All-NBA (3rd)

you see all those 1st and 2nd all-nba awards? at the same age as when melo came to ny nowitzki was pulling down 12.5 million and had already achieved two all-nba second team elections. the year he won the finals MVP he earned 17.25. this past season his RPM was 5th best in the NBA.

after all of his accomplishments, each of the following three seasons after winning he title, he STILL did not earn as much annually as you expect carmelo anthony will.

best of all, and here is the crux of the matter: he agreed to take 16 million less per year on his previous 4-year contract! and this is after having shown that he is the vastly more accomplished player already!

carmelo anthiny has not done SHYTE his entire career by comparison.

in short, your initial <crickets> non-response to my question and then this utter crap response you make above shows that you are frightened of real debate... and a liar.

Papabear Says

What debate?? You lost. Melo is getting paid. Who cares what the Mavericks paid Dirk. You must now prepare for the 2nd coming of Melo. now no racial remarks be clean.

guess you didn't read the post. you do know how to read, don't you? or is one of your grandchildren dumbing it down for you?

Papabear Says

Oh I can read. you said (here you go, carmelo-- read, watch, and learn) Learn what?? So is Melo dumb? This is not about learning. It's about hating as you usually do about Melo. All I'm saying is get used to seeing Melo play for another 5 years or more in a Knicks uniform. I just love it don't you?

dk7th wrote:

Papabear wrote:

dk7th wrote:

Papabear wrote:

dk7th wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

mreinman wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:So if melo takes the max until he is 36 like dirk and then takes a 12 million dollar pay cut heading into a year where he would turn 37 he would be learning about sacrificing for the team? My guess is Melo does that but he would be 35 at the end of his next contract. P

So you don't think Melo should take a discount to stay?

I don't get it. Sounds like some posters would be dissatisfied if he does the smart thing and gives his knicks a discount

Not what I meant at all. I think comparing Melo to Dirk's contract to Melo is a bad comparison. Dirk made over 22 mil last year. He has gotten paid. Taking 12 million less on a deal that has him locked up until he is 40 isn't the same as a guy that just turned 30 taking a 12 million dollar pay cut. The comparison is pretty off. Implying that a guy that is going to get paid 10 mil when he is 39 is giving up money for the team is a bit of a stretch. Dirk made his money. Find another thirty year old max guy that signs for 12 mil less than they could make and I think the op has a point.

so instead of answering my question directly you decide to hide behind and among other posts.

Season	Team	Lg	Salary
1998-99	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$1,472,640
1999-00	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$1,583,040
2000-01	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$1,693,560
2001-02	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$2,157,595
2002-03	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$10,067,750
2003-04	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$11,326,219
2004-05	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$12,584,688
2005-06	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$13,843,156
2006-07	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$15,101,625
2007-08	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$16,360,094
2008-09	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$18,077,904
2009-10	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$19,795,714
2010-11	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$17,278,618
2011-12	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$19,092,873
2012-13	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$20,907,128
2013-14	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$22,721,381
Career	(may be incomplete)		$204,063,985

these are nowitzki's career earnings. he started out at twenty years old.

2000-01 NBA All-NBA (3rd)
2001-02 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2002-03 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2003-04 NBA All-NBA (3rd)
2004-05 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2005-06 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2006-07 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2007-08 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2008-09 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2009-10 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2010-11 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2011-12 NBA All-NBA (3rd)

you see all those 1st and 2nd all-nba awards? at the same age as when melo came to ny nowitzki was pulling down 12.5 million and had already achieved two all-nba second team elections. the year he won the finals MVP he earned 17.25. this past season his RPM was 5th best in the NBA.

after all of his accomplishments, each of the following three seasons after winning he title, he STILL did not earn as much annually as you expect carmelo anthony will.

best of all, and here is the crux of the matter: he agreed to take 16 million less per year on his previous 4-year contract! and this is after having shown that he is the vastly more accomplished player already!

carmelo anthiny has not done SHYTE his entire career by comparison.

in short, your initial <crickets> non-response to my question and then this utter crap response you make above shows that you are frightened of real debate... and a liar.

Papabear Says

What debate?? You lost. Melo is getting paid. Who cares what the Mavericks paid Dirk. You must now prepare for the 2nd coming of Melo. now no racial remarks be clean.

guess you didn't read the post. you do know how to read, don't you? or is one of your grandchildren dumbing it down for you?

Papabear Says

Oh I can read. you said (here you go, carmelo-- read, watch, and learn) Learn what?? So is Melo dumb? This is not about learning. It's about hating as you usually do about Melo. All I'm saying is get used to seeing Melo play for another 5 years or more in a Knicks uniform. I just love it don't you?

i know you didn't read the post goldilocks, and your granddaughter didn't dumb it down for you either. as usual you are writing like you have just inhaled too much turtle wax.

1) learn by a superior player's example and follow what he did to succeed. if you don't then yes you are dumb

2) if it isn't about learning then it has to be about a money grab

3) it isn't about my hating him-- if he ends up taking the max then every true knick fan will hate him

4) i doubt the knicks will hold that much interest for me going forward. what i do look forward to seeing is melo add to his already impressive resume' and rock solid legacy.

well said...

Papabear wrote:

dk7th wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

mreinman wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:So if melo takes the max until he is 36 like dirk and then takes a 12 million dollar pay cut heading into a year where he would turn 37 he would be learning about sacrificing for the team? My guess is Melo does that but he would be 35 at the end of his next contract. P

So you don't think Melo should take a discount to stay?

I don't get it. Sounds like some posters would be dissatisfied if he does the smart thing and gives his knicks a discount

Not what I meant at all. I think comparing Melo to Dirk's contract to Melo is a bad comparison. Dirk made over 22 mil last year. He has gotten paid. Taking 12 million less on a deal that has him locked up until he is 40 isn't the same as a guy that just turned 30 taking a 12 million dollar pay cut. The comparison is pretty off. Implying that a guy that is going to get paid 10 mil when he is 39 is giving up money for the team is a bit of a stretch. Dirk made his money. Find another thirty year old max guy that signs for 12 mil less than they could make and I think the op has a point.

so instead of answering my question directly you decide to hide behind and among other posts.

Season	Team	Lg	Salary
1998-99	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$1,472,640
1999-00	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$1,583,040
2000-01	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$1,693,560
2001-02	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$2,157,595
2002-03	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$10,067,750
2003-04	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$11,326,219
2004-05	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$12,584,688
2005-06	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$13,843,156
2006-07	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$15,101,625
2007-08	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$16,360,094
2008-09	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$18,077,904
2009-10	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$19,795,714
2010-11	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$17,278,618
2011-12	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$19,092,873
2012-13	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$20,907,128
2013-14	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$22,721,381
Career	(may be incomplete)		$204,063,985

these are nowitzki's career earnings. he started out at twenty years old.

2000-01 NBA All-NBA (3rd)
2001-02 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2002-03 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2003-04 NBA All-NBA (3rd)
2004-05 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2005-06 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2006-07 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2007-08 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2008-09 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2009-10 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2010-11 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2011-12 NBA All-NBA (3rd)

you see all those 1st and 2nd all-nba awards? at the same age as when melo came to ny nowitzki was pulling down 12.5 million and had already achieved two all-nba second team elections. the year he won the finals MVP he earned 17.25. this past season his RPM was 5th best in the NBA.

after all of his accomplishments, each of the following three seasons after winning he title, he STILL did not earn as much annually as you expect carmelo anthony will.

best of all, and here is the crux of the matter: he agreed to take 16 million less per year on his previous 4-year contract! and this is after having shown that he is the vastly more accomplished player already!

carmelo anthiny has not done SHYTE his entire career by comparison.

in short, your initial <crickets> non-response to my question and then this utter crap response you make above shows that you are frightened of real debate... and a liar.

Papabear Says

What debate?? You lost. Melo is getting paid. Who cares what the Mavericks paid Dirk. You must now prepare for the 2nd coming of Melo. now no racial remarks be clean.

UGH. Another discussion ruined.

meloshouldgo wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

dk7th wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

mreinman wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:So if melo takes the max until he is 36 like dirk and then takes a 12 million dollar pay cut heading into a year where he would turn 37 he would be learning about sacrificing for the team? My guess is Melo does that but he would be 35 at the end of his next contract. P

So you don't think Melo should take a discount to stay?

I don't get it. Sounds like some posters would be dissatisfied if he does the smart thing and gives his knicks a discount

Not what I meant at all. I think comparing Melo to Dirk's contract to Melo is a bad comparison. Dirk made over 22 mil last year. He has gotten paid. Taking 12 million less on a deal that has him locked up until he is 40 isn't the same as a guy that just turned 30 taking a 12 million dollar pay cut. The comparison is pretty off. Implying that a guy that is going to get paid 10 mil when he is 39 is giving up money for the team is a bit of a stretch. Dirk made his money. Find another thirty year old max guy that signs for 12 mil less than they could make and I think the op has a point.

so instead of answering my question directly you decide to hide behind and among other posts.

Season	Team	Lg	Salary
1998-99	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$1,472,640
1999-00	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$1,583,040
2000-01	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$1,693,560
2001-02	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$2,157,595
2002-03	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$10,067,750
2003-04	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$11,326,219
2004-05	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$12,584,688
2005-06	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$13,843,156
2006-07	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$15,101,625
2007-08	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$16,360,094
2008-09	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$18,077,904
2009-10	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$19,795,714
2010-11	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$17,278,618
2011-12	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$19,092,873
2012-13	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$20,907,128
2013-14	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$22,721,381
Career	(may be incomplete)		$204,063,985

these are nowitzki's career earnings. he started out at twenty years old.

2000-01 NBA All-NBA (3rd)
2001-02 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2002-03 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2003-04 NBA All-NBA (3rd)
2004-05 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2005-06 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2006-07 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2007-08 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2008-09 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2009-10 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2010-11 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2011-12 NBA All-NBA (3rd)

you see all those 1st and 2nd all-nba awards? at the same age as when melo came to ny nowitzki was pulling down 12.5 million and had already achieved two all-nba second team elections. the year he won the finals MVP he earned 17.25. this past season his RPM was 5th best in the NBA.

after all of his accomplishments, each of the following three seasons after winning he title, he STILL did not earn as much annually as you expect carmelo anthony will.

best of all, and here is the crux of the matter: he agreed to take 16 million less per year on his previous 4-year contract! and this is after having shown that he is the vastly more accomplished player already!

carmelo anthiny has not done SHYTE his entire career by comparison.

in short, your initial <crickets> non-response to my question and then this utter crap response you make above shows that you are frightened of real debate... and a liar.

I am not on a device that would let me copy Melo's salary but they appear to parallel each other. Once they were done with their rookie deals. In regards to a question, I believe you asked about playoff success. I assumed you asked it to make the point that dirk had one a title and that it didn't need an answer. I still think taking 12 mil less for a guy that is 36 is different than taking less at 30. Dirk was getting paid at thirty.

I think his point was Dirk was a more accomplished player at 30 and more deserving of getting paid. And I don't think you addressed that point at all.

I disagree. We interpret, "who has the greater track record in the playoffs?" differently.

meloshouldgo wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

dk7th wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

mreinman wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:So if melo takes the max until he is 36 like dirk and then takes a 12 million dollar pay cut heading into a year where he would turn 37 he would be learning about sacrificing for the team? My guess is Melo does that but he would be 35 at the end of his next contract. P

So you don't think Melo should take a discount to stay?

I don't get it. Sounds like some posters would be dissatisfied if he does the smart thing and gives his knicks a discount

Not what I meant at all. I think comparing Melo to Dirk's contract to Melo is a bad comparison. Dirk made over 22 mil last year. He has gotten paid. Taking 12 million less on a deal that has him locked up until he is 40 isn't the same as a guy that just turned 30 taking a 12 million dollar pay cut. The comparison is pretty off. Implying that a guy that is going to get paid 10 mil when he is 39 is giving up money for the team is a bit of a stretch. Dirk made his money. Find another thirty year old max guy that signs for 12 mil less than they could make and I think the op has a point.

so instead of answering my question directly you decide to hide behind and among other posts.

Season	Team	Lg	Salary
1998-99	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$1,472,640
1999-00	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$1,583,040
2000-01	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$1,693,560
2001-02	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$2,157,595
2002-03	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$10,067,750
2003-04	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$11,326,219
2004-05	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$12,584,688
2005-06	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$13,843,156
2006-07	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$15,101,625
2007-08	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$16,360,094
2008-09	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$18,077,904
2009-10	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$19,795,714
2010-11	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$17,278,618
2011-12	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$19,092,873
2012-13	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$20,907,128
2013-14	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$22,721,381
Career	(may be incomplete)		$204,063,985

these are nowitzki's career earnings. he started out at twenty years old.

2000-01 NBA All-NBA (3rd)
2001-02 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2002-03 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2003-04 NBA All-NBA (3rd)
2004-05 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2005-06 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2006-07 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2007-08 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2008-09 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2009-10 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2010-11 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2011-12 NBA All-NBA (3rd)

you see all those 1st and 2nd all-nba awards? at the same age as when melo came to ny nowitzki was pulling down 12.5 million and had already achieved two all-nba second team elections. the year he won the finals MVP he earned 17.25. this past season his RPM was 5th best in the NBA.

after all of his accomplishments, each of the following three seasons after winning he title, he STILL did not earn as much annually as you expect carmelo anthony will.

best of all, and here is the crux of the matter: he agreed to take 16 million less per year on his previous 4-year contract! and this is after having shown that he is the vastly more accomplished player already!

carmelo anthiny has not done SHYTE his entire career by comparison.

in short, your initial <crickets> non-response to my question and then this utter crap response you make above shows that you are frightened of real debate... and a liar.

I am not on a device that would let me copy Melo's salary but they appear to parallel each other. Once they were done with their rookie deals. In regards to a question, I believe you asked about playoff success. I assumed you asked it to make the point that dirk had one a title and that it didn't need an answer. I still think taking 12 mil less for a guy that is 36 is different than taking less at 30. Dirk was getting paid at thirty.

I think his point was Dirk was a more accomplished player at 30 and more deserving of getting paid. And I don't think you addressed that point at all.

That was only his point after his first attempt was about how Dirk is unselfish because he is willing to take less at age 37. When at first you don't succeed try and try again.

yellowboy90 wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

dk7th wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

mreinman wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:So if melo takes the max until he is 36 like dirk and then takes a 12 million dollar pay cut heading into a year where he would turn 37 he would be learning about sacrificing for the team? My guess is Melo does that but he would be 35 at the end of his next contract. P

So you don't think Melo should take a discount to stay?

I don't get it. Sounds like some posters would be dissatisfied if he does the smart thing and gives his knicks a discount

Not what I meant at all. I think comparing Melo to Dirk's contract to Melo is a bad comparison. Dirk made over 22 mil last year. He has gotten paid. Taking 12 million less on a deal that has him locked up until he is 40 isn't the same as a guy that just turned 30 taking a 12 million dollar pay cut. The comparison is pretty off. Implying that a guy that is going to get paid 10 mil when he is 39 is giving up money for the team is a bit of a stretch. Dirk made his money. Find another thirty year old max guy that signs for 12 mil less than they could make and I think the op has a point.

so instead of answering my question directly you decide to hide behind and among other posts.

Season	Team	Lg	Salary
1998-99	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$1,472,640
1999-00	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$1,583,040
2000-01	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$1,693,560
2001-02	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$2,157,595
2002-03	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$10,067,750
2003-04	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$11,326,219
2004-05	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$12,584,688
2005-06	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$13,843,156
2006-07	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$15,101,625
2007-08	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$16,360,094
2008-09	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$18,077,904
2009-10	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$19,795,714
2010-11	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$17,278,618
2011-12	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$19,092,873
2012-13	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$20,907,128
2013-14	Dallas Mavericks	NBA	$22,721,381
Career	(may be incomplete)		$204,063,985

these are nowitzki's career earnings. he started out at twenty years old.

2000-01 NBA All-NBA (3rd)
2001-02 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2002-03 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2003-04 NBA All-NBA (3rd)
2004-05 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2005-06 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2006-07 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2007-08 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2008-09 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2009-10 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2010-11 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2011-12 NBA All-NBA (3rd)

you see all those 1st and 2nd all-nba awards? at the same age as when melo came to ny nowitzki was pulling down 12.5 million and had already achieved two all-nba second team elections. the year he won the finals MVP he earned 17.25. this past season his RPM was 5th best in the NBA.

after all of his accomplishments, each of the following three seasons after winning he title, he STILL did not earn as much annually as you expect carmelo anthony will.

best of all, and here is the crux of the matter: he agreed to take 16 million less per year on his previous 4-year contract! and this is after having shown that he is the vastly more accomplished player already!

carmelo anthiny has not done SHYTE his entire career by comparison.

in short, your initial <crickets> non-response to my question and then this utter crap response you make above shows that you are frightened of real debate... and a liar.

I am not on a device that would let me copy Melo's salary but they appear to parallel each other. Once they were done with their rookie deals. In regards to a question, I believe you asked about playoff success. I assumed you asked it to make the point that dirk had one a title and that it didn't need an answer. I still think taking 12 mil less for a guy that is 36 is different than taking less at 30. Dirk was getting paid at thirty.

I think his point was Dirk was a more accomplished player at 30 and more deserving of getting paid. And I don't think you addressed that point at all.

That was only his point after his first attempt was about how Dirk is unselfish because he is willing to take less at age 37. When at first you don't succeed try and try again.

So a person is allowed to make only a single point in an argument? That seems to be a pretty strange rule.