TeamBall wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Dagger wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Anthony met with Knicks officials in Los Angeles on Friday night. The New York Daily News reported Saturday that Anthony's camp is upset with Knicks President Phil Jackson publicly revealing he would like Anthony not to opt out of his contract by June 23 or, if he does, sign a new deal for less money.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/chi-carmelo-anthony-free-agency-20140614,0,5178435.story?track=rss
Nothing Zen about Phil using the press to pressure Melo. Is there any chance with this purge that he brings in a better player than Melo? What if Melo reacts to this by signing for less in Miami without even a sign and trade? Without nyc and nys income tax he can match the salary he would net at a much lower gross. After this past season and based on what the knick organization has done why should Melo stay? The move to complete the championship contender was getting Tyson to team up with Amare and Melo. How has that worked out? Three gms, and three coaches later and Melo is asked through the press to take less or opt in? Why? Because the future is so bright when he turns thirty one everything is going to be better? Knicks should either kiss his butt or move him. PJax misplayed this one and it could kill his five years in nyc. Talents like Melo are extremely hard to acquire. I could be wrong but I don't expect 74 year old phil looking back and saying that the day he went to the press and said Melo should take less was the moment things changed for the best for the knicks during his tenure.

How has he misplayed this? They can still trade him in a "sign and trade" if they feel he is definitely leaving. You you can't trade players with outstanding player options so they can't trade him now unless Melo opts in.

How has Phil misplayed this??...He tried to pressure Melo in the press to sign for less or not opt out all together...He misread Melo...Melo isn't that kind of guy, like him or not..He holds grudges if you are not honest and upfront with him..On top of that, you hire a rookie coach to pursue your own agenda...Phil wants his own coaching tree and he wants to prove that he and the triangle was much about winning as much as MJ, Pippen, Kobe and Shaq was...Melo is in his prime and don't want to be here to help Phil's in his pursuit to exonerate the knocks against his legacy...Melo wants to win and win now...Phil didn't hire the best candidate, he hired a coach he can control...

Melo himself said he'd take a paycut on ESPN. All Phil did was restate that. If Melo doesn't like it, then why did he say it in the first place?

And what's with your vendetta against Phil? He's barely made any moves yet.

Why does there need to be a vendetta to point out mistakes or flawed moves???...Why does it mean I'm a Phil hater..Why does it not mean I looking out for the best interest of the team over everything including Phil???...If I object to signing Odom after he quit in Dallas and Cuban asked him to leave the team...After it was reported he was smoking crack up to a year ago...After the Kardashian distraction/fiasco...It means I must hate Phil...It was reported that we first targeted Tyronn Lue, I objected because of lack of experience..Then I objected at Kerr, because of lack of experience, it became a race thing with one poster..Then I object to Fisher because of lack of experience, I must hate Phil...At the time of the press conference there were many articles written articles about why Phil took his negotiations with Melo to the press..They too must have vendettas...

All these are legitimate issues...None about hate..I will restate it, I am HAPPY we got Phil but I do not wholly endorse all of his moves...When I object, I will say it...When I agree, I will say it...Phil has mismanaged or is mismanaging the whole Melo situation thus far...I'm not going to bury my head in the sand and pretend like it's not happening...If part of fandom is being a yes man to everything, and that's what you mean by having a vendetta, then you could be right....

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Dagger wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Anthony met with Knicks officials in Los Angeles on Friday night. The New York Daily News reported Saturday that Anthony's camp is upset with Knicks President Phil Jackson publicly revealing he would like Anthony not to opt out of his contract by June 23 or, if he does, sign a new deal for less money.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/chi-carmelo-anthony-free-agency-20140614,0,5178435.story?track=rss
Nothing Zen about Phil using the press to pressure Melo. Is there any chance with this purge that he brings in a better player than Melo? What if Melo reacts to this by signing for less in Miami without even a sign and trade? Without nyc and nys income tax he can match the salary he would net at a much lower gross. After this past season and based on what the knick organization has done why should Melo stay? The move to complete the championship contender was getting Tyson to team up with Amare and Melo. How has that worked out? Three gms, and three coaches later and Melo is asked through the press to take less or opt in? Why? Because the future is so bright when he turns thirty one everything is going to be better? Knicks should either kiss his butt or move him. PJax misplayed this one and it could kill his five years in nyc. Talents like Melo are extremely hard to acquire. I could be wrong but I don't expect 74 year old phil looking back and saying that the day he went to the press and said Melo should take less was the moment things changed for the best for the knicks during his tenure.

How has he misplayed this? They can still trade him in a "sign and trade" if they feel he is definitely leaving. You you can't trade players with outstanding player options so they can't trade him now unless Melo opts in.

How has Phil misplayed this??...He tried to pressure Melo in the press to sign for less or not opt out all together...He misread Melo...Melo isn't that kind of guy, like him or not..He holds grudges if you are not honest and upfront with him..On top of that, you hire a rookie coach to pursue your own agenda...Phil wants his own coaching tree and he wants to prove that he and the triangle was much about winning as much as MJ, Pippen, Kobe and Shaq was...Melo is in his prime and don't want to be here to help Phil's in his pursuit to exonerate the knocks against his legacy...Melo wants to win and win now...Phil didn't hire the best candidate, he hired a coach he can control...

Melo himself said he'd take a paycut on ESPN. All Phil did was restate that. If Melo doesn't like it, then why did he say it in the first place?

And what's with your vendetta against Phil? He's barely made any moves yet.

Why does there need to be a vendetta to point out mistakes or flawed moves???...Why does it mean I'm a Phil hater..Why does it not mean I looking out for the best interest of the team over everything including Phil???...If I object to signing Odom after he quit in Dallas and Cuban asked him to leave the team...After it was reported he was smoking crack up to a year ago...After the Kardashian distraction/fiasco...It means I must hate Phil...It was reported that we first targeted Tyronn Lue, I objected because of lack of experience..Then I objected at Kerr, because of lack of experience, it became a race thing with one poster..Then I object to Fisher because of lack of experience, I must hate Phil...At the time of the press conference there were many articles written articles about why Phil took his negotiations with Melo to the press..They too must have vendettas...

All these are legitimate issues...None about hate..I will restate it, I am HAPPY we got Phil but I do not wholly endorse all of his moves...When I object, I will say it...When I agree, I will say it...Phil has mismanaged or is mismanaging the whole Melo situation thus far...I'm not going to bury my head in the sand and pretend like it's not happening...If part of fandom is being a yes man to everything, and that's what you mean by having a vendetta, then you could be right....

mishandling the melo situation? jackson is not interested in retaining melo and melo is not interested in remaining so it doesn't really matter what they say. the sooner you give up this delusion the better.

Ha, so why the full court press in LA??...And why is he asking him to opt in??...If Melo walks, it won't be because it was Phil's call...U must like running your own parallel story lines...

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Dagger wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Anthony met with Knicks officials in Los Angeles on Friday night. The New York Daily News reported Saturday that Anthony's camp is upset with Knicks President Phil Jackson publicly revealing he would like Anthony not to opt out of his contract by June 23 or, if he does, sign a new deal for less money.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/chi-carmelo-anthony-free-agency-20140614,0,5178435.story?track=rss
Nothing Zen about Phil using the press to pressure Melo. Is there any chance with this purge that he brings in a better player than Melo? What if Melo reacts to this by signing for less in Miami without even a sign and trade? Without nyc and nys income tax he can match the salary he would net at a much lower gross. After this past season and based on what the knick organization has done why should Melo stay? The move to complete the championship contender was getting Tyson to team up with Amare and Melo. How has that worked out? Three gms, and three coaches later and Melo is asked through the press to take less or opt in? Why? Because the future is so bright when he turns thirty one everything is going to be better? Knicks should either kiss his butt or move him. PJax misplayed this one and it could kill his five years in nyc. Talents like Melo are extremely hard to acquire. I could be wrong but I don't expect 74 year old phil looking back and saying that the day he went to the press and said Melo should take less was the moment things changed for the best for the knicks during his tenure.

How has he misplayed this? They can still trade him in a "sign and trade" if they feel he is definitely leaving. You you can't trade players with outstanding player options so they can't trade him now unless Melo opts in.

How has Phil misplayed this??...He tried to pressure Melo in the press to sign for less or not opt out all together...He misread Melo...Melo isn't that kind of guy, like him or not..He holds grudges if you are not honest and upfront with him..On top of that, you hire a rookie coach to pursue your own agenda...Phil wants his own coaching tree and he wants to prove that he and the triangle was much about winning as much as MJ, Pippen, Kobe and Shaq was...Melo is in his prime and don't want to be here to help Phil's in his pursuit to exonerate the knocks against his legacy...Melo wants to win and win now...Phil didn't hire the best candidate, he hired a coach he can control...

Melo himself said he'd take a paycut on ESPN. All Phil did was restate that. If Melo doesn't like it, then why did he say it in the first place?

And what's with your vendetta against Phil? He's barely made any moves yet.

Why does there need to be a vendetta to point out mistakes or flawed moves???...Why does it mean I'm a Phil hater..Why does it not mean I looking out for the best interest of the team over everything including Phil???...If I object to signing Odom after he quit in Dallas and Cuban asked him to leave the team...After it was reported he was smoking crack up to a year ago...After the Kardashian distraction/fiasco...It means I must hate Phil...It was reported that we first targeted Tyronn Lue, I objected because of lack of experience..Then I objected at Kerr, because of lack of experience, it became a race thing with one poster..Then I object to Fisher because of lack of experience, I must hate Phil...At the time of the press conference there were many articles written articles about why Phil took his negotiations with Melo to the press..They too must have vendettas...

All these are legitimate issues...None about hate..I will restate it, I am HAPPY we got Phil but I do not wholly endorse all of his moves...When I object, I will say it...When I agree, I will say it...Phil has mismanaged or is mismanaging the whole Melo situation thus far...I'm not going to bury my head in the sand and pretend like it's not happening...If part of fandom is being a yes man to everything, and that's what you mean by having a vendetta, then you could be right....

mishandling the melo situation? jackson is not interested in retaining melo and melo is not interested in remaining so it doesn't really matter what they say. the sooner you give up this delusion the better.

Ha, so why the full court press in LA??...And why is he asking him to opt in??...If Melo walks, it won't be because it was Phil's call...U must like running your own parallel story lines...

Honestly I think Phil wants to see what Melo can do in within a structured offense and a team of willing competitive players.

His own words were pretty much " opt in see how you like it...if you dont I understand you leaving".

If Melo leaves now he'll never know.....it's all evaluation right now with Phil.

knickscity wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Dagger wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Anthony met with Knicks officials in Los Angeles on Friday night. The New York Daily News reported Saturday that Anthony's camp is upset with Knicks President Phil Jackson publicly revealing he would like Anthony not to opt out of his contract by June 23 or, if he does, sign a new deal for less money.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/chi-carmelo-anthony-free-agency-20140614,0,5178435.story?track=rss
Nothing Zen about Phil using the press to pressure Melo. Is there any chance with this purge that he brings in a better player than Melo? What if Melo reacts to this by signing for less in Miami without even a sign and trade? Without nyc and nys income tax he can match the salary he would net at a much lower gross. After this past season and based on what the knick organization has done why should Melo stay? The move to complete the championship contender was getting Tyson to team up with Amare and Melo. How has that worked out? Three gms, and three coaches later and Melo is asked through the press to take less or opt in? Why? Because the future is so bright when he turns thirty one everything is going to be better? Knicks should either kiss his butt or move him. PJax misplayed this one and it could kill his five years in nyc. Talents like Melo are extremely hard to acquire. I could be wrong but I don't expect 74 year old phil looking back and saying that the day he went to the press and said Melo should take less was the moment things changed for the best for the knicks during his tenure.

How has he misplayed this? They can still trade him in a "sign and trade" if they feel he is definitely leaving. You you can't trade players with outstanding player options so they can't trade him now unless Melo opts in.

How has Phil misplayed this??...He tried to pressure Melo in the press to sign for less or not opt out all together...He misread Melo...Melo isn't that kind of guy, like him or not..He holds grudges if you are not honest and upfront with him..On top of that, you hire a rookie coach to pursue your own agenda...Phil wants his own coaching tree and he wants to prove that he and the triangle was much about winning as much as MJ, Pippen, Kobe and Shaq was...Melo is in his prime and don't want to be here to help Phil's in his pursuit to exonerate the knocks against his legacy...Melo wants to win and win now...Phil didn't hire the best candidate, he hired a coach he can control...

Melo himself said he'd take a paycut on ESPN. All Phil did was restate that. If Melo doesn't like it, then why did he say it in the first place?

And what's with your vendetta against Phil? He's barely made any moves yet.

Why does there need to be a vendetta to point out mistakes or flawed moves???...Why does it mean I'm a Phil hater..Why does it not mean I looking out for the best interest of the team over everything including Phil???...If I object to signing Odom after he quit in Dallas and Cuban asked him to leave the team...After it was reported he was smoking crack up to a year ago...After the Kardashian distraction/fiasco...It means I must hate Phil...It was reported that we first targeted Tyronn Lue, I objected because of lack of experience..Then I objected at Kerr, because of lack of experience, it became a race thing with one poster..Then I object to Fisher because of lack of experience, I must hate Phil...At the time of the press conference there were many articles written articles about why Phil took his negotiations with Melo to the press..They too must have vendettas...

All these are legitimate issues...None about hate..I will restate it, I am HAPPY we got Phil but I do not wholly endorse all of his moves...When I object, I will say it...When I agree, I will say it...Phil has mismanaged or is mismanaging the whole Melo situation thus far...I'm not going to bury my head in the sand and pretend like it's not happening...If part of fandom is being a yes man to everything, and that's what you mean by having a vendetta, then you could be right....

mishandling the melo situation? jackson is not interested in retaining melo and melo is not interested in remaining so it doesn't really matter what they say. the sooner you give up this delusion the better.

Ha, so why the full court press in LA??...And why is he asking him to opt in??...If Melo walks, it won't be because it was Phil's call...U must like running your own parallel story lines...

Lol...there's no full court press. All the folks were there for the Rangers and Dolan was not going to attend the meeting at all.

Honestly I think Phil wants to see what Melo can do in within a structured offense and a team of willing competitive players.

His own words were pretty much " opt in see how you like it...if you dont I understand you leaving".

If Melo leaves now he'll never know.....it's all evaluation right now with Phil.

The New York Knicks are sending a high-level delegation – including president Phil Jackson and coach Derek Fisher – to Los Angeles this weekend to sell All-Star forward Carmelo Anthony on a future with the franchise, league sources told Yahoo Sports.

New York Knicks owner James Dolan, president Phil Jackson and head coach Derek Fisher are expected to meet with likely free-agent-to-be Carmelo Anthony in Los Angeles this weekend, according to Yahoo Sports' Adrian Wojnarowski.

The Knicks’ full-court press on Anthony is unlikely to change his mind about testing free agency this summer. A league source said late Thursday night that Anthony remains committed to opting out at this point.

holfresh wrote:

knickscity wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Dagger wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Anthony met with Knicks officials in Los Angeles on Friday night. The New York Daily News reported Saturday that Anthony's camp is upset with Knicks President Phil Jackson publicly revealing he would like Anthony not to opt out of his contract by June 23 or, if he does, sign a new deal for less money.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/chi-carmelo-anthony-free-agency-20140614,0,5178435.story?track=rss
Nothing Zen about Phil using the press to pressure Melo. Is there any chance with this purge that he brings in a better player than Melo? What if Melo reacts to this by signing for less in Miami without even a sign and trade? Without nyc and nys income tax he can match the salary he would net at a much lower gross. After this past season and based on what the knick organization has done why should Melo stay? The move to complete the championship contender was getting Tyson to team up with Amare and Melo. How has that worked out? Three gms, and three coaches later and Melo is asked through the press to take less or opt in? Why? Because the future is so bright when he turns thirty one everything is going to be better? Knicks should either kiss his butt or move him. PJax misplayed this one and it could kill his five years in nyc. Talents like Melo are extremely hard to acquire. I could be wrong but I don't expect 74 year old phil looking back and saying that the day he went to the press and said Melo should take less was the moment things changed for the best for the knicks during his tenure.

How has he misplayed this? They can still trade him in a "sign and trade" if they feel he is definitely leaving. You you can't trade players with outstanding player options so they can't trade him now unless Melo opts in.

How has Phil misplayed this??...He tried to pressure Melo in the press to sign for less or not opt out all together...He misread Melo...Melo isn't that kind of guy, like him or not..He holds grudges if you are not honest and upfront with him..On top of that, you hire a rookie coach to pursue your own agenda...Phil wants his own coaching tree and he wants to prove that he and the triangle was much about winning as much as MJ, Pippen, Kobe and Shaq was...Melo is in his prime and don't want to be here to help Phil's in his pursuit to exonerate the knocks against his legacy...Melo wants to win and win now...Phil didn't hire the best candidate, he hired a coach he can control...

Melo himself said he'd take a paycut on ESPN. All Phil did was restate that. If Melo doesn't like it, then why did he say it in the first place?

And what's with your vendetta against Phil? He's barely made any moves yet.

Why does there need to be a vendetta to point out mistakes or flawed moves???...Why does it mean I'm a Phil hater..Why does it not mean I looking out for the best interest of the team over everything including Phil???...If I object to signing Odom after he quit in Dallas and Cuban asked him to leave the team...After it was reported he was smoking crack up to a year ago...After the Kardashian distraction/fiasco...It means I must hate Phil...It was reported that we first targeted Tyronn Lue, I objected because of lack of experience..Then I objected at Kerr, because of lack of experience, it became a race thing with one poster..Then I object to Fisher because of lack of experience, I must hate Phil...At the time of the press conference there were many articles written articles about why Phil took his negotiations with Melo to the press..They too must have vendettas...

All these are legitimate issues...None about hate..I will restate it, I am HAPPY we got Phil but I do not wholly endorse all of his moves...When I object, I will say it...When I agree, I will say it...Phil has mismanaged or is mismanaging the whole Melo situation thus far...I'm not going to bury my head in the sand and pretend like it's not happening...If part of fandom is being a yes man to everything, and that's what you mean by having a vendetta, then you could be right....

mishandling the melo situation? jackson is not interested in retaining melo and melo is not interested in remaining so it doesn't really matter what they say. the sooner you give up this delusion the better.

Ha, so why the full court press in LA??...And why is he asking him to opt in??...If Melo walks, it won't be because it was Phil's call...U must like running your own parallel story lines...

Lol...there's no full court press. All the folks were there for the Rangers and Dolan was not going to attend the meeting at all.

Honestly I think Phil wants to see what Melo can do in within a structured offense and a team of willing competitive players.

His own words were pretty much " opt in see how you like it...if you dont I understand you leaving".

If Melo leaves now he'll never know.....it's all evaluation right now with Phil.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--knicks--high-level-brass-meeting-with-carmelo-anthony-this-weekend-184128966.html

The New York Knicks are sending a high-level delegation – including president Phil Jackson and coach Derek Fisher – to Los Angeles this weekend to sell All-Star forward Carmelo Anthony on a future with the franchise, league sources told Yahoo Sports.

New York Knicks owner James Dolan, president Phil Jackson and head coach Derek Fisher are expected to meet with likely free-agent-to-be Carmelo Anthony in Los Angeles this weekend, according to Yahoo Sports' Adrian Wojnarowski.

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24587147/report-james-dolan-phil-jackson-derek-fisher-to-meet-with-carmelo

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/57175/sources-phil-fisher-to-meet-melo-in-l-a

The Knicks’ full-court press on Anthony is unlikely to change his mind about testing free agency this summer. A league source said late Thursday night that Anthony remains committed to opting out at this point.

Don't take my word for it....

it's a low-class move to make a guy like jackson, who has been clear about the challenges of traveling, go all the way out to los angeles.

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

knickscity wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Dagger wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Anthony met with Knicks officials in Los Angeles on Friday night. The New York Daily News reported Saturday that Anthony's camp is upset with Knicks President Phil Jackson publicly revealing he would like Anthony not to opt out of his contract by June 23 or, if he does, sign a new deal for less money.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/chi-carmelo-anthony-free-agency-20140614,0,5178435.story?track=rss
Nothing Zen about Phil using the press to pressure Melo. Is there any chance with this purge that he brings in a better player than Melo? What if Melo reacts to this by signing for less in Miami without even a sign and trade? Without nyc and nys income tax he can match the salary he would net at a much lower gross. After this past season and based on what the knick organization has done why should Melo stay? The move to complete the championship contender was getting Tyson to team up with Amare and Melo. How has that worked out? Three gms, and three coaches later and Melo is asked through the press to take less or opt in? Why? Because the future is so bright when he turns thirty one everything is going to be better? Knicks should either kiss his butt or move him. PJax misplayed this one and it could kill his five years in nyc. Talents like Melo are extremely hard to acquire. I could be wrong but I don't expect 74 year old phil looking back and saying that the day he went to the press and said Melo should take less was the moment things changed for the best for the knicks during his tenure.

How has he misplayed this? They can still trade him in a "sign and trade" if they feel he is definitely leaving. You you can't trade players with outstanding player options so they can't trade him now unless Melo opts in.

How has Phil misplayed this??...He tried to pressure Melo in the press to sign for less or not opt out all together...He misread Melo...Melo isn't that kind of guy, like him or not..He holds grudges if you are not honest and upfront with him..On top of that, you hire a rookie coach to pursue your own agenda...Phil wants his own coaching tree and he wants to prove that he and the triangle was much about winning as much as MJ, Pippen, Kobe and Shaq was...Melo is in his prime and don't want to be here to help Phil's in his pursuit to exonerate the knocks against his legacy...Melo wants to win and win now...Phil didn't hire the best candidate, he hired a coach he can control...

Melo himself said he'd take a paycut on ESPN. All Phil did was restate that. If Melo doesn't like it, then why did he say it in the first place?

And what's with your vendetta against Phil? He's barely made any moves yet.

Why does there need to be a vendetta to point out mistakes or flawed moves???...Why does it mean I'm a Phil hater..Why does it not mean I looking out for the best interest of the team over everything including Phil???...If I object to signing Odom after he quit in Dallas and Cuban asked him to leave the team...After it was reported he was smoking crack up to a year ago...After the Kardashian distraction/fiasco...It means I must hate Phil...It was reported that we first targeted Tyronn Lue, I objected because of lack of experience..Then I objected at Kerr, because of lack of experience, it became a race thing with one poster..Then I object to Fisher because of lack of experience, I must hate Phil...At the time of the press conference there were many articles written articles about why Phil took his negotiations with Melo to the press..They too must have vendettas...

All these are legitimate issues...None about hate..I will restate it, I am HAPPY we got Phil but I do not wholly endorse all of his moves...When I object, I will say it...When I agree, I will say it...Phil has mismanaged or is mismanaging the whole Melo situation thus far...I'm not going to bury my head in the sand and pretend like it's not happening...If part of fandom is being a yes man to everything, and that's what you mean by having a vendetta, then you could be right....

mishandling the melo situation? jackson is not interested in retaining melo and melo is not interested in remaining so it doesn't really matter what they say. the sooner you give up this delusion the better.

Ha, so why the full court press in LA??...And why is he asking him to opt in??...If Melo walks, it won't be because it was Phil's call...U must like running your own parallel story lines...

Lol...there's no full court press. All the folks were there for the Rangers and Dolan was not going to attend the meeting at all.

Honestly I think Phil wants to see what Melo can do in within a structured offense and a team of willing competitive players.

His own words were pretty much " opt in see how you like it...if you dont I understand you leaving".

If Melo leaves now he'll never know.....it's all evaluation right now with Phil.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--knicks--high-level-brass-meeting-with-carmelo-anthony-this-weekend-184128966.html

The New York Knicks are sending a high-level delegation – including president Phil Jackson and coach Derek Fisher – to Los Angeles this weekend to sell All-Star forward Carmelo Anthony on a future with the franchise, league sources told Yahoo Sports.

New York Knicks owner James Dolan, president Phil Jackson and head coach Derek Fisher are expected to meet with likely free-agent-to-be Carmelo Anthony in Los Angeles this weekend, according to Yahoo Sports' Adrian Wojnarowski.

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24587147/report-james-dolan-phil-jackson-derek-fisher-to-meet-with-carmelo

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/57175/sources-phil-fisher-to-meet-melo-in-l-a

The Knicks’ full-court press on Anthony is unlikely to change his mind about testing free agency this summer. A league source said late Thursday night that Anthony remains committed to opting out at this point.

Don't take my word for it....

it's a low-class move to make a guy like jackson, who has been clear about the challenges of traveling, go all the way out to los angeles.

TeamBall wrote:

holfresh wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Dagger wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Anthony met with Knicks officials in Los Angeles on Friday night. The New York Daily News reported Saturday that Anthony's camp is upset with Knicks President Phil Jackson publicly revealing he would like Anthony not to opt out of his contract by June 23 or, if he does, sign a new deal for less money.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/chi-carmelo-anthony-free-agency-20140614,0,5178435.story?track=rss
Nothing Zen about Phil using the press to pressure Melo. Is there any chance with this purge that he brings in a better player than Melo? What if Melo reacts to this by signing for less in Miami without even a sign and trade? Without nyc and nys income tax he can match the salary he would net at a much lower gross. After this past season and based on what the knick organization has done why should Melo stay? The move to complete the championship contender was getting Tyson to team up with Amare and Melo. How has that worked out? Three gms, and three coaches later and Melo is asked through the press to take less or opt in? Why? Because the future is so bright when he turns thirty one everything is going to be better? Knicks should either kiss his butt or move him. PJax misplayed this one and it could kill his five years in nyc. Talents like Melo are extremely hard to acquire. I could be wrong but I don't expect 74 year old phil looking back and saying that the day he went to the press and said Melo should take less was the moment things changed for the best for the knicks during his tenure.

How has he misplayed this? They can still trade him in a "sign and trade" if they feel he is definitely leaving. You you can't trade players with outstanding player options so they can't trade him now unless Melo opts in.

How has Phil misplayed this??...He tried to pressure Melo in the press to sign for less or not opt out all together...He misread Melo...Melo isn't that kind of guy, like him or not..He holds grudges if you are not honest and upfront with him..On top of that, you hire a rookie coach to pursue your own agenda...Phil wants his own coaching tree and he wants to prove that he and the triangle was much about winning as much as MJ, Pippen, Kobe and Shaq was...Melo is in his prime and don't want to be here to help Phil's in his pursuit to exonerate the knocks against his legacy...Melo wants to win and win now...Phil didn't hire the best candidate, he hired a coach he can control...

Melo himself said he'd take a paycut on ESPN. All Phil did was restate that. If Melo doesn't like it, then why did he say it in the first place?

And what's with your vendetta against Phil? He's barely made any moves yet.

Why does there need to be a vendetta to point out mistakes or flawed moves???...Why does it mean I'm a Phil hater..Why does it not mean I looking out for the best interest of the team over everything including Phil???...If I object to signing Odom after he quit in Dallas and Cuban asked him to leave the team...After it was reported he was smoking crack up to a year ago...After the Kardashian distraction/fiasco...It means I must hate Phil...It was reported that we first targeted Tyronn Lue, I objected because of lack of experience..Then I objected at Kerr, because of lack of experience, it became a race thing with one poster..Then I object to Fisher because of lack of experience, I must hate Phil...At the time of the press conference there were many articles written articles about why Phil took his negotiations with Melo to the press..They too must have vendettas...

All these are legitimate issues...None about hate..I will restate it, I am HAPPY we got Phil but I do not wholly endorse all of his moves...When I object, I will say it...When I agree, I will say it...Phil has mismanaged or is mismanaging the whole Melo situation thus far...I'm not going to bury my head in the sand and pretend like it's not happening...If part of fandom is being a yes man to everything, and that's what you mean by having a vendetta, then you could be right....

Because on several occasions I've noticed you've gone out of your way to mention that Phil wanted a guy he could control and this topic doesn't even have to do with his coach search. Just an observation.

I still don't see how Phil messed up by reiteration what Melo himself said earlier.

Is this a lie???...Phil plans on running training camp...What experienced coach would allow him to do that???..I bring up his coaching search as it pertains to Melo and his decision...

holfresh wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

holfresh wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Dagger wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Anthony met with Knicks officials in Los Angeles on Friday night. The New York Daily News reported Saturday that Anthony's camp is upset with Knicks President Phil Jackson publicly revealing he would like Anthony not to opt out of his contract by June 23 or, if he does, sign a new deal for less money.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/chi-carmelo-anthony-free-agency-20140614,0,5178435.story?track=rss
Nothing Zen about Phil using the press to pressure Melo. Is there any chance with this purge that he brings in a better player than Melo? What if Melo reacts to this by signing for less in Miami without even a sign and trade? Without nyc and nys income tax he can match the salary he would net at a much lower gross. After this past season and based on what the knick organization has done why should Melo stay? The move to complete the championship contender was getting Tyson to team up with Amare and Melo. How has that worked out? Three gms, and three coaches later and Melo is asked through the press to take less or opt in? Why? Because the future is so bright when he turns thirty one everything is going to be better? Knicks should either kiss his butt or move him. PJax misplayed this one and it could kill his five years in nyc. Talents like Melo are extremely hard to acquire. I could be wrong but I don't expect 74 year old phil looking back and saying that the day he went to the press and said Melo should take less was the moment things changed for the best for the knicks during his tenure.

How has he misplayed this? They can still trade him in a "sign and trade" if they feel he is definitely leaving. You you can't trade players with outstanding player options so they can't trade him now unless Melo opts in.

How has Phil misplayed this??...He tried to pressure Melo in the press to sign for less or not opt out all together...He misread Melo...Melo isn't that kind of guy, like him or not..He holds grudges if you are not honest and upfront with him..On top of that, you hire a rookie coach to pursue your own agenda...Phil wants his own coaching tree and he wants to prove that he and the triangle was much about winning as much as MJ, Pippen, Kobe and Shaq was...Melo is in his prime and don't want to be here to help Phil's in his pursuit to exonerate the knocks against his legacy...Melo wants to win and win now...Phil didn't hire the best candidate, he hired a coach he can control...

Melo himself said he'd take a paycut on ESPN. All Phil did was restate that. If Melo doesn't like it, then why did he say it in the first place?

And what's with your vendetta against Phil? He's barely made any moves yet.

Why does there need to be a vendetta to point out mistakes or flawed moves???...Why does it mean I'm a Phil hater..Why does it not mean I looking out for the best interest of the team over everything including Phil???...If I object to signing Odom after he quit in Dallas and Cuban asked him to leave the team...After it was reported he was smoking crack up to a year ago...After the Kardashian distraction/fiasco...It means I must hate Phil...It was reported that we first targeted Tyronn Lue, I objected because of lack of experience..Then I objected at Kerr, because of lack of experience, it became a race thing with one poster..Then I object to Fisher because of lack of experience, I must hate Phil...At the time of the press conference there were many articles written articles about why Phil took his negotiations with Melo to the press..They too must have vendettas...

All these are legitimate issues...None about hate..I will restate it, I am HAPPY we got Phil but I do not wholly endorse all of his moves...When I object, I will say it...When I agree, I will say it...Phil has mismanaged or is mismanaging the whole Melo situation thus far...I'm not going to bury my head in the sand and pretend like it's not happening...If part of fandom is being a yes man to everything, and that's what you mean by having a vendetta, then you could be right....

Because on several occasions I've noticed you've gone out of your way to mention that Phil wanted a guy he could control and this topic doesn't even have to do with his coach search. Just an observation.

I still don't see how Phil messed up by reiteration what Melo himself said earlier.

Is this a lie???...Phil plans on running training camp...I bring up his coaching search as it pertains to Melo and his decision...

To be clear, I'm not accusing you of being a "hater". It just seemed as if you weren't a fan of Phil and I was curious as to why. The "guy he can control" thing is a pretty loaded comment.

holfresh wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

holfresh wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

holfresh wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Dagger wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Anthony met with Knicks officials in Los Angeles on Friday night. The New York Daily News reported Saturday that Anthony's camp is upset with Knicks President Phil Jackson publicly revealing he would like Anthony not to opt out of his contract by June 23 or, if he does, sign a new deal for less money.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/chi-carmelo-anthony-free-agency-20140614,0,5178435.story?track=rss
Nothing Zen about Phil using the press to pressure Melo. Is there any chance with this purge that he brings in a better player than Melo? What if Melo reacts to this by signing for less in Miami without even a sign and trade? Without nyc and nys income tax he can match the salary he would net at a much lower gross. After this past season and based on what the knick organization has done why should Melo stay? The move to complete the championship contender was getting Tyson to team up with Amare and Melo. How has that worked out? Three gms, and three coaches later and Melo is asked through the press to take less or opt in? Why? Because the future is so bright when he turns thirty one everything is going to be better? Knicks should either kiss his butt or move him. PJax misplayed this one and it could kill his five years in nyc. Talents like Melo are extremely hard to acquire. I could be wrong but I don't expect 74 year old phil looking back and saying that the day he went to the press and said Melo should take less was the moment things changed for the best for the knicks during his tenure.

How has he misplayed this? They can still trade him in a "sign and trade" if they feel he is definitely leaving. You you can't trade players with outstanding player options so they can't trade him now unless Melo opts in.

How has Phil misplayed this??...He tried to pressure Melo in the press to sign for less or not opt out all together...He misread Melo...Melo isn't that kind of guy, like him or not..He holds grudges if you are not honest and upfront with him..On top of that, you hire a rookie coach to pursue your own agenda...Phil wants his own coaching tree and he wants to prove that he and the triangle was much about winning as much as MJ, Pippen, Kobe and Shaq was...Melo is in his prime and don't want to be here to help Phil's in his pursuit to exonerate the knocks against his legacy...Melo wants to win and win now...Phil didn't hire the best candidate, he hired a coach he can control...

Melo himself said he'd take a paycut on ESPN. All Phil did was restate that. If Melo doesn't like it, then why did he say it in the first place?

And what's with your vendetta against Phil? He's barely made any moves yet.

Why does there need to be a vendetta to point out mistakes or flawed moves???...Why does it mean I'm a Phil hater..Why does it not mean I looking out for the best interest of the team over everything including Phil???...If I object to signing Odom after he quit in Dallas and Cuban asked him to leave the team...After it was reported he was smoking crack up to a year ago...After the Kardashian distraction/fiasco...It means I must hate Phil...It was reported that we first targeted Tyronn Lue, I objected because of lack of experience..Then I objected at Kerr, because of lack of experience, it became a race thing with one poster..Then I object to Fisher because of lack of experience, I must hate Phil...At the time of the press conference there were many articles written articles about why Phil took his negotiations with Melo to the press..They too must have vendettas...

All these are legitimate issues...None about hate..I will restate it, I am HAPPY we got Phil but I do not wholly endorse all of his moves...When I object, I will say it...When I agree, I will say it...Phil has mismanaged or is mismanaging the whole Melo situation thus far...I'm not going to bury my head in the sand and pretend like it's not happening...If part of fandom is being a yes man to everything, and that's what you mean by having a vendetta, then you could be right....

Because on several occasions I've noticed you've gone out of your way to mention that Phil wanted a guy he could control and this topic doesn't even have to do with his coach search. Just an observation.

I still don't see how Phil messed up by reiteration what Melo himself said earlier.

Is this a lie???...Phil plans on running training camp...I bring up his coaching search as it pertains to Melo and his decision...

I just don't see what that has to do with Melo at all. He hired Fisher because he wants a guy he's familiar with that knows the triangle which is something he wants to run. That is part of mishandling the Melo situation? Maybe it's a change of not letting Melo decide who our coach is, especially when we're not even sure if he's staying. I remember in 2010 there was a report that Lebron wanted his coach to be a former player. The Cavs went and got Byron Scott and Lebron went to Miami anyway.

To be clear, I'm not accusing you of being a "hater". It just seemed as if you weren't a fan of Phil and I was curious as to why. The "guy he can control" thing is a pretty loaded comment.

I'm not a fan of Phil's initial moves which is what I have commented on...To me, it seems he is making moves to suit his own interest more so than the team's interest...Phil wants his own coaching tree...I think there are plenty of more qualified coaches out there who Phil could have targeted..Coaches who can run a system...But he was to do things like run training camp and practices...

In my humble opinion, I don't think Melo is hanging out for a rookie coach to get his coaching legs..Look around the league, Spo is still trying to get his legs as a coach under him...We won't know who he really is until LeBron leaves...Vogel still has a ways to go...Mark Jackson still has a ways to go...Scott Brook still has a long way to go...Who wants to wait to see what Fisher will be in 3 or 4 years??..You don't think that this is a factor???