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5/15/2014  12:32 PM
NardDogNation wrote:
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gunsnewing wrote:Kerr has teenage kids why relocate the family now?

Because they are teenagers and it's time to take the tit out of their mouths. When I was their age teen, I was boning my girlfriend on the regular and worked after school. They can handle their Dad being gone a few weeks out of the year. Besides, aren't most of his kids in college/going to college?

Your future kids salute you and your arrested adolescent approach to 21st century parenting.

If it was an opportunity to better understand what the responsibilities of a job were like, then yeah. But, I was doing it out of need to pay for college, which ended up in me averaging about 4 hours of sleep a night and a host of health problems (e.g. bouts of depression, chronic exhaustion, heart problems, stunted growth at 6"2' and this weird **** where ever 1.5 years my T-cells drop below 500 and my doctor's think I have cancer...only to not bother to follow up on it because I have/had ****ty insurance). I wouldn't recommend that grind to any developing adult.

Jeez, yeah, that doesn't sound like a lifestyle recommendation to anyone, let alone kids. Ditto on the college costs; it took me 20 ****ing years to pay off my GSL's...

All in all, I'd think the Kerr kids can survive better with Dad a short commuter flight away, like they did when he was in Phoenix.
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5/15/2014  12:35 PM
NardDogNation wrote:
Vmart wrote:
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Markji wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
Markji wrote:I don't think family is the "main" reason Kerr took GS offer. San Francisco is 500 miles from San Diego. Yes they are in the same time zone, which makes it easier but to put this in perspective 500 miles south from Manhattan brings you to Raleigh - Durham North Carolina. Not isn't being close to one's family.

I think the real reasons have already been stated:
1. The money
2. GS has a solid team while the Knicks don't. And no cap space and no draft picks
3. Dolan's reputation.

I think Kerr considered the Knicks because of Phil Jackson. But the GS offer was too much to pass up (due to pts 1 and 2)

3,000 miles and 500 miles. Math isn't really your thing, is it?


Oh, wrong. I majored in Math in college for the first 2 yrs. Then switched to engineering.
The point I was making is that 500 miles away isn't being "close to home."
3,000 miles is further than 500 miles. I get that. But neither is being close to home.

If Kerr is focused on being a head coach, there won't be many opportunities during the season to just kick back and spend time with the family - whether they are 500 miles away or 3,000 miles away.

Yup, and what's the difference between 500 miles and 3000 miles, a couple hours on a plane flight? You're not driving 500 miles back and forth like it's nothing, that drive takes at least a day, it's not some casual thing.

I don't blame Kerr this winter was brutal. Even I'm thinking about leaving for a warmer place.

Yeah, you can leave and go South to escape the winter. The only problem is that you'd be living in the South, where old people and dreams go to die, lol.

I don't know man a lot of my friends and family have left NY and all they do is praise where they are. My friends that went to Texas all live in what would be a mansion in these parts and to boot they get paid the same and no F'ing state taxes.
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5/15/2014  12:36 PM
jrodmc wrote:
tkf wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
Markji wrote:I don't think family is the "main" reason Kerr took GS offer. San Francisco is 500 miles from San Diego. Yes they are in the same time zone, which makes it easier but to put this in perspective 500 miles south from Manhattan brings you to Raleigh - Durham North Carolina. Not isn't being close to one's family.

I think the real reasons have already been stated:
1. The money
2. GS has a solid team while the Knicks don't. And no cap space and no draft picks
3. Dolan's reputation.

I think Kerr considered the Knicks because of Phil Jackson. But the GS offer was too much to pass up (due to pts 1 and 2)

3,000 miles and 500 miles. Math isn't really your thing, is it?

and accepting reality doesn't seem to be yours.. if you think the only reason or main reason he took the GS job was because of family, then you are fooling yourself.. if his family was in NY, I still think he takes the GS job, for the reasons markji listed, especially..

let me ask you this.. if the Sac kings offered him the job, do you think he takes that over the knicks?

Reality, how about taking what the man actually said and stop imprinting it with your. What's he going to mislead anyone for? To keep the lines open in case he ever wants to coach in NYC? To hope he gets Father of the Year award?

Let me ask you this, how far was Phoenix from La Jolla? The man flew home on weekdays to watch his son play ball. Maybe that gets old after awhile. Flying back and forth without any more stress than wondering how you look and sound on TV, I would guess, doesn't add up to the amount of potential stress of dealing with NYC as a coach. But that's just my take on reality.

I've also mentioned in other threads that he probably didn't like the idea of waiting 4 or 5 years for Lebron to fail.

And stop with the stupid alternate scenarios. You pull enough sheehit out of your azz.

Regardless of what, i belive fam comes first, and GS sold him on the franchise(knicks) reputation with some major coaches especially Larry brown, MDA and lenny wilkens, not to mention how the shafted walsh.

kerr never believed in the knicks (ever), and only considered this job because of phil (my friend and mentor), and at the time, didn't really have any other appealing coaching position. But If i'm kerr and i was from NY and i got offered a job 3000 miles away, paying essentially the same thing, and knowing the history gs( if they had the knicks reputation) im staying my ass on the east coast..

It was almost a no brainer

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5/15/2014  12:45 PM
GS will visit LA 4 times and they didn't have back to back road games in LA for each of clips or Lakes. Possible he can chill at hime a day here or there. 500 miles is a 1:20 min flight vs. 6. Round trip your looking at 12 hours vs. 2:40. If your doing some netJets and pay by the hour of flight time the cost is very small compared. Dude can flight home after a game and let an assitant run practice once in a while and get time with the family.
Daughter plays volley ball for Cali so Wifey can come up and visit and see games. Very cozy. IN NYC, its not doable.
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5/15/2014  1:47 PM
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grillco wrote:Let's flip it and think about how Kerr screwed up:

1) NY is potentially one year away from a clean slate. Maybe even a team with a discounted Melo and the cap space and flexibility to get him a partner and some significant other tools to be a contender. A team built in Phil's image and that Kerr could have developed. GS has it's team in place and expectations, which leads to...

2) GS just fired the coach that has given them the most success they've had in decades. It's not like they lost to a bad team, the Clippers faltered a bit and then were empowered by Sterling's stupidity and prejudice. They are an elite team and I'm not sure the Warriors are just yet. This is not an organization that has done well by its coaches.

3) As such Kerr isn't likely to get any leeway and has actually more pressure than he would in NY to maintain a high success level in what is historically the better conference. Anything less than a second round berth would be a failure.

4) No mentorship from Phil. That alone would theoretically be worth its experience weight in gold.

I don't know that his rejecting NY will have any effect on the Knicks. But I we'll certainly see how things play out for him in GS. That said, unlike Marc Jackson I have no interest in Kerr or the Warriors (though I'd like to see Lee succeed), so I won't be keeping any sort of track.

While all of that may be true, it does not nullify my earlier points. Losing Kerr just doesn't look good and sends a bunch of subliminal messages that debases our image to prospective players/employees.

I wasn't trying to nullify anything, so that's cool. While I hear what you're saying, Kerr is nothing at this point except a wickedly overpaid total novice coach. The Knicks not overpaying for him and his lack of experience is fine with me. They already did that with Phil.

If I'm a player, I more interested in playing for a winning coach than a rookie with NO prior coaching experience. Lemonhead would be good, JVG (though I doubt he'd ever come back MSG in general and likely wouldn't want to work for Phil), and others. It wouldn't be unheard of that currently employed NBA head coaches are tabbed for interviews (along with the require permission from their organizations). The best thing Kerr had going for him? He doesn't have a coaching style, so Phil could have shaped him. But would that guarantee him being a good coach?

There are plenty of other options and folks that will be willing to accept the challenge of coaching in NY. This means nothing. I think it speaks more to Phil's style of focusing on one target. It didn't work out so he'll move on.
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5/15/2014  1:59 PM
jrodmc wrote:
tkf wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
Markji wrote:I don't think family is the "main" reason Kerr took GS offer. San Francisco is 500 miles from San Diego. Yes they are in the same time zone, which makes it easier but to put this in perspective 500 miles south from Manhattan brings you to Raleigh - Durham North Carolina. Not isn't being close to one's family.

I think the real reasons have already been stated:
1. The money
2. GS has a solid team while the Knicks don't. And no cap space and no draft picks
3. Dolan's reputation.

I think Kerr considered the Knicks because of Phil Jackson. But the GS offer was too much to pass up (due to pts 1 and 2)

3,000 miles and 500 miles. Math isn't really your thing, is it?

and accepting reality doesn't seem to be yours.. if you think the only reason or main reason he took the GS job was because of family, then you are fooling yourself.. if his family was in NY, I still think he takes the GS job, for the reasons markji listed, especially..

let me ask you this.. if the Sac kings offered him the job, do you think he takes that over the knicks?

Reality, how about taking what the man actually said and stop imprinting it with your. What's he going to mislead anyone for? To keep the lines open in case he ever wants to coach in NYC? To hope he gets Father of the Year award?

Let me ask you this, how far was Phoenix from La Jolla? The man flew home on weekdays to watch his son play ball. Maybe that gets old after awhile. Flying back and forth without any more stress than wondering how you look and sound on TV, I would guess, doesn't add up to the amount of potential stress of dealing with NYC as a coach. But that's just my take on reality.

I've also mentioned in other threads that he probably didn't like the idea of waiting 4 or 5 years for Lebron to fail.

And stop with the stupid alternate scenarios. You pull enough sheehit out of your azz.

DURING the season steve kerr won't have much time as a coach to watch his son play ball, or do a lot of family things.. doesn't matter if he is living around the corner from the arena..... coaching in the NBA is a demanding job, and demands a lot of your time.. he has the off season to be anywhere in the world he wants..

So now you want to take what people say for their word? haha, ok, so I am sure you are hanging onto carmelo saying he would take a pay cut... right?

you sound like you are in denial.. he didn't come to NY because this situation sucked and GS didn't..

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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5/15/2014  2:03 PM
NardDogNation wrote:
Vmart wrote:
Dagger wrote:
Markji wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
Markji wrote:I don't think family is the "main" reason Kerr took GS offer. San Francisco is 500 miles from San Diego. Yes they are in the same time zone, which makes it easier but to put this in perspective 500 miles south from Manhattan brings you to Raleigh - Durham North Carolina. Not isn't being close to one's family.

I think the real reasons have already been stated:
1. The money
2. GS has a solid team while the Knicks don't. And no cap space and no draft picks
3. Dolan's reputation.

I think Kerr considered the Knicks because of Phil Jackson. But the GS offer was too much to pass up (due to pts 1 and 2)

3,000 miles and 500 miles. Math isn't really your thing, is it?


Oh, wrong. I majored in Math in college for the first 2 yrs. Then switched to engineering.
The point I was making is that 500 miles away isn't being "close to home."
3,000 miles is further than 500 miles. I get that. But neither is being close to home.

If Kerr is focused on being a head coach, there won't be many opportunities during the season to just kick back and spend time with the family - whether they are 500 miles away or 3,000 miles away.

Yup, and what's the difference between 500 miles and 3000 miles, a couple hours on a plane flight? You're not driving 500 miles back and forth like it's nothing, that drive takes at least a day, it's not some casual thing.

I don't blame Kerr this winter was brutal. Even I'm thinking about leaving for a warmer place.

Yeah, you can leave and go South to escape the winter. The only problem is that you'd be living in the South, where old people and dreams go to die, lol.

Growing up in NY was cool for me, but all you have to do is come down south to Georgia and see how a lot of people here live, that are not rich and you will be packing your bags tomorrow...

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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5/15/2014  2:11 PM
tkf wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
tkf wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
Markji wrote:I don't think family is the "main" reason Kerr took GS offer. San Francisco is 500 miles from San Diego. Yes they are in the same time zone, which makes it easier but to put this in perspective 500 miles south from Manhattan brings you to Raleigh - Durham North Carolina. Not isn't being close to one's family.

I think the real reasons have already been stated:
1. The money
2. GS has a solid team while the Knicks don't. And no cap space and no draft picks
3. Dolan's reputation.

I think Kerr considered the Knicks because of Phil Jackson. But the GS offer was too much to pass up (due to pts 1 and 2)

3,000 miles and 500 miles. Math isn't really your thing, is it?

and accepting reality doesn't seem to be yours.. if you think the only reason or main reason he took the GS job was because of family, then you are fooling yourself.. if his family was in NY, I still think he takes the GS job, for the reasons markji listed, especially..

let me ask you this.. if the Sac kings offered him the job, do you think he takes that over the knicks?

Reality, how about taking what the man actually said and stop imprinting it with your. What's he going to mislead anyone for? To keep the lines open in case he ever wants to coach in NYC? To hope he gets Father of the Year award?

Let me ask you this, how far was Phoenix from La Jolla? The man flew home on weekdays to watch his son play ball. Maybe that gets old after awhile. Flying back and forth without any more stress than wondering how you look and sound on TV, I would guess, doesn't add up to the amount of potential stress of dealing with NYC as a coach. But that's just my take on reality.

I've also mentioned in other threads that he probably didn't like the idea of waiting 4 or 5 years for Lebron to fail.

And stop with the stupid alternate scenarios. You pull enough sheehit out of your azz.

DURING the season steve kerr won't have much time as a coach to watch his son play ball, or do a lot of family things.. doesn't matter if he is living around the corner from the arena..... coaching in the NBA is a demanding job, and demands a lot of your time.. he has the off season to be anywhere in the world he wants..

So now you want to take what people say for their word? haha, ok, so I am sure you are hanging onto carmelo saying he would take a pay cut... right?

you sound like you are in denial.. he didn't come to NY because this situation sucked and GS didn't..

And you sound incoherent as usual. So Kerr's words = Melo's words? Nice of you to bring up Melo. Can't help yourself, can you? LMFAO
I thought you thought more highly of Kerr than equating him with your own personal antichrist?

He's smart enough to know coaching the Knicks sucks worse 5 miles away than coaching GS 12,000 miles away, but he's not smart enough to blame it on something other than 3000 miles of distance from his family. Who's he obviously devoted to. And not by just sending checks and tweets. He actually wants to be there.

And this is all true, because in tkf world, everything Knicks sux since The Trade. Have you ever entertained becoming a Hawks fan?
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5/15/2014  4:19 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/15/2014  6:01 PM
If we had signed him we would have got blasted for overpaying a coach with zero experience and how it would be a risk etc etc, now we didn't sign him we get blasted for not over paying him- yawn.
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5/15/2014  4:21 PM
Exactly
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5/15/2014  4:25 PM
Agreed bare minimum is a pg who can shoot the 3. Doesn't need huge scoring and assist numbers depending on he system but must htt open 3s. That is not Raymknd James Felton
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5/15/2014  5:57 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/15/2014  6:01 PM
jrodmc wrote:
tkf wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
tkf wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
Markji wrote:I don't think family is the "main" reason Kerr took GS offer. San Francisco is 500 miles from San Diego. Yes they are in the same time zone, which makes it easier but to put this in perspective 500 miles south from Manhattan brings you to Raleigh - Durham North Carolina. Not isn't being close to one's family.

I think the real reasons have already been stated:
1. The money
2. GS has a solid team while the Knicks don't. And no cap space and no draft picks
3. Dolan's reputation.

I think Kerr considered the Knicks because of Phil Jackson. But the GS offer was too much to pass up (due to pts 1 and 2)

3,000 miles and 500 miles. Math isn't really your thing, is it?

and accepting reality doesn't seem to be yours.. if you think the only reason or main reason he took the GS job was because of family, then you are fooling yourself.. if his family was in NY, I still think he takes the GS job, for the reasons markji listed, especially..

let me ask you this.. if the Sac kings offered him the job, do you think he takes that over the knicks?

Reality, how about taking what the man actually said and stop imprinting it with your. What's he going to mislead anyone for? To keep the lines open in case he ever wants to coach in NYC? To hope he gets Father of the Year award?

Let me ask you this, how far was Phoenix from La Jolla? The man flew home on weekdays to watch his son play ball. Maybe that gets old after awhile. Flying back and forth without any more stress than wondering how you look and sound on TV, I would guess, doesn't add up to the amount of potential stress of dealing with NYC as a coach. But that's just my take on reality.

I've also mentioned in other threads that he probably didn't like the idea of waiting 4 or 5 years for Lebron to fail.

And stop with the stupid alternate scenarios. You pull enough sheehit out of your azz.

DURING the season steve kerr won't have much time as a coach to watch his son play ball, or do a lot of family things.. doesn't matter if he is living around the corner from the arena..... coaching in the NBA is a demanding job, and demands a lot of your time.. he has the off season to be anywhere in the world he wants..

So now you want to take what people say for their word? haha, ok, so I am sure you are hanging onto carmelo saying he would take a pay cut... right?

you sound like you are in denial.. he didn't come to NY because this situation sucked and GS didn't..

And you sound incoherent as usual. So Kerr's words = Melo's words? Nice of you to bring up Melo. Can't help yourself, can you? LMFAO
I thought you thought more highly of Kerr than equating him with your own personal antichrist?

He's smart enough to know coaching the Knicks sucks worse 5 miles away than coaching GS 12,000 miles away, but he's not smart enough to blame it on something other than 3000 miles of distance from his family. Who's he obviously devoted to. And not by just sending checks and tweets. He actually wants to be there.

And this is all true, because in tkf world, everything Knicks sux since The Trade. Have you ever entertained becoming a Hawks fan?

incoherent? what I am trying to tell you is to stop acting like you need therapy... you have a hard time facing reality.. kerr didn't pick the knicks because we are a mess.. there was a better situation in GS.. all of this wanting to be with the kids is just a way for you to make you feel better about our situation..

Have you entertained stepping into reality?


So Kerr's words = Melo's words?

no,I don't think you are that dense to understand what I mean.. if you say you are taking kerr's words for exactly what they are, then I am sure you are going to do the same for carmelo.. right? he already said he is taking a pay cut.. and you believe that.. right?

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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5/15/2014  7:39 PM
tkf wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
tkf wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
Markji wrote:I don't think family is the "main" reason Kerr took GS offer. San Francisco is 500 miles from San Diego. Yes they are in the same time zone, which makes it easier but to put this in perspective 500 miles south from Manhattan brings you to Raleigh - Durham North Carolina. Not isn't being close to one's family.

I think the real reasons have already been stated:
1. The money
2. GS has a solid team while the Knicks don't. And no cap space and no draft picks
3. Dolan's reputation.

I think Kerr considered the Knicks because of Phil Jackson. But the GS offer was too much to pass up (due to pts 1 and 2)

3,000 miles and 500 miles. Math isn't really your thing, is it?

and accepting reality doesn't seem to be yours.. if you think the only reason or main reason he took the GS job was because of family, then you are fooling yourself.. if his family was in NY, I still think he takes the GS job, for the reasons markji listed, especially..

let me ask you this.. if the Sac kings offered him the job, do you think he takes that over the knicks?

Reality, how about taking what the man actually said and stop imprinting it with your. What's he going to mislead anyone for? To keep the lines open in case he ever wants to coach in NYC? To hope he gets Father of the Year award?

Let me ask you this, how far was Phoenix from La Jolla? The man flew home on weekdays to watch his son play ball. Maybe that gets old after awhile. Flying back and forth without any more stress than wondering how you look and sound on TV, I would guess, doesn't add up to the amount of potential stress of dealing with NYC as a coach. But that's just my take on reality.

I've also mentioned in other threads that he probably didn't like the idea of waiting 4 or 5 years for Lebron to fail.

And stop with the stupid alternate scenarios. You pull enough sheehit out of your azz.

DURING the season steve kerr won't have much time as a coach to watch his son play ball, or do a lot of family things.. doesn't matter if he is living around the corner from the arena..... coaching in the NBA is a demanding job, and demands a lot of your time.. he has the off season to be anywhere in the world he wants..

So now you want to take what people say for their word? haha, ok, so I am sure you are hanging onto carmelo saying he would take a pay cut... right?

you sound like you are in denial.. he didn't come to NY because this situation sucked and GS didn't..


Apparently mark Jackson took time to go back home, preach and would not move to the bay area to be closer to the warriors. Half way through his coaching tenure this became an issue for management. It will be interesting to see if over the next 5 years Kerr's desire to be near family in so cal is a problem. G
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