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WP76
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5/14/2014  10:01 PM
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WP76 wrote:I just can't get that upset about this. $5M/year for five years for a guy that's never coached an NBA game just seems out of line to me--regardless of his "pedigree." The Warriors can foot the bill for Kerr's on-the-job training and the Knicks can move on to somebody who really wants to be in NY.
Also, MJax had a lot of success there. The expectation is for them to take the next step in the western conference. That will be tough to do while figuring things out. Also, expect West to be a regular at practice now.

I'd rather have Mark Jackson in spite of his lack of triangle knowledge. He loves NY, played here, and you know he'd jump at the opportunity. Bring on M. Jackson as HC with Derek Fisher as the "triangle consultant" and we're on our way.

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5/14/2014  10:02 PM
I wonder if Kerr found out he was being brought here to coach the Westchester Knicks.
Oh good lord... https://www.youtube.com/shorts/XkmGrX7O0lQ
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5/14/2014  10:09 PM
wow, Lupica's article is painfully honest http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/lupica-kerr-picking-warriors-knicks-shows-high-hoops-iq-article-1.1792734

Steve Kerr makes the smart play rejecting Phil Jackson and Knicks for Warriors coaching job
By taking an offer to coach the Warriors, Kerr gets a team with better players and a franchise with a better infrastructure than he would have had with the Knicks.

No one knows if Steve Kerr can coach, even though he leveraged himself, thanks to Phil Jackson and the Knicks, into being the hottest candidate who’s never coached a day in his life, at least if you don’t count him sitting next to Marv Albert on television.
But what we have always known about Kerr, all the way back to his playing days, this guy who played for Jackson and Gregg Popovich, is that he is one of the smartest guys in the room. He shows you that now by turning down the Knicks for the Warriors.
Maybe now Jackson will go after the best coach out there who does have actual experience, like 11 championships, that kind of experience, to coach the Knicks.
That means Phil himself.

All along, as you kept being told that Kerr was this close to signing with the Knicks, that an announcement was coming any day, you kept wondering why in the world he would even consider the Knicks if the Warriors did want him, with all the talent they have in the room.

You looked at their top players, guys like Steph Curry and Klay Thompson and David Lee and Andre Iguodala and Draymond Green and Andrew Bogut. You looked at the seven-game series they gave the Clippers, even without Bogut in the middle.

Then you put them up against what the Knicks have now, and what they’re going to have next season, and really did think Kerr would need to have his head examined if he chose the Knicks.

It would have meant he had an awful lot of blind faith that Jackson will be the first guy running the Knicks to make their business plan work:

That’s the business plan where they’re going to sign all the best free agents the next time around. Just not right now.
But Kerr does not come to the Garden to work for Phil and the Knicks. He stays on the West Coast and goes with the Warriors. When he got into the game for Jackson in Chicago, he so often made the right play, even when he wasn’t making a big shot. He makes the right play for himself here.

I’ve said this all along: If Kerr really was doing his due diligence on the Knicks, and their entire operation, from the owner to the guys still working under Jackson in the front office to scouting, even to public relations and the medical staff, he would have to have seen an infrastructure that is really no infrastructure at all.

Had he gone ahead and taken the job anyway, because of his faith in Jackson – and we’ll find out how Phil is going to thrive and survive, as Clyde would say, with the permanent government – then he simply would have been ignoring all he found out about the reality of James Dolan’s Garden, at least on the basketball side.

Maybe this was all about money, and the Warriors offered another year, a fifth year, that the Knicks were not prepared to offer. Or maybe Kerr played this perfectly and ended up getting the years and the money he wanted from the Warriors. Whatever brought him to this moment, he ended up taking a better offer in all ways.

He gets better players, and he gets a better chance to last, unless he thinks it’s some kind of crazy accident that even Hall of Fame coaches like Lenny Wilkens and Larry Brown had no chance at the Garden.

“Why does everybody act as if I’m crazy to be thinking about taking this job?” Kerr said to a friend during the process.

Whatever the spin on this, Kerr had to be concerned about the reality of working a big basketball job at the Garden. Jackson clearly thinks he can be the first executive there to negotiate the dark corners and long knives that are out for anybody threatening the permanent government that exists under Dolan, and maybe he can, because of his immense coaching portfolio. But he will be the first.

Donnie Walsh wasn’t a perfect executive, and made his mistakes, because everybody does. But he made the Knicks legit again after the toxic mess created by Isiah Thomas. Walsh got himself good and run off the way great coaches not only got run off, but also got humiliated on their way out the door. Kerr wants to know why people started to look at him like he was crazy? Those are just a couple of reasons.

But he was Jackson’s guy, and every few days you would read about how close Jackson was, you bet, to closing his first deal on hiring a coach after firing his first coach, in Woodson. But the longer the thing dragged out, the more you started to wonder if he was going to close it at all.

“Any decision he makes will be a thoughtful decision,” Ker’s agent, Mike Tannenbaum, the former Jets general manager, said to Colin Cowherd the other day on ESPN Radio.

The thoughtful decision was to take Golden State’s money and their players and the Golden State job over anything the Knicks had to offer. And by the way? This is the biggest offer ever given to any coach or manager in sports without five minutes of experience. So we will start to find out next season how much the Warriors won here and how much the Knicks lost.

Again: We don’t know how good a coach Steve Kerr is going to be in the NBA. What we do know for sure now is that he’s even smarter than we knew.

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5/14/2014  10:11 PM
Here's my article...

"Steve Kerr was not up to the task."

Oh good lord... https://www.youtube.com/shorts/XkmGrX7O0lQ
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5/14/2014  10:15 PM
daily news coverage of the knicks these days is like fox news coverage of obama
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5/14/2014  10:20 PM
David Aldridge is on NBAtc right now. Says the main reason for Kerr taking the Warriors job is geography. Also noted that Kerr, when he was GM at Pho almost pulled off a trade on draft night for Steph Curry.

PJax was the only intriguing element in NY, but everything else favors Oakland for Kerr...

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5/14/2014  10:20 PM
PresIke wrote:daily news coverage of the knicks these days is like fox news coverage of obama

^^^^^
This

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5/14/2014  10:25 PM
ToddTT wrote:I wonder if Kerr found out he was being brought here to coach the Westchester Knicks.

What's the difference?

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5/14/2014  10:27 PM
Vmart wrote:
ToddTT wrote:I wonder if Kerr found out he was being brought here to coach the Westchester Knicks.

What's the difference?

Oh good lord... https://www.youtube.com/shorts/XkmGrX7O0lQ
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5/14/2014  10:28 PM
Uptown wrote:
PresIke wrote:daily news coverage of the knicks these days is like fox news coverage of obama

^^^^^
This

Yes

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5/14/2014  10:28 PM
once this thing dragged past that first week end - I knew it wasn't going to end well.

Agent leaked everything to the press- bravo.

Kerr should send his first check+ to PJ as thank you. Where was Kerr on anyone's radar until Phil feted him.

Maybe Pat Ewing wants to come back. He, unfortunately, knows a lot about the triangle too

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5/14/2014  10:29 PM
give me someone who wants to be here, not just for the money, not just to learn from PJ.
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5/14/2014  10:52 PM
ON TO THE NEXT ONE!!! Really this is only a big deal to the Knicks hating Media and fans that love to see the Knicks have problems. In terms of PJax and the Knicks plans this is only a minor bump in the road. There are a TON of coaches out there who would love to coach this team. PJax wanted a young protege who had a similar philosophy but even he has said that he had other men in mind who he felt had the right stuff.

In the end we won't even give this a second thought when it's all said and done. Kerr clearly didn't want the challenge. Whoever we end up with WILL want to be here and that's all that matters in the end. We still have Phil and the plan is still in place. We'll plug in another talented man to get this done. Probably a blessing in disguise. Wouldn't want Kerr here with his mind elsewhere.

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5/14/2014  10:59 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/14/2014  11:01 PM
nixluva wrote:ON TO THE NEXT ONE!!! Really this is only a big deal to the Knicks hating Media and fans that love to see the Knicks have problems. In terms of PJax and the Knicks plans this is only a minor bump in the road. There are a TON of coaches out there who would love to coach this team. PJax wanted a young protege who had a similar philosophy but even he has said that he had other men in mind who he felt had the right stuff.

In the end we won't even give this a second thought when it's all said and done. Kerr clearly didn't want the challenge. Whoever we end up with WILL want to be here and that's all that matters in the end. We still have Phil and the plan is still in place. We'll plug in another talented man to get this done. Probably a blessing in disguise. Wouldn't want Kerr here with his mind elsewhere.


I agree with you. This isn't a big deal. Sometimes getting what you want is a bad thing. Imagine if MDA didn't take the NYK offer that would have left the Knicks with Thibs or Jackson which might have worked out better.

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5/14/2014  11:19 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/14/2014  11:20 PM
nixluva wrote:ON TO THE NEXT ONE!!! Really this is only a big deal to the Knicks hating Media and fans that love to see the Knicks have problems. In terms of PJax and the Knicks plans this is only a minor bump in the road. There are a TON of coaches out there who would love to coach this team. PJax wanted a young protege who had a similar philosophy but even he has said that he had other men in mind who he felt had the right stuff.

In the end we won't even give this a second thought when it's all said and done. Kerr clearly didn't want the challenge. Whoever we end up with WILL want to be here and that's all that matters in the end. We still have Phil and the plan is still in place. We'll plug in another talented man to get this done. Probably a blessing in disguise. Wouldn't want Kerr here with his mind elsewhere.

Isn't this the same **** we said when we lost out on LeBron? lol. I bet its the same pep-talk Jennifer Aniston (and her fine self) told herself right after losing Brad Pitt. We all know how that turned out...

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5/14/2014  11:20 PM
NardDogNation wrote:
nixluva wrote:ON TO THE NEXT ONE!!! Really this is only a big deal to the Knicks hating Media and fans that love to see the Knicks have problems. In terms of PJax and the Knicks plans this is only a minor bump in the road. There are a TON of coaches out there who would love to coach this team. PJax wanted a young protege who had a similar philosophy but even he has said that he had other men in mind who he felt had the right stuff.

In the end we won't even give this a second thought when it's all said and done. Kerr clearly didn't want the challenge. Whoever we end up with WILL want to be here and that's all that matters in the end. We still have Phil and the plan is still in place. We'll plug in another talented man to get this done. Probably a blessing in disguise. Wouldn't want Kerr here with his mind elsewhere.

Isn't this the same **** we said when we lost out on LeBron? lol. I bet its the same pep-talk women

did you just compare missing out on LeBron with missing out on Kerr? COME ON

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5/14/2014  11:24 PM
martin wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
nixluva wrote:ON TO THE NEXT ONE!!! Really this is only a big deal to the Knicks hating Media and fans that love to see the Knicks have problems. In terms of PJax and the Knicks plans this is only a minor bump in the road. There are a TON of coaches out there who would love to coach this team. PJax wanted a young protege who had a similar philosophy but even he has said that he had other men in mind who he felt had the right stuff.

In the end we won't even give this a second thought when it's all said and done. Kerr clearly didn't want the challenge. Whoever we end up with WILL want to be here and that's all that matters in the end. We still have Phil and the plan is still in place. We'll plug in another talented man to get this done. Probably a blessing in disguise. Wouldn't want Kerr here with his mind elsewhere.

Isn't this the same **** we said when we lost out on LeBron? lol. I bet its the same pep-talk women

did you just compare missing out on LeBron with missing out on Kerr? COME ON

I was really high on Kerr. Not LeBron to the Knicks high...but pretty high.

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5/14/2014  11:35 PM
Rookie wrote:wow, Lupica's article is painfully honest http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/lupica-kerr-picking-warriors-knicks-shows-high-hoops-iq-article-1.1792734

Steve Kerr makes the smart play rejecting Phil Jackson and Knicks for Warriors coaching job
By taking an offer to coach the Warriors, Kerr gets a team with better players and a franchise with a better infrastructure than he would have had with the Knicks.

No one knows if Steve Kerr can coach, even though he leveraged himself, thanks to Phil Jackson and the Knicks, into being the hottest candidate who’s never coached a day in his life, at least if you don’t count him sitting next to Marv Albert on television.
But what we have always known about Kerr, all the way back to his playing days, this guy who played for Jackson and Gregg Popovich, is that he is one of the smartest guys in the room. He shows you that now by turning down the Knicks for the Warriors.
Maybe now Jackson will go after the best coach out there who does have actual experience, like 11 championships, that kind of experience, to coach the Knicks.
That means Phil himself.

All along, as you kept being told that Kerr was this close to signing with the Knicks, that an announcement was coming any day, you kept wondering why in the world he would even consider the Knicks if the Warriors did want him, with all the talent they have in the room.

You looked at their top players, guys like Steph Curry and Klay Thompson and David Lee and Andre Iguodala and Draymond Green and Andrew Bogut. You looked at the seven-game series they gave the Clippers, even without Bogut in the middle.

Then you put them up against what the Knicks have now, and what they’re going to have next season, and really did think Kerr would need to have his head examined if he chose the Knicks.

It would have meant he had an awful lot of blind faith that Jackson will be the first guy running the Knicks to make their business plan work:

That’s the business plan where they’re going to sign all the best free agents the next time around. Just not right now.
But Kerr does not come to the Garden to work for Phil and the Knicks. He stays on the West Coast and goes with the Warriors. When he got into the game for Jackson in Chicago, he so often made the right play, even when he wasn’t making a big shot. He makes the right play for himself here.

I’ve said this all along: If Kerr really was doing his due diligence on the Knicks, and their entire operation, from the owner to the guys still working under Jackson in the front office to scouting, even to public relations and the medical staff, he would have to have seen an infrastructure that is really no infrastructure at all.

Had he gone ahead and taken the job anyway, because of his faith in Jackson – and we’ll find out how Phil is going to thrive and survive, as Clyde would say, with the permanent government – then he simply would have been ignoring all he found out about the reality of James Dolan’s Garden, at least on the basketball side.

Maybe this was all about money, and the Warriors offered another year, a fifth year, that the Knicks were not prepared to offer. Or maybe Kerr played this perfectly and ended up getting the years and the money he wanted from the Warriors. Whatever brought him to this moment, he ended up taking a better offer in all ways.

He gets better players, and he gets a better chance to last, unless he thinks it’s some kind of crazy accident that even Hall of Fame coaches like Lenny Wilkens and Larry Brown had no chance at the Garden.

“Why does everybody act as if I’m crazy to be thinking about taking this job?” Kerr said to a friend during the process.

Whatever the spin on this, Kerr had to be concerned about the reality of working a big basketball job at the Garden. Jackson clearly thinks he can be the first executive there to negotiate the dark corners and long knives that are out for anybody threatening the permanent government that exists under Dolan, and maybe he can, because of his immense coaching portfolio. But he will be the first.

Donnie Walsh wasn’t a perfect executive, and made his mistakes, because everybody does. But he made the Knicks legit again after the toxic mess created by Isiah Thomas. Walsh got himself good and run off the way great coaches not only got run off, but also got humiliated on their way out the door. Kerr wants to know why people started to look at him like he was crazy? Those are just a couple of reasons.

But he was Jackson’s guy, and every few days you would read about how close Jackson was, you bet, to closing his first deal on hiring a coach after firing his first coach, in Woodson. But the longer the thing dragged out, the more you started to wonder if he was going to close it at all.

“Any decision he makes will be a thoughtful decision,” Ker’s agent, Mike Tannenbaum, the former Jets general manager, said to Colin Cowherd the other day on ESPN Radio.

The thoughtful decision was to take Golden State’s money and their players and the Golden State job over anything the Knicks had to offer. And by the way? This is the biggest offer ever given to any coach or manager in sports without five minutes of experience. So we will start to find out next season how much the Warriors won here and how much the Knicks lost.

Again: We don’t know how good a coach Steve Kerr is going to be in the NBA. What we do know for sure now is that he’s even smarter than we knew.

Seen as honest or not, I have literally stopped listening to Lupica in regards to the Knicks and I have been a fan of his for 20 years. Since the whole Mike Woodson fiasco this season Lupica's coverage of the Knicks has been very one sided, very negative, and extremely chippy. He has constantly chirped about Woodson didn't deserve to be fired to the point you would think he was Woodson's wife. He constantly had a double standard of Mike Woodson so ached this team to a 54 win season it's the players fault, while never saying the players played on a 50 win team and applying the same logic.

it really got to the point I had stop listening to his show when he talked Knicks. He would call out players for excuses but refused to do the same to Woodson even though he also made constant excuses.

To me Woodson last year sounded like he was coaching for his job not coaching the team. Granted the team play wasn't good either. But one thing that gets lost is while Woodson may have had his best coaching year ever last year that team had no less than 4 guys- Melo, Chandler, Smith, Shumpert that had career years. That team somehow won hitting an inordinate amount of 3's, not rebounding well and had no inside game to even pretend to use to help set up the 3. Also all this talk about this switching defense is a bitch. One point Lupica always brought up was how the defense won 54 games last year. Mr. Lupica, let me let you in on a little secret, the league adjusted to the switch. It used the switch against the Knicks to set up mismatches because they knew what was going to happen. They adjusted to Mike Woodson who couldn't even make a single adjustment to counter them.

He told the world what his defense was going to do every time down the court. He made as many excuses as the players, the main one being injuries. The Spurs were just as hurt as us and look what Pop did over there. He adjusted to hide his weaknesses.

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5/14/2014  11:39 PM
Lupica is a tough listen. Not just in regards to the Knicks but the yankees and how he sucks up to EVERY guess. Definitely the worse in the business. The rest of the guys on the station can't stand him either. I give him another 4-6months til his show is cancelled.
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5/15/2014  3:06 AM    LAST EDITED: 5/15/2014  5:07 AM
Sorry but 5 years and $25mil for a coach with zero experience is ridiculous and a terrible prescident. Marc Jackson got 3 years $6mil- please someone explain to me what the difference is. Ridiculous. Warriors got played and bought into the hype. Kerr tried to play us with all the leaked 'he favors the Knicks'- now suddenly it was all about geography all along (news flash- the geography hasn't changed!), so he was clearly using us to get the warriors to increase their offer.

PJ did the right thing- my only issue is it seems like he doesn't have much of a back up plan. This is a stupid move for the warriors, but somehow were going to be the ones who get blasted- ridiculous.

Kerr to the Warriors!!

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