misterearl wrote:Nalod wrote:misterearl wrote:Nalod - the distain I have is for the ridiculous amount of fanfare for Kerr. Granted, the influence of Uncle Phil, and their relationship, and the power of the New York media machine - when was there EVER so much hype (and salary demand) over a first-time head coach?The precedent is staggering.
In the immortal words of Dennis Green, "If you want to crown his ass, then crown him..." Home has not won over a single professional basketball player as an assistant or a head man, at any level. Not a high school, college or DLeague. Kerr needs to show me something other than some rings from the Michael Jordan Chicago Bulls.
Pardon me if I am not jumping on his bandwagon before he rolls out he ball racks.
Pardon granted!!!! Thanks for the response. I can see your point. BTW, has anyone ever paid a GM 12mil before? Epic freaking starphuch the PhilJax to NY thing was! Its NY media and the knicks!
My take is Phil had great on court productive relatoinships with Krause and Kupchek. As PHils bling grew in Chicago it stands to reason in his 9 years there his juice card got filled and had more say in roster contruction. In Lakerland, it also is logical he had it negotiated in as well!
Who phil wants to be his on floor general is very important. Pay a man 12 mil a year and give him the tools to succeed. If paying above market rate is what it takes, I suppose its just the cost of doing business. Freaking Nets are on the hook for 6million to Lawrence Frank to be Kidds head assistant! Put that on Kidds salary package and it adds up.
ONe has little to do with the other but its a billion dollar corp. and you want to attract talent in what has been a historically dysfuncitonal organization and a blood thirsty media complex I'd say if you want a guy that has a market (in demand) I think a premium is logical. Thats my justification and the ease by which to spend ohters money on the internet!
Sometimes you pay up for the right circumstances. Knicks piss money on far worse things than paying up for a quality person to be its rookie head coach. Think of the failed moves to clear cap space for Lebron, and in his place we burned it on Amare? Look how we over paid for Amare? 20-40million is my guess! Not to count the cost of Larry Hughes, Mcgrady, or who ever!
We over paid for Melo, but there are many who feel it was justified and a minority who things it was silly.
I suppose You now have your "Thing" going forward if Kerr and the knicks don't succeed! The rest of us have to defend him and preach "patience"!!!!
Nalod, The Answer Man appreciates your perspective. The thing going forward is not about being "right" or "wrong". The bottom line is that no matter who Uncle Phil hires, the cause is to play cohesive basketball and win games that matter in May. If our 30 million dollar head coach can squeeze 45 wins out of a roster of retreads and Summer League rookies next season, he deserves a parade.
How many games should the Steve Kerr Knicks be expected to win by year three (of his five)?
For an "AnswerMan", thats a hell of a question!
I have no idea what the roster will look like or how we go about it do its a matter of expecations. Some teams like the clippers go out get the players then can Del Negro and put in a good coach. SOme are starting from teh top down and put better decision makers in place and then have them constuct is. I know the abstract young genious GM is always a good idea as well as that fresh face assistant coach to grow into the job like Boston did with Brad Stevens. They gave him 6 years and 22 mil. Why? First few years will be learning and roster building. Money? Stevens has coaching experience and did very well in college, but he was not a college hot shot, get drafted, and be part of two winning cutures. Don't get me wrong, he might be a star in the making and I credit Boston with forward thinking. 6 years!!!! Does Kerr deserve more money then Stevens? I guess we can argue it both ways. Maybe Stevens could have gotten more money but he got the years and the time to build it and grow. Stevens also did not have a high exposure TV career.
Kerr has many prerequisite qualities and a mentor that has a vested stake in his success. The money, well thats for fans to make their own call on. To bring in a young fresh GM and coach into this media cesspool and pressure cooker has really never been done. I also think that Dolan by hiring McKesson has found a credible voice and perhaps that voice told him to Hire someone he has to respect instead of bully around. When he had Checketts and Riley around they knew what they were doing.
Phil Jax came at a very expensive price but thats not our problem, and neither is Kerrs salary. Larry Browns grab never stopped knicks from spending.
To answer your question I really can't say as I just don't know what we look like. If in year three we are sub .500 is it because the team can't play right?, injuries? or the coach is not a good fit?
This is a big job, in the big market and will command a lot of attention. Knicks coach will be a national figure. Do this right, take us to chip and the'll name a bridge after him!
Kerr will be under more pressure because of the money.
