knicks1248 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

nyk4ever wrote: i'm still glad we signed him

are you really?

I actually want to win. I don't care about a guys back story when it costs 100 million and sinks the ship.

I think your being a little ungreatfull. When someone one comes through for you when your down and out, you don't kick them to the curb when your back on top. We had 10 yrs of hard to watch basketball. Signing amare was a no brainer

You seem like you would hve been content with gallo, lee and chandler winning an avg of 40 games a season. Yeah we would have had cap space, but honestly since amare has gotten here, what big name FA did we miss out on because of cap space.

that might not have been a bad idea... 40 wins with those guys and all our picks and cap space, we would have been prime to make a move for a player that truly could have elevated this franchise...

NardDogNation wrote:

Dagger wrote:I'll never understand why this guy gets more love than melo. Never. Goes to show how far "image" can get you, especially with impressionable fans.

Its because Amare is far more charismatic. When it comes to basketball, Melo was always the superior player.

hmmmmmmmmmmm......

mreinman wrote:

nyk4ever wrote: i'm still glad we signed him

are you really?

I actually want to win. I don't care about a guys back story when it costs 100 million and sinks the ship.

hindsight is 20/20. comments like this are silly - do you think amar'e injured his knees on purpose? i'm sure you were saying this when he was averaging 25/8 in the first year of that contract. relax.

NardDogNation wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:

mreinman wrote:

nyk4ever wrote: i'm still glad we signed him

are you really?

I actually want to win. I don't care about a guys back story when it costs 100 million and sinks the ship.

hindsight is 20/20. comments like this are silly - do you think amar'e injured his knees on purpose? i'm sure you were saying this when he was averaging 25/8 in the first year of that contract. relax.

The intent behind his injuries are irrelevant (if that even makes sense). The fact is that he's been injury prone his entire career, which was good enough indication that this would be the case later on in his career, especially with him being older. Why do you think that Phoenix let him walk for nothing? Were they in the business of trying to suck?

yes, that was obviously their intent

tkf wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

nyk4ever wrote: i'm still glad we signed him

are you really?

I actually want to win. I don't care about a guys back story when it costs 100 million and sinks the ship.

I think your being a little ungreatfull. When someone one comes through for you when your down and out, you don't kick them to the curb when your back on top. We had 10 yrs of hard to watch basketball. Signing amare was a no brainer

You seem like you would hve been content with gallo, lee and chandler winning an avg of 40 games a season. Yeah we would have had cap space, but honestly since amare has gotten here, what big name FA did we miss out on because of cap space.

that might not have been a bad idea... 40 wins with those guys and all our picks and cap space, we would have been prime to make a move for a player that truly could have elevated this franchise...

Like who, the heat started the 3 super star thing, and it seem like the way to go. People keep bring up indi like they have won a championship. Bird has criticized his teams effort almost daily, there not really a championship team IMO, and bird doesnt think so either.

The only move that i will always have a issues with was walsh not calling the jazz about Dwill, him and Amare would have be golden, and we would have atleast kept wilson and mosgov. I think Gallo, felton and a 1st and 2nd pick would have gotten the deal done.

nyk4ever wrote:

mreinman wrote:

nyk4ever wrote: i'm still glad we signed him

are you really?

I actually want to win. I don't care about a guys back story when it costs 100 million and sinks the ship.

hindsight is 20/20. comments like this are silly - do you think amar'e injured his knees on purpose? i'm sure you were saying this when he was averaging 25/8 in the first year of that contract. relax.

How many surgeries did he have before he got here? And, why do think that he could not be insured?

I did hate the move when it happened but prayed like everyone else that he would last.

knicks1248 wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

dk7th wrote:if dragic or even ridnour were available that would have been the better acquisition than felton. i once read somewhere that once amare was signed that ridnour was who he preferred. wish i could find that source!

I heard Amare publicly make those comments. I liked the Felton signing at the time (even though I was rooting for Mike Conley or Ramon Sessions) but longer term, anyone would've been better than Felton.

we saw the chemistry Felton had with amare on his first tour of duty, no reason to think he wasn't going to come in motivated and in shape, and he definitely started out that way.

I was referring to when we first signed him in 2010....

knicks1248 wrote:

tkf wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

nyk4ever wrote: i'm still glad we signed him

are you really?

I actually want to win. I don't care about a guys back story when it costs 100 million and sinks the ship.

I think your being a little ungreatfull. When someone one comes through for you when your down and out, you don't kick them to the curb when your back on top. We had 10 yrs of hard to watch basketball. Signing amare was a no brainer

You seem like you would hve been content with gallo, lee and chandler winning an avg of 40 games a season. Yeah we would have had cap space, but honestly since amare has gotten here, what big name FA did we miss out on because of cap space.

that might not have been a bad idea... 40 wins with those guys and all our picks and cap space, we would have been prime to make a move for a player that truly could have elevated this franchise...

Like who, the heat started the 3 super star thing, and it seem like the way to go. People keep bring up indi like they have won a championship. Bird has criticized his teams effort almost daily, there not really a championship team IMO, and bird doesnt think so either.

The only move that i will always have a issues with was walsh not calling the jazz about Dwill, him and Amare would have be golden, and we would have atleast kept wilson and mosgov. I think Gallo, felton and a 1st and 2nd pick would have gotten the deal done.

You'd also have to consider their health, respectively. Both guys would've spent as much time on the court as they would off of it, which would've put us in an even worse predicament. As for Walsh, there were a slew of moves before the 2010 offseason that were tremendously bad e.g. the McGrady deal; the Zach Randolph deal; not trading JJ and Nate Robinson for cap space (which also cost us Stephen Curry in 2009); drafting Jordan Hill instead of trading down; drafting Gallo instead of trading down and picking him anyway; trading David Lee for not a goddamn thing. The list is extremely long with Walsh, he was terrible for us.

mreinman wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

mreinman wrote:

azamatbagatov wrote:

mreinman wrote:still should have amnestied the dude or better yet, never have signed him.

woulda have been nice reading a story like this about Amare who never quits on the Timberwolves.

Probably the worst move the knicks have ever made.

Probably not....

http://www.insidehoops.com/curry-trade-knicks-100405.shtml

yeah the curry one - ugh

But I am sure we would not have been smart enough to draft Noah.

Noah was once projected to go no.1 just a few weeks before the draft. Considering our penchant for starphucking, I think we definitely would've picked him.

Man did I love him in college and he is probably my favorite player in the NBA. That dude has work ethic and brains.

Yeah, I ****ing love Joakim Noah. He's the only celebrity I know of that I actually want to hang out with. It's rare to find talent, work ethic and character in one person.

tkf wrote:

mreinman wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

nyk4ever wrote: i'm still glad we signed him

are you really?

I actually want to win. I don't care about a guys back story when it costs 100 million and sinks the ship.

I think your being a little ungreatfull. When someone one comes through for you when your down and out, you don't kick them to the curb when your back on top. We had 10 yrs of hard to watch basketball. Signing amare was a no brainer

You seem like you would hve been content with gallo, lee and chandler winning an avg of 40 games a season. Yeah we would have had cap space, but honestly since amare has gotten here, what big name FA did we miss out on because of cap space.

David Lee
DRAGIC
Chris Paul
Dwight Howard
Paul Milsap

Pick any, but that is not even the point. We don't need tier 1's. We need to build an efficient team not blow the bank on Amare when the only offer he got was 3 years to remain in PHX. His crash was not that hard to predict.

Amare came through for us? How by giving us a half of a good season of a 5 year cap killer?

Fans follow their hearts way too much. Do you think that the knicks brass thinks that they made a huge mistake?

once lebron was off the market, I was screaming that we should build a team, similar to the way the pacers have approached things.. get as many good players who can play well together, and build a team with depth and talent... People hated me for it as they wanted a STAR damnit!!!! This is one of the many differences I had with many posters on the other site...

Lebron went to "souf beach". at that point our goal should have been to build a complete team... not starphuch..

I like what the pacers are doing but I like what the rockets are doing better. Only detroit has won without a star but their defense was so incredible and they played efficiently. Huge Kudos to Larry Brown for that.

Today you don't need a star to win, you need a few of them.

NardDogNation wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

mreinman wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

nyk4ever wrote: i'm still glad we signed him

are you really?

I actually want to win. I don't care about a guys back story when it costs 100 million and sinks the ship.

I think your being a little ungreatfull. When someone one comes through for you when your down and out, you don't kick them to the curb when your back on top. We had 10 yrs of hard to watch basketball. Signing amare was a no brainer

You seem like you would hve been content with gallo, lee and chandler winning an avg of 40 games a season. Yeah we would have had cap space, but honestly since amare has gotten here, what big name FA did we miss out on because of cap space.

David Lee
DRAGIC
Chris Paul
Dwight Howard
Paul Milsap

Pick any, but that is not even the point. We don't need tier 1's. We need to build an efficient team not blow the bank on Amare when the only offer he got was 3 years to remain in PHX. His crash was not that hard to predict.

Amare came through for us? How by giving us a half of a good season of a 5 year cap killer?

Fans follow their hearts way too much. Do you think that the knicks brass thinks that they made a huge mistake?

Dude that is the ultimate bull sht (his crash was easy to predict) how in the world can you say that..You think donnie was dumb enogh to sign a player who had 6 months left in his tank for a 100 mill.

Howard never ever wanted to play in ny

Dragic is a good player, but the suns are not elite, and no ones flocking over there to play with him

Milsap, you mean the guy on the stuggling hawks

chris paul wasn't coming over here to play with gallo and chandler, and after getting melo we had nothing to offer in a trade..

Ultimate BS? Why was he not insured? Why did teams not tender offers?

I would take Dragic over any of our players. Dude is great! Who says a team has to be elite? They are playing solid bball at 43-29 I would give my left nut for that record and him as our PG.

I find it funny how fans globally measure a teams success by one player. Its a "team".

Hmm, so the list of players you've said you like is : Dragic, Kevin Love, Jeff Hornacek... I'm starting to see a pattern...

You forgot the other 3 players on the list (CP3, Howard, Millsap) who are all Black.

They are?

I like those 3 because they are super efficient and Hornacek was so damn good and got zero props. He also made 25 million for his entire career. He was/is proof that most GM's back then did not have a clue as to what constitutes value.

And by the way I am a bigot to any inefficient / overrated player.