Knixkik wrote:I supported it because it was a buy-low deal. We got rid of a contract that extended beyond 2015 in Novak, which will come in handy and we traded a first round pick we already didn't control. Obviously that pick could have been put to better use though.

MaTT4281 wrote:Didn't particularly care. Never liked Bargs as a player, but we gave trash and picks. Roll of the dice, and just like my casino trips, didn't work out.

Still one more year on his contract, and there were a few points this season that left me...almost hopeful. If nothing else, we got a fun moment with KG out of it.

He's been comic relief at best..That layup to end his season was absolutely classic, i watched that clip a 100 times and still can't figue our wtf he was tring to do. I'm not even going to mention the Bucks games. He has been hilarious and extremely a dissappointment

Bonn1997 wrote:

Knixkik wrote:I supported it because it was a buy-low deal. We got rid of a contract that extended beyond 2015 in Novak, which will come in handy and we traded a first round pick we already didn't control. Obviously that pick could have been put to better use though.

Please. We could have used the 3 draft picks to dump Novak for an expiring contract in the improbable scenario that his 3.75 mil salary would have made a difference for signing free agents.

+1! The Milwaukee Bucks were offering Kyle Korver a $6 million/yr contract that the Hawks matched. One would think that they would have interest in a native with a similar skillset. Who knows, we may not have had to even include the picks for the trade to work.

Nalod wrote:Its a 2016 pick. I would hope its a low pick!

I see Bargs as able in the Triangle. If so his value to the team might make this a good deal.

I reserve the right to stay open minded.

Few 7footers has his skill set.

...but the Raptors were rumored to be amnestying him if a deal could not be made. His talent, to me, is irrelevant and was when the deal was made. The question is, why would you pay for something that you could get for free.

On a side, you have to consider the opportunity cost involved in the trading of those picks. They could've been used to trade for someone with actual value like Kyle Lowry, who was available earlier in the year. I do agree with you that Bargnani could be a serviceable backup in the triangle though.

mreinman wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

y2zipper wrote:It was and still is about getting out from this roster in 2015. Considering that nobody would take Felton's contract, which is about the same as Novak's for a much better player, I don't see how Novak could have been dumped outside of this trade.

Personally, I'd consider moving the 2018 pick (protected, of course) if I could get rid of Felton and Smith along with it without taking on future salary.

I mentioned this in a separate post but the Bucks would likely have taken Novak's contract for an expirer. They were grossly overpaying Kyle Korver at $6 million/yr,which leads me to believe that they'd have interest in Steve Novak, a Marquette grad, who has a similar skillset. The Bargnani deal we made seemed to involve no leg work whatsoever. It gives me the impression that we took the very first offer that the Raptors gave us. Remember that the Raptors were talking about amnestying Bargnani during the offseason and we gave up picks for this "talent".

As for Felton and Smith, I honestly think that Billy King would be stupid enough to trade for both (and Kenyon Martin) in a package deal. I think the odds are increased by the fact that Jason Kidd played with these guys and had success with them. All I'd need is Marcus Thorton's expiring deal.

Korver is playing retarded ball. 6 million is not grossly overpaying.

Take a look at his stats.

I dream to have him on my team!

He is the reason that we will not make the playoffs and hotlanta will

Korver hits a few efficient three's every game...that's about the extent of his ability. I admit, he looks good but that is primarily because they have an excellent coach in Mike Budenholzer who understands his talent and is very good with X's and O's. The same could not be said about Mike Woodson and to a much lesser extent Dwayne Casey. If you were to put Novak on the Hawks, I think he'd provide exactly what Korver does, as efficiently as Korver does.

NardDogNation wrote:

mreinman wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

y2zipper wrote:It was and still is about getting out from this roster in 2015. Considering that nobody would take Felton's contract, which is about the same as Novak's for a much better player, I don't see how Novak could have been dumped outside of this trade.

Personally, I'd consider moving the 2018 pick (protected, of course) if I could get rid of Felton and Smith along with it without taking on future salary.

I mentioned this in a separate post but the Bucks would likely have taken Novak's contract for an expirer. They were grossly overpaying Kyle Korver at $6 million/yr,which leads me to believe that they'd have interest in Steve Novak, a Marquette grad, who has a similar skillset. The Bargnani deal we made seemed to involve no leg work whatsoever. It gives me the impression that we took the very first offer that the Raptors gave us. Remember that the Raptors were talking about amnestying Bargnani during the offseason and we gave up picks for this "talent".

As for Felton and Smith, I honestly think that Billy King would be stupid enough to trade for both (and Kenyon Martin) in a package deal. I think the odds are increased by the fact that Jason Kidd played with these guys and had success with them. All I'd need is Marcus Thorton's expiring deal.

Korver is playing retarded ball. 6 million is not grossly overpaying.

Take a look at his stats.

I dream to have him on my team!

He is the reason that we will not make the playoffs and hotlanta will

Korver hits a few efficient three's every game...that's about the extent of his ability. I admit, he looks good but that is primarily because they have an excellent coach in Mike Budenholzer who understands his talent and is very good with X's and O's. The same could not be said about Mike Woodson and to a much lesser extent Dwayne Casey. If you were to put Novak on the Hawks, I think he'd provide exactly what Korver does, as efficiently as Korver does.

His TS is freakin 67!!

And its 59 for his career which is also ridiculous.