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3/15/2014  10:21 AM    LAST EDITED: 3/15/2014  10:34 AM
nixluva wrote:The thing about the Triangle is that it's not a Pro level offense. KIDS were taught this! The thing is that you aren't just out there freelancing which is the lazy way to play. The sets force you into playing TEAM BB. Guys have to read and react and that's the part that gets a lot of players who never really learned how to play real BB. Guys that are successful going into DIY style ball and only once in a while actually thinking the game. We have a team FULL of guys that prefer to go SOLO. Sure we're playing a bit better but this isn't high level Team BB we're playing.

It doesn't matter what specific system you run as long as it's TEAM BB that is designed to create high % shots and everyone executes at a high level. This is why the Knicks had trouble in the playoffs with our street ball offense. Playoff level defense shuts that crap down and then we have no answers.
It's more than just the ability to pass the ball, players have to actually understand how to beat a defense and think a move ahead of what they're doing. It's the difference between tic tac toe and Chess. We've been running a tic tac toe offense.

It's exactly the reason why I'm thinking we should trade Melo. I think he'll fit seemlessly in the triangle but the other guys on this team definitely won't. And since Kevin Love (an ample target in 2015), plays the 4 as well, he and Melo prospects become a he OR Melo scenario. At this point, I would rather go with the younger guy and a slew of (cheap but talented) assets from a Melo trade than Melo and some free agent re-threads looking for a payday.

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3/15/2014  10:23 AM
knickstorrents wrote:I can just imagine Melo trying to follow these diagrams and his eyes glazing over. There's not many players in the NBA with the capacity to really grok this, and I'm very doubtful Melo can follow what's going on.

I do believe we have some pieces that can do the triangle: Amare, Tyson, Pablo, Shumpert, Bargs, and Felton. Everyone else? I'm not so sure.

The triangle isn't about seeing diagrams, it's about feeling plays. In that respect, I think Melo is more than capable of running the system effectively because his entire game has been predicated on his feel of the game.

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3/15/2014  10:26 AM
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nixluva wrote:Short list of coaches that could be on PJax list.
As the new president of the New York Knicks, Phil Jackson has plenty to do to turn around a franchise that hasn't won a title in 41 years. One of his top priorities will be to figure out who's coaching the team next season. Below, we offer five candidates Jackson may turn to:

Steve Kerr: Kerr won three titles while playing for Jackson and the Bulls. He's intimately familiar with Jackson's triangle offense and has expressed an interest in coaching. The one drawback here is that the Knicks would have a first-year president and a first-year coach if Kerr is brought on board.

Byron Scott: The ex-Laker has 13 years of experience on an NBA bench and is well-respected in coaching circles. But you have to wonder if the hiring of Scott will go over well with Knicks management and the team's fan base.

Brian Shaw: Shaw signed a three-year deal to coach the Denver Nuggets last spring. So it's unlikely that he ends up on the Knicks' bench. But Shaw has strong ties to Jackson. He won three titles with Jackson as a Laker and he is well-schooled in the triangle offense.

Phil Jackson: We know Jackson turned down an offer to coach the Knicks and has expressed no desire to return to the bench. But a source told ESPN LA's Ramona Shelburne last week he is open to the possibility of coaching for a short period of time if it was necessary. So the possibility of Jackson starting next season on the bench shouldn't be summarily dismissed.

Mike Woodson: This is the long shot of long shots, given how the season has gone. But until the Knicks officially fire him, the possibility that Woodson ends up coaching the team next season should at least be considered. Woodson and Jackson both have a strong affinity for legendary Knicks coach Red Holzman, so maybe that helps Woodson, who is under contract for next season, state his case to remain on the bench when he gets a chance to talk to Jackson. Also, the Knicks have won five straight and are making a late playoff push.

I actually don't mind the idea of Kerr. I think he would bring some GM experience and with PJax here he would have a coaching mentor available. It would create a solid cohesion between GM and coach in terms of philosophy and tactics. Kerr is used to being the coach on the floor for Phil and now can be that on the bench.

Not that I want him, but I think you have to add Rambis to that list as well..

No Bill Cartwright?

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3/15/2014  10:29 AM
gunsnewing wrote:Phil's had
Longely
Wellington
Cartwright
Horace grant
Rodman

Shaq

Bynum
Gasol

Always through bigs at you

Kerr had Duncan etc

Longley and Wellington sucked though. The Bulls never had a talented 5, even though their 4's were Hall of Fame talents and occasionally filled the role. That's the beauty of the triangle: maximum flexibility based on the type of talent you have.

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3/15/2014  10:29 AM
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nixluva wrote:The thing about the Triangle is that it's not a Pro level offense. KIDS were taught this! The thing is that you aren't just out there freelancing which is the lazy way to play. The sets force you into playing TEAM BB. Guys have to read and react and that's the part that gets a lot of players who never really learned how to play real BB. Guys that are successful going into DIY style ball and only once in a while actually thinking the game. We have a team FULL of guys that prefer to go SOLO. Sure we're playing a bit better but this isn't high level Team BB we're playing.

It doesn't matter what specific system you run as long as it's TEAM BB that is designed to create high % shots and everyone executes at a high level. This is why the Knicks had trouble in the playoffs with our street ball offense. Playoff level defense shuts that crap down and then we have no answers.
It's more than just the ability to pass the ball, players have to actually understand how to beat a defense and think a move ahead of what they're doing. It's the difference between tic tac toe and Chess. We've been running a tic tac toe offense.

It's exactly the reason why I'm thinking we should trade Melo. I think he'll fit seemlessly in the triangle but the other guys on this team definitely won't. And since Kevin Love (and ample target in 2015), plays the 4 as well, he and Melo prospects become a he OR Melo scenario. At this point, I would rather go with the younger guy and a slew of (cheap but talented) assets from the Melo trade than Melo and some free agent re-threads looking for a payday.

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3/15/2014  10:33 AM    LAST EDITED: 3/15/2014  10:36 AM
gunsnewing wrote:He's doing the best he can on the boards but he can not stop a guy like David west on either end of the floor. It's just no physically possible

TheN genius Michael Woodson puts an undersized SF on the floor with 2 6footers in the back court and it's a recipe for a defensive disaster

Phil don't play that

True but can anyone stop David West? He's usually in the conversation as an all-star each season. On the other hand, can David West stop Melo? It's highly unlikely. I hate small ball but I still don't know if Melo at the 4 necessarily constitutes being small. One thing I agree with is that we need to find real 2's and 3's that can rebound the ball. I'm tired of Fat-Man-Felton and JR/Shumpert playing out of position.

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3/15/2014  10:37 AM
Pacers guarded Melo one on one last year. Didn't let him get inside. All jumpers. We played right in there ands with the ISO . They knew we were an inefficient chucking team. Woodson didn't help with his misuse of players that could actual spread the floor
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3/15/2014  11:21 AM
gunsnewing wrote:Pacers guarded Melo one on one last year. Didn't let him get inside. All jumpers. We played right in there ands with the ISO . They knew we were an inefficient chucking team. Woodson didn't help with his misuse of players that could actual spread the floor

Any time Melo drove, the entire Pacer defense collapsed on him. That Hibbert highlight block was indicative of the entire series for Melo. The Pacers, ended up beating us by forcing the ball out of Melo's hands and daring duds like Felton and JR to beat them.

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3/15/2014  11:37 AM
Then how did Melo manage to jack up close to 30 shots a game?
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3/15/2014  1:54 PM
gunsnewing wrote:Then how did Melo manage to jack up close to 30 shots a game?

Lol, because Melo is Melo.

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3/15/2014  5:34 PM
IF Woodson was a legit coach, he would've instructed the team to play off the Pacers attention to Melo. Have guys ready to cut and Melo ready to dish to anyone that was left by a Pacer defender. It's really not Rocket science. You drive and draw defenders and your teammates present themselves for the dump off and finish. We never really developed that part of the game last year and it hurt us in the playoffs.

Melo is the kind of player that will last forever because his skills aren't reliant on athletic ability as much as skill and strength. I think Phil will want to keep him and add a key player to the mix that can bring it all together. The roster isn't as bereft of talent as many like to keep harping on. Our problems are more a function of the poor coaching and underperformance at the guard spots. Replace Felton with a better player and change the offense to the Triangle or at least something with more ball and player movement and we'll have something good going.

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3/16/2014  7:29 PM
Pretty short but solid story on Jim Cleamons

Jim Cleamons a possible coaching candidate for Phil Jackson’s Knicks
Brett Pollakoff Mar 16, 2014, 12:30 PM EDT

Jim Cleamons is currently an assistant coach with the Milwaukee Bucks, but he was a member of Phil Jackson’s coaching staff both in Chicago and Los Angeles, and has nine championship rings to show for it.

The Bucks happened to be in town to face the Knicks on Saturday, just one day after the news of Jackson joining the team’s front office became somewhat official.

Cleamons didn’t have much to say when asked about the possibility of a reunion with Jackson, but it makes too much sense not to be considered.

Cleamons was leery of speaking at length about Jackson since he already has been linked to the Knicks. Cleamons played two seasons for legendary Knicks coach Red Holzman as a point guard from 1977-79 and was Jackson’s teammate.

“Phil is bright. He understands the game. He’s going to put good people around him,’’ Cleamons said. “That’s my feeling. I know nothing else.’’ …

“I know the offense, but I don’t know what his plans are,’’ Cleamons said of Jackson trying to hire a coach who runs the Triangle. “I’m worried about the Milwaukee Bucks. You have to ask Phil that question.’’

Many believe Jackson will want to install a head coach familiar with the Triangle offense that was a staple of all of his championship teams, and Cleamons knows it as well as anyone. Whether in a head coaching role or as an assistant, he may be the active coach most qualified to teach it.

But even if the offense isn’t a consideration, the relationship is. For Jackson to put his stamp on the Knicks, he’ll need to have a coach in place he can trust to give him honest feedback about what’s truly going on with the team’s players — making the choice to add Cleamons in some capacity perhaps too easy to pass up.

I'd say that i'd put Cleamons 1st and Kerr 2nd of the former PJax disciplesI think Phil has on his list. Cleamons has been consistently coaching. I think he'll ask Kerr to be in the front office or an assistant coach, since he has less bench experience.

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3/16/2014  7:37 PM
nixluva wrote:Pretty short but solid story on Jim Cleamons

Jim Cleamons a possible coaching candidate for Phil Jackson’s Knicks
Brett Pollakoff Mar 16, 2014, 12:30 PM EDT

Jim Cleamons is currently an assistant coach with the Milwaukee Bucks, but he was a member of Phil Jackson’s coaching staff both in Chicago and Los Angeles, and has nine championship rings to show for it.

The Bucks happened to be in town to face the Knicks on Saturday, just one day after the news of Jackson joining the team’s front office became somewhat official.

Cleamons didn’t have much to say when asked about the possibility of a reunion with Jackson, but it makes too much sense not to be considered.

Cleamons was leery of speaking at length about Jackson since he already has been linked to the Knicks. Cleamons played two seasons for legendary Knicks coach Red Holzman as a point guard from 1977-79 and was Jackson’s teammate.

“Phil is bright. He understands the game. He’s going to put good people around him,’’ Cleamons said. “That’s my feeling. I know nothing else.’’ …

“I know the offense, but I don’t know what his plans are,’’ Cleamons said of Jackson trying to hire a coach who runs the Triangle. “I’m worried about the Milwaukee Bucks. You have to ask Phil that question.’’

Many believe Jackson will want to install a head coach familiar with the Triangle offense that was a staple of all of his championship teams, and Cleamons knows it as well as anyone. Whether in a head coaching role or as an assistant, he may be the active coach most qualified to teach it.

But even if the offense isn’t a consideration, the relationship is. For Jackson to put his stamp on the Knicks, he’ll need to have a coach in place he can trust to give him honest feedback about what’s truly going on with the team’s players — making the choice to add Cleamons in some capacity perhaps too easy to pass up.

I'd say that i'd put Cleamons 1st and Kerr 2nd of the former PJax disciplesI think Phil has on his list. Cleamons has been consistently coaching. I think he'll ask Kerr to be in the front office or an assistant coach, since he has less bench experience.

In the Grantland article that Nalod shared it sounded like Kerr might be Jackson's first choice for coach. It will be interesting to see what happens.
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3/16/2014  8:24 PM
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nixluva wrote:Pretty short but solid story on Jim Cleamons

Jim Cleamons a possible coaching candidate for Phil Jackson’s Knicks
Brett Pollakoff Mar 16, 2014, 12:30 PM EDT

Jim Cleamons is currently an assistant coach with the Milwaukee Bucks, but he was a member of Phil Jackson’s coaching staff both in Chicago and Los Angeles, and has nine championship rings to show for it.

The Bucks happened to be in town to face the Knicks on Saturday, just one day after the news of Jackson joining the team’s front office became somewhat official.

Cleamons didn’t have much to say when asked about the possibility of a reunion with Jackson, but it makes too much sense not to be considered.

Cleamons was leery of speaking at length about Jackson since he already has been linked to the Knicks. Cleamons played two seasons for legendary Knicks coach Red Holzman as a point guard from 1977-79 and was Jackson’s teammate.

“Phil is bright. He understands the game. He’s going to put good people around him,’’ Cleamons said. “That’s my feeling. I know nothing else.’’ …

“I know the offense, but I don’t know what his plans are,’’ Cleamons said of Jackson trying to hire a coach who runs the Triangle. “I’m worried about the Milwaukee Bucks. You have to ask Phil that question.’’

Many believe Jackson will want to install a head coach familiar with the Triangle offense that was a staple of all of his championship teams, and Cleamons knows it as well as anyone. Whether in a head coaching role or as an assistant, he may be the active coach most qualified to teach it.

But even if the offense isn’t a consideration, the relationship is. For Jackson to put his stamp on the Knicks, he’ll need to have a coach in place he can trust to give him honest feedback about what’s truly going on with the team’s players — making the choice to add Cleamons in some capacity perhaps too easy to pass up.

I'd say that i'd put Cleamons 1st and Kerr 2nd of the former PJax disciplesI think Phil has on his list. Cleamons has been consistently coaching. I think he'll ask Kerr to be in the front office or an assistant coach, since he has less bench experience.

In the Grantland article that Nalod shared it sounded like Kerr might be Jackson's first choice for coach. It will be interesting to see what happens.

Yeah that was a good article too. I was trying to use logic here. Cleamons was a long time assistant and a former teammate on the Knicks. I just think that might add up to a bit more in Cleamons column. Still should be interesting to see who Phil eventually taps for the job. I read a nice article on Tex Winter. I think Phil is gonna want to have this team run the Triangle. HE LOVES IT!!! Mainly cuz he loves the fact that it calls for teamwork and is the antithesis of ISO ball.

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3/16/2014  10:14 PM
I see Jim cleaning as a lifer as assistant coach. I think it will be Kerr. He will bring energy and fresh outlook
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3/17/2014  5:11 PM
nixluva wrote:IF Woodson was a legit coach, he would've instructed the team to play off the Pacers attention to Melo. Have guys ready to cut and Melo ready to dish to anyone that was left by a Pacer defender. It's really not Rocket science. You drive and draw defenders and your teammates present themselves for the dump off and finish. We never really developed that part of the game last year and it hurt us in the playoffs.

Melo is the kind of player that will last forever because his skills aren't reliant on athletic ability as much as skill and strength. I think Phil will want to keep him and add a key player to the mix that can bring it all together. The roster isn't as bereft of talent as many like to keep harping on. Our problems are more a function of the poor coaching and underperformance at the guard spots. Replace Felton with a better player and change the offense to the Triangle or at least something with more ball and player movement and we'll have something good going.

I hope you're right ("function of ht poor coaching and guard play"...), but, worry that Melo will not buy into this system, just as he opted out of MDA system.

Wish Melo would realize that his legacy (and, chances at winning) would be enhanced if he actually opted into a system which puts the ball in others hands (he's forced to on Olympics, simply due to reality of who else is on the roster...). Biggest judgement Phil will presumably have to make is whether he can get Melo to buy in. I'm suspect, which is why i'd prefer to see Knicks move on, but, if anyone can make a judgement about ability for star player to opt into team-first approach, its Phil J.

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3/17/2014  5:18 PM
gunsnewing wrote:I see Jim cleaning as a lifer as assistant coach. I think it will be Kerr. He will bring energy and fresh outlook

I used to hate Kerr- still don't like him. He doesn't come across particularly smart when he's commenting on games, and he doesn't seem to have much charisma or presence- I hope he's not our next coach.

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3/17/2014  5:34 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/17/2014  5:38 PM
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gunsnewing wrote:He's doing the best he can on the boards but he can not stop a guy like David west on either end of the floor. It's just no physically possible

TheN genius Michael Woodson puts an undersized SF on the floor with 2 6footers in the back court and it's a recipe for a defensive disaster

Phil don't play that

True but can anyone stop David West? He's usually in the conversation as an all-star each season. On the other hand, can David West stop Melo? It's highly unlikely. I hate small ball but I still don't know if Melo at the 4 necessarily constitutes being small. One thing I agree with is that we need to find real 2's and 3's that can rebound the ball. I'm tired of Fat-Man-Felton and JR/Shumpert playing out of position.


The problem is that David West isn't going to be the one playing Melo for long stretches. That role will go to Paul George during key stretches.Not that big of a problem if STAT is healthy or we have another wing forward capable of keeping defenses honest. A huge problem when you Shump out there opposite Melo and coaches don't feel the need to change their defensive schemes at all.
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3/17/2014  9:18 PM
Nice article talking about the Triangle from Phil's opponents and his supporters point of view.

Triangle Offense Has Its Defenders and Skeptics
By HARVEY ARATON MARCH 17, 2014

People tend to listen when Phil Jackson talks, or tweets, even in August, traditionally the N.B.A.’s tune-out season.

Last summer, while most pro basketball people were lounging on vacation, a bristling Jackson launched a stealth attack by posting three messages during a three-hour span on Twitter, targeting critics of his beloved triangle offense.

“Pundits say triangle is passé,” he wrote in one. “Tired of hearing it used as excuse for players. System basketball takes dedicated coaching basic skills.”

In a second missive, he wrote: “Footwork, passing, reading defense, and team work — the state of bball now is s/roll which is controlled by the dribbler is the easy way out.” He was referring to the all-too-common and predictable use of the screen-and-roll to generate offense.

Jackson concluded: “What was frowned on was to hold the ball and disrupt the rhythm since players were in motion off-ball, but individual has to be aggressive.”

Phil Jackson won 11 titles using the triangle offense, which maximizes ball and body movement.
Jackson could decide that the Knicks’ personnel does not fit the triangle, a free-flowing offensive scheme designed to maximize ball and body movement. But those who thought that Jackson’s return to the franchise he played for in the 1970s, when it won its only two championships, was in the stars might also appreciate that the Knicks’ logo is configured inside a triangle.

Jackson did not invent sharing the basketball — he learned the beauty of that playing in New York for Red Holzman. Nor did he invent the triangle — he was schooled on it as an assistant coach in Chicago by a colleague, Tex Winter, an innovator in the use of the triangle (or triple post) offense after playing a version of it for Coach Sam Barry during the 1940s at Southern California.

Winter, 92, now suffers from dementia. Jackson has become the triangle’s only modern N.B.A. champion — and he won a record 11 titles while using it as a head coach in Chicago and Los Angeles. His brief Twitter rant reveals the chasm that exists between Jackson and other coaches, many of whom consider him too critical of the contemporary game and condescending about how much the triangle figured in his own success.

Asked to comment on the efficacy of the triangle, several coaches — including the San Antonio Spurs’ Gregg Popovich, the league’s most tenured and successful over the last 20 years, outside Jackson — declined the opportunity. But Jim Cleamons, a longtime Jackson assistant, acknowledged the tensions.

“Some coaches, they would irritate or disappoint me with some of their comments,” Cleamons, an assistant coach with the Milwaukee Bucks, said before a recent game against the Knicks. “We’ve never said that was the only way to play, or the best way to play. It’s just a way to play.”

Despite the presence of Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen in Chicago and Kobe Bryant and Shaquille O’Neal (for three of Jackson’s five titles) in Los Angeles, few would dispute Jackson’s integral role as a master strategist and motivator. It is the spiritualization of his success — what some believe to be a marketing ploy — that has produced an ample amount of eye-rolling.

In his 1995 book, “Sacred Hoops: Spiritual Lessons of a Hardwood Warrior,” Jackson wrote: “The day I took over the Bulls, I vowed to create an environment based on the principles of selflessness and compassion I’d learned as a Christian in my parents’ home; sitting on a cushion practicing Zen; and studying the teachings of the Lakota Sioux.”

He wrote that he used the triangle as a means of bringing “cooperation and freedom, the very values I’d spent my life pursuing off the court and dreamed of applying to the game.”

On a more practical level, Jackson also convinced the supremely talented Jordan that his best chance of winning was within a more patterned offense.

Cleamons noted: “No matter what your system is, that’s got to be the first hurdle. So what’s happened with the triangle, because we won so much, it’s taken on a life of its own. But Tex always said that it’s basically a junior high school offense, based on the simple principle that any one of three positions — a guard, forward or center — can be your post player.

“At any time you can pass the ball to any of your four teammates, and if the defense takes any of those passes away, there’s a logical sequential action that takes place after that. If they take away all four passes, then you have an opportunity to drive the ball to the basket.”

Jim Cleamons, a longtime Phil Jackson assistant, said, “We’ve never said that was the only way to play, or the best way to play.”
Jackson has lamented how the N.B.A. game relies too heavily on the point guard to create off the dribble or a high screen. He espouses the near-rhythmic movement of five players to connect stars to their teammates.

Scott Williams, a center/forward who played for Jackson’s Bulls in the early 1990s and is an assistant coach for Milwaukee, credited the triangle with benefiting less-talented players.

“I had opportunities to have the basketball, make passes, make cuts, set picks,” he said. “It wasn’t just being parked out on an island like I was for the years after that when I went to Philly — all right, you two guys stand over here in the parking lot and when the shot goes up, try to get in there and give us an offensive rebound.”

But even in a copycat universe, the perception has been that the triangle, while great for Jackson’s teams, is not advisable for others. Unlike Popovich, whose Spurs teams also stress ball movement and spacing, Jackson has not had many assistants claim head coaching positions. Some were said to be handicapped because of their reputations as triangle acolytes.

Yet Mike Fratello, the television analyst who coached against Jackson during tenures in Atlanta, Cleveland and Memphis, said that many teams, including San Antonio, had incorporated triangle concepts related to positional strategy into their offenses. They just hate to admit it.

“Without question, there are pieces of it being used along with the other stuff they are running,” Fratello said.

Cleamons added: “You got a lot of teams now that run what they call elbow. Elbow is one of our strong-side actions. They’re all given new names, but many of these things are part of the triangle.”

Why the fear of the triangle in total? “Right now, you got kids coming out of college one year removed from high school and they don’t have skills,” Cleamons said. “It takes time to teach, and guys think they have to win now.”

As a rookie executive, Jackson may have similar pressure in New York. A possible clue for what he considers the ideal triangle player could be found among the 37 people he follows on Twitter. Among four active N.B.A. players is Joakim Noah, the most versatile and team-oriented big man in the league.

Fratello, who has not coached since 2007, said he never resented Jackson and added: “I liked the triangle — it gave you more options than the N.B.A. norm of the point guard dominating the ball. If run right, it connected people.”

Even people who did not much get along. Bryant and O’Neal feuded constantly while winning three titles with the Lakers. In Chicago, Jackson and the longtime Bulls executive Jerry Krause barely spoke by the end of the team’s six-championship run in 1998 and then had no contact until 2011, when Winter was inducted into the Hall of Fame.

Krause, who hired Jackson, said at the time that he shook his hand out of respect for Winter. The triangle worked again.


http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/18/sports/basketball/triangle-offense-has-its-defenders-and-skeptics.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&_r=1
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3/18/2014  1:26 AM
REALLY liked this article on Phil and Melo and the Triangle.

At 68, Jackson is not likely to embark on any five-year rebuilding plans unless he is given no choice. Given his track record, and ego, he would have every reason to think that implementing the triangle would make Anthony a more selective and team-oriented scorer in the way it helped Michael Jordan shed his early-career reputation as a premier solo act.

When Jackson relieved Doug Collins as the Bulls’ coach in 1989, he told the team’s general manager, Jerry Krause, that he wanted to run the triangle. As Collins’s assistant, Jackson had spent much time learning it from Tex Winter, who had grasped its fundamentals from his college coach, Sam Barry, at Southern California in the 1940s.

The triangle is a free-flowing offense that emphasizes body and ball movement, allowing all five players to assume multiple positions on the floor, especially at the post. Jackson has described it as “extremely simple,” comparing it to the rhythmic beat of music, yet it is complex enough to offer many options, depending on how the defense reacts to a series of passes early in the shot clock.

In Chicago, Jackson would tell players, “We don’t run the triangle for Michael and Scottie,” referring to Jordan and Scottie Pippen. “They can get 30 in any system,” Jackson said. “We run it for the rest of you. When you get good shots, that makes it easier on them.”

According to one of Jackson’s former colleagues, Jordan did not often score from the post in his early days. But after he found himself in preferred matchups within the triangle, he went home to North Carolina the next summer and worked extensively on his post-up game. That got him to the free-throw line more and saved him from the wear and tear of dribbling too much in traffic.

Jackson has also espoused the belief that the triangle decreases the need for a great point guard — a commodity the Knicks have long lacked.

Though critics occasionally mocked Jackson’s offense as brilliant until the shot clock wound down and Jordan took over, they missed the point of how much energy the defense had to expend when the ball continually moved, wherever its ultimate destination.

One of Jackson’s old confidants offered the opinion that Anthony — if he would buy into the system — could thrive, as Jordan did, winding up with shots in superior positions, especially in late-game situations when defenses tend to stiffen. That would presuppose that Jackson could find the right coach for the triangle and systematically add the right players to execute it.

There are not many coaches and players well versed in the triangle because Jackson’s teams were the only ones to run it.

Another Jackson acolyte said the players who best understood the triangle in Chicago were Dennis Rodman and Steve Kerr, which might lend credence to speculation that Kerr would be a strong candidate to replace Woodson next season.

No matter how much authority Jackson might have under Dolan, he would not have the power to guarantee Anthony’s return. When Jackson replaced Collins in Chicago, Jordan was 26 and was not a free agent. Anthony, who will turn 30 in May, will presumably have choices and could decide that the triangle is not for him.

In Boston with the Knicks on Wednesday, Anthony said that management had apprised him of the Jackson negotiations. “I heard he will be coming aboard,” he said, though it was hardly a formal announcement.

Anthony added: “The only thing I know is playing against him when he was out in L.A. You could just see the teams put together and how much confidence he gave them guys out there — what he was able to create.”

If Jackson, the so-called Zen master, does come, Anthony could get his maximum money along with a new mantra. That would guarantee another level right there.

The Phil Jackson Team Formula

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