mreinman wrote:

dk7th wrote:

Nalod wrote:

tkf wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Supposedly Phil does not want to keep Mills but Dolan is insisting he is kept and Dolan will overpay Phil to ensure that mills is kept.

Anyone else think this might lead to Larry brown like problems down the road where Phil will have an easy scapegoat if mills is involved in any basketball decisions? If you are bringing in Phil and pYing him all that money isn't it better to do it right and give him what he wants?

Also is Melo ok with this move after Phil criticized him for the ball sticking?

I asked myself why is mills even here if we have phil.. kind of odd..

as far as carmelo.. I hope phil gets rid of him first and JR second.... I dont' care if carmelo is OK with the move.. why should anyone care if he is? his job is to play ball..

While Phil is not coaching, he will mentor.

Do you think Melo can be "rehabilitated"?

probably too dumb to be rehabilitated. his bbiq is just not top shelf.

Completely disagree. He has an extremely high bball IQ and he is a very good passer. The problem is that he is not willing to pass enough, not because he is dumb, its because of selfishness and narcissism.

Zen does not need to teach him how to pass, he has to teach him how to want to pass. When Kidd was here, he told him pass the ball and the ball will find its way back to you. That helped a bit but not enough.

I bring him in at 15-18 per if phil believes that he can work with him.

I trust in Phil.

CrushAlot wrote:

mreinman wrote:

dk7th wrote:

Nalod wrote:

tkf wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Supposedly Phil does not want to keep Mills but Dolan is insisting he is kept and Dolan will overpay Phil to ensure that mills is kept.

Anyone else think this might lead to Larry brown like problems down the road where Phil will have an easy scapegoat if mills is involved in any basketball decisions? If you are bringing in Phil and pYing him all that money isn't it better to do it right and give him what he wants?

Also is Melo ok with this move after Phil criticized him for the ball sticking?

I asked myself why is mills even here if we have phil.. kind of odd..

as far as carmelo.. I hope phil gets rid of him first and JR second.... I dont' care if carmelo is OK with the move.. why should anyone care if he is? his job is to play ball..

While Phil is not coaching, he will mentor.

Do you think Melo can be "rehabilitated"?

probably too dumb to be rehabilitated. his bbiq is just not top shelf.

Completely disagree. He has an extremely high bball IQ and he is a very good passer. The problem is that he is not willing to pass enough, not because he is dumb, its because of selfishness and narcissism.

Zen does not need to teach him how to pass, he has to teach him how to want to pass. When Kidd was here, he told him pass the ball and the ball will find its way back to you. That helped a bit but not enough.

I bring him in at 15-18 per if phil believes that he can work with him.

I trust in Phil.

He is averaging more assists this year without Kidd in NY and he already has more assists this season then he had for the entire season last year.

He is averaging an awful 2.9 assists (0.4 in the 4th) this year which is below his career average? That is not improvement. Heck, 2 seasons ago, he averaged 3.8.

There is no reason why his not averaging 5 dimes a game. NONE. When he realizes that great players don't take so many contested shots and your team plays better when the ball does not stick then the sky is the limit.

Woody does not help this either with all the ISO's and no ball movement that he draws up on his blackboard.

mreinman wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

mreinman wrote:

dk7th wrote:

Nalod wrote:

tkf wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Supposedly Phil does not want to keep Mills but Dolan is insisting he is kept and Dolan will overpay Phil to ensure that mills is kept.

Anyone else think this might lead to Larry brown like problems down the road where Phil will have an easy scapegoat if mills is involved in any basketball decisions? If you are bringing in Phil and pYing him all that money isn't it better to do it right and give him what he wants?

Also is Melo ok with this move after Phil criticized him for the ball sticking?

I asked myself why is mills even here if we have phil.. kind of odd..

as far as carmelo.. I hope phil gets rid of him first and JR second.... I dont' care if carmelo is OK with the move.. why should anyone care if he is? his job is to play ball..

While Phil is not coaching, he will mentor.

Do you think Melo can be "rehabilitated"?

probably too dumb to be rehabilitated. his bbiq is just not top shelf.

Completely disagree. He has an extremely high bball IQ and he is a very good passer. The problem is that he is not willing to pass enough, not because he is dumb, its because of selfishness and narcissism.

Zen does not need to teach him how to pass, he has to teach him how to want to pass. When Kidd was here, he told him pass the ball and the ball will find its way back to you. That helped a bit but not enough.

I bring him in at 15-18 per if phil believes that he can work with him.

I trust in Phil.

He is averaging more assists this year without Kidd in NY and he already has more assists this season then he had for the entire season last year.

He is averaging an awful 2.9 assists (0.4 in the 4th) this year which is below his career average? That is not improvement. Heck, 2 seasons ago, he averaged 3.8.

There is no reason why his not averaging 5 dimes a game. NONE. When he realizes that great players don't take so many contested shots and your team plays better when the ball does not stick then the sky is the limit.

Woody does not help this either with all the ISO's and no ball movement that he draws up on his blackboard.

mreinman wrote:Sorry I was looking at per 36. 3.1 is his career average.

Are you happy with that? Do you not think he is capable of 5 per game?

CrushAlot wrote:

mreinman wrote:Sorry I was looking at per 36. 3.1 is his career average.

Are you happy with that? Do you not think he is capable of 5 per game?

I was pointing out that he averaged more assists without Kidd this year. He averaged 2.6 with Kidd.

Irrelevant. Kidd played far fewer minutes. Played SG and came off the bench

Like Yellow said it's up to the coach to convince him to share the ball especially in the 4th and not go 1 on 5. It's up to Melo to open up to the idea without wanting the coach fired and another yes man brought in. To cater to him

gunsnewing wrote:He is right. There's no reason why Melo can't average close to 5assists per game. Even the ball bigs in the game averaged at least close to 5. Melo never has even when he had talent.

Like Yellow said it's up to the coach to convince him to share the ball especially in the 4th and not go 1 on 5. It's up to Melo to open up to the idea without wanting the coach fired and another yes man brought in. To cater to him

still have a hunch that he bolts to chicago.

Kobe is trying to get MDA fired so that Melo would come but it ain't happenin

Chicago make perfect sense for everyone

gunsnewing wrote:Those guys draw so much attention on offense they average over 4assists in their sleep. Iverson, Kobe, Jordan, carter, McGrady etc

CrushAlot wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Those guys draw so much attention on offense they average over 4assists in their sleep. Iverson, Kobe, Jordan, carter, McGrady etc

Other than McGrady those guys are back court players and I think you are wrong about Carter.

Barkley average 3.9 for his career and had many seasons close to 5. And he was not a small forward

Durant is the best shooter in the league yet every year he improves his assists numbers. This year 5.6, last year 4.6 (3.4 for career but getting better and better).

Any player that gets doubled as much as him has no excuse.