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holfresh
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3/3/2014  4:24 PM
playa2 wrote:Because the OWNER and the coach of the Bulls believes in winning and are use to it.

One think I do like about the Bulls is that they aren't afraid to abandon a bad plan...They had no problems shipping out Curry, Chandler, J Crossover, Deng, etc...Bulls play hard and that helps against teams with no heart...But you meet the real teams in the post season and they haven't been able to crack that nut yet...
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3/3/2014  4:33 PM
if rose has not been working on his jumpshot then they may need to consider some sort of deal. players like him with diminished athleticism are problematic.
knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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3/3/2014  4:58 PM
I think the coach runs players into to the ground..They play too hard in the regular season...Rose has to work too hard and it's only him...It's like Amare his first year here...You can't ride players like that for 82 games and not expect injuries...Westbrook as well...
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3/3/2014  5:38 PM
It's the coach, you put Dj and Kirk on most teams in this league, and they will probably get waived..
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3/3/2014  7:18 PM
Noah is a TERRIBLE basketball player..but on one in the NBA plays harder. That hustle and heart rubs off on his team. I think thats why the Bulls have been able to succeed without Rose
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3/3/2014  7:25 PM
Swishfm3 wrote:Noah is a TERRIBLE basketball player..but on one in the NBA plays harder. That hustle and heart rubs off on his team. I think thats why the Bulls have been able to succeed without Rose

he is a top 15 player it's official you are insane.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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3/3/2014  7:27 PM

the whole is greater than the sum of the parts. character of players, coaching, and, chemistry make that happen.
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3/3/2014  8:40 PM
The Bulls have crappy point guards, but their weaknesses complement their strengths. Kirk Hienrich might be the worst offensive starting point guard in the league, but he still plays solid defense and can run an offense. Augustine found his shot and Thibs is putting him in a position where he has less pressure to run the team. Also, Heinrich's presence helps prevent DJ from getting destroyed on defense. Augustine shot way above his career averages earlier in the season for the Bulls. No one could have seen that coming. Thibs has just done a decent job of realizing what he has and putting his players in decent positions to succeed.
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3/3/2014  8:45 PM
I always said your pg needs to excel at something. Our PGs excl at nothing. Guys like fisher, chalmers, ward had long careers because at the bare minimum they defended and hit open 3's. Felton can't even do that
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3/3/2014  8:49 PM
Gotta give that to the coaching staff, development coach, and even GM for building a team that FITS collectively together
I have called them the SA Spurs of the East before, without the rings, they always seem to find ways to step up regardless of the injuries

Everyone can either defend their man 1v1, with great size, rebound, and with a great athletic/mobile/skilled C in Noah that helps when needed
Their weakest link is Boozer, however, he can rebound and even score at a efficient rate except vs top tier DEF teams, they have a great back up in Gibson

They just know their limits, attack as a team, spread the court well, and attack as a team, looking to exploit the weakness in opponents lineups on both OFF and DEF with their size
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3/3/2014  8:59 PM
gunsnewing wrote:I always said your pg needs to excel at something. Our PGs excl at nothing. Guys like fisher, chalmers, ward had long careers because at the bare minimum they defended and hit open 3's. Felton can't even do that

It's kinda like when we had Charlie Ward and Chris Childs, two backups. Van Gundy was able to maximize their abilities just enough to help us win.
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3/3/2014  10:20 PM
dk7th wrote:
Swishfm3 wrote:Noah is a TERRIBLE basketball player..but on one in the NBA plays harder. That hustle and heart rubs off on his team. I think thats why the Bulls have been able to succeed without Rose

he is a top 15 player it's official you are insane.

We all know that you don't actually WATCH Basketball games but when you get a chance, try and catch a Bulls game and you will see what I mean. It HURTS watching Noah do ANYTHING with a Basketball.

The greatest attribute that man has, is that he hustles from beginning to end regardless of score or opponent. That is what sets him apart from other players and why he is one of the top players in the league.
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3/3/2014  10:25 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
earthmansurfer wrote:
Nalod wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:And we can't win 30gmaes with a $90mil payroll?

One word: NOAH!

The kid is very underrated. His stat line is rebounds, blocks, and more so now assists.

He also is the back stop when the perimeter is violated.

He is top 5 MVP candidate.

And just a reminder for those that can't remember. Noah was with our pick and we LIKED the guy...

Was that the number 1 or 2 overall pick?

I think that one was 12th. Our other pick we traded in that deal, the one that ended up being LaMarcus Aldridge, was the 2nd overall pick.

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3/3/2014  11:25 PM
Swishfm3 wrote:
dk7th wrote:
Swishfm3 wrote:Noah is a TERRIBLE basketball player..but on one in the NBA plays harder. That hustle and heart rubs off on his team. I think thats why the Bulls have been able to succeed without Rose

he is a top 15 player it's official you are insane.

We all know that you don't actually WATCH Basketball games but when you get a chance, try and catch a Bulls game and you will see what I mean. It HURTS watching Noah do ANYTHING with a Basketball.

The greatest attribute that man has, is that he hustles from beginning to end regardless of score or opponent. That is what sets him apart from other players and why he is one of the top players in the league.

yeah i watched the game yesterday guy. noah is a great basketball player.

that said, the nba sucks balls as a product. too many teams, diluted talent pool, not worth tuning in seriously until round two where you have the top 8 teams. regular season i'll watch a top 8 team if available otherwise it just doesn't turn my crank.

fyi i can spot who is real and who isn't a whole lot faster than most other people. it's a gift.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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3/4/2014  12:36 AM
Swishfm3 wrote:
dk7th wrote:
Swishfm3 wrote:Noah is a TERRIBLE basketball player..but on one in the NBA plays harder. That hustle and heart rubs off on his team. I think thats why the Bulls have been able to succeed without Rose

he is a top 15 player it's official you are insane.

We all know that you don't actually WATCH Basketball games but when you get a chance, try and catch a Bulls game and you will see what I mean. It HURTS watching Noah do ANYTHING with a Basketball.

The greatest attribute that man has, is that he hustles from beginning to end regardless of score or opponent. That is what sets him apart from other players and why he is one of the top players in the league.

So what about him is terrible?

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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3/4/2014  5:47 AM
It's called defense. That's why the bulls win games. Thibs has a great system in place and he trains his players to play as a unit. We have no system or gameplan. Nobody knows what to do out there. It's a disgrace.
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