Vmart wrote:This switching is a sort of running away from duty. There comes a time when a team must rise to the challenge of a one on one matchup. Lock in on ones man on defense and if he get beat then help comes its as simple as that why complicate defense. Why the need to confuse your own players. The best defenses always run ball you man. Adding switches makes it ball you man and who is going to switch with you = confusion.

Some are not switching on purpose. .... Some are. I saw pablo do it instantly and melo showed frustration. They once melo helped he got beat back door by wade. I believe the scouting report on the knick is that they like to switch on defense so team are using pick and rolls on them all the time. When you have small guards with slow lateral quickness and not upper body strength they get swallowed up by every pick so a switch is mandatory unless you want to give teams wide open shots. You have to have 1 of two things. Small guards with latteral quickess and upper body strength. Or big guards that can guard multiple positions. If you don't have either then surround them with high defensive iq players that know how to help on defense while playing the passing lanes for this back door cuts. We are 0 for 3 on having a defense that works for today's nba.

His loyalty to veterans makes me sick. He would rather play a less efficient squad of vets then a savy group of young guys. Exp putting in brown over Tyler even the radio guy for the heat had a chuckle about it.

We might not be the same team as last year, but we are still better then Cleveland and atl and even Charlotte.

Because of woodys militant ways and failure to adjust his defensive schemes as well as his offensive schemes,we are probably one of the easiest teams to beat in the nba right now.

For opposing offenses all you have to do is set picks and they know we are switching pick until you pull chandler out of the paint and you have a clear path to the basket 80 percent of the time. It's quite simple and woody has no adjustment. He doesn't allow his players to play strait up man to man. I don't blame the players .

Now on offense it's quite simple to defend. pg brings the ball up chandler sets the screen and always rolls in defend the roll after that they are going to try to dump the ball to melo if they succeed in that double team him because everyone else will be standing around. If they don't get the ball to melo it's a free style free for all. The only shooter is melo so protect the paint and let them shoot. Our offense has zero fluid motion because our players have to stick to his scheme. Woody favors melo and chandler so much that no one else can even get into a flow on offense. This is pretty evident and I think most of the nba would agree with this. Jr can be a great scorer but because woody doesn't run plays for him it's hard for him to get in a flow.

His failure to give players credit for good play like Tyler, I think in his mind no one can touch chandler as a center on this team hence he will not expand his thought even if Tyson gets out played. though when Tyler is on the floor we are a plus ten in rebounds and points. He'd rather put in a Zero talented vet like brown over a up and coming player like Tyler he'd rather see a vet turn the ball over then a youth. I don't get his logic here actually there is no logic. He just hates the youth, even if they give us a better chance to win.

We have talent on this team we just have a coach who fails in every way. schemes,rotation,starting line up, disaplain, adjustments.

This is not the players fault. It's not Melos fault he only gets 6 to 8 minutes of rest a game and has no legs in the fourth quater. It's not Tyson's fault he should be coming off the bench giving us high energy minutes as well as Felton and shump. That's a awesome bench. It's also not the players fault on defense when woodys scheme of swithing doesn't work and his failure to change his scheme to the strengths of this team. It's not the players fault our offense is only run through melo and chandler and there is zero schemes on offensive after that.

Do the players play a role in the reason we are 16 under five hundred absolutely. but to say our roster can't make the playoffs in the east is reduclous. Or that we have zero talent. Our roster and talent is being used wrong.

Your not going to win with ray,Pablo,shump,melo,chandler as your team that closes out quarters.

Now could a line up of Pablo,thjr,melo,amare,chandler or Tyler close out quaters yes cause everyone can hit open shots minus chandler. Also Pablo is the only pg that can get everyone involved in the offense on this team.

But we need a new coach because of schemes. you could have a all star defensive team out there and opposing teams know how to draw our big men out of the paint and get to the hoop this is not our players fault one bit.

This is our team in a nut shell! Or woodys shell....

fishmike wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Mgmt isn't doing Woodson any favors, neither are some of his key players. Woody came in with an accountability mantra but that was a lot of hype for the most part. If he is a lousy coach now, he wasn't always one. He was a good to sometimes very good coach throughout his career, but not great. I don't believe his stint with this dysfunctional franchise should define his entire career. He should take some share of the blame as should the players and mgmt. This cluterf^%&^k was a group effort.

Toure Murry isnt Jeremy Lin. There was no guy sitting on this bench who was going to save the season.

Woody stuck with guys who performed better last year in hopes they would pick it up and start to gel. Its hard to fault him for that.

Before Melo, before Woody all the problems we have this year have existed for a long time.

lack of a leader

markvmc wrote:Maybe the job description should be changed from 'Knicks Head Coach' to 'Worst Coach in the NBA', since that is, apparently, what all our coaches end up becoming.

fishmike wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Mgmt isn't doing Woodson any favors, neither are some of his key players. Woody came in with an accountability mantra but that was a lot of hype for the most part. If he is a lousy coach now, he wasn't always one. He was a good to sometimes very good coach throughout his career, but not great. I don't believe his stint with this dysfunctional franchise should define his entire career. He should take some share of the blame as should the players and mgmt. This cluterf^%&^k was a group effort.

Toure Murry isnt Jeremy Lin. There was no guy sitting on this bench who was going to save the season.

Woody stuck with guys who performed better last year in hopes they would pick it up and start to gel. Its hard to fault him for that.

Before Melo, before Woody all the problems we have this year have existed for a long time.

Don't believe there is any excuse for his late game play calling. I don't mind Melo getting the call for the last shot but not every time, and not the same clear out. JR should have been benched long before he was if anything to show that Woodson meant something when he talked about accountability. Most of what I wrote was a defense of Woodson. No way I give him a complete pass for this season. Like I said, it was a group effort, so to speak.

I don't remember larry Brown instructing his players to switch when woodson was his assistant. The only coach that has always instructed his players to switch was MDA, and he still does it in LA.

The concept of switching is not a bad idea at all, but it involves a lot of communication and help defenders.

I know in the streets you yell switch, or I GOT HIM, if the offensive player is much taller and stronger then the defensive player, there should be an immediate double team, and everybody rotates, at the same time your also yelling out what you plan on doing.

Too many times the knicks players stay silent, the pg is on a island guarding a center, and when the help comes no one rotates or it comes late as hell.

Last yr we trapped relentlessly, fast and furious, as soon as the switch came, the double followed quickly.

gunsnewing wrote:We make the playoffs next year with a different coach bank on it

Is that with or without Melo?

and he's now taken the entire 13-14 season and stuffed it down the toilet