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Bonn1997
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2/19/2014  1:42 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:I don't believe this deal unless the knicks give up a future 1st Next thing you will tell me that Beno will get the knicks a 2014 2nd rounder and a young player.

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2/19/2014  1:42 PM
Clipps have a trade exception from Bledsoe of 2.6M. Think that would make it work straight up
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2/19/2014  1:45 PM
Thats why i want barnes included in the deal, Good defender. Look to move him in the off season
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2/19/2014  1:48 PM
SupremeCommander wrote:
NYY1NYK2 wrote:We need to move Beno and Artest for something

I agree but I'd rather get something of value moreso than a second rounder or a dleaguer


Really? Those guys have done nothing all season and pretty sure they've given up on the team. I'd trade them for a VHS box set of Sliders right now.
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2/19/2014  1:56 PM
NYY1NYK2 wrote:Can they thro in Mullens?

You want BJ?
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2/19/2014  1:59 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/19/2014  2:00 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:I don't believe this deal unless the knicks give up a future 1st Next thing you will tell me that Beno will get the knicks a 2014 2nd rounder and a young player.

+1

I don't know if I believe this either, unless the Clips really like Shumpert a lot. I mean come on -- face value here: Collison is better than Felton and a good 3 yrs younger; and you can make an argument that Bullock's better than Shumpert, arguably a guy with a better game now & better future. I mean if we can get this done w/o including a future 1...WOW. Show me.
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2/19/2014  1:59 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/19/2014  2:00 PM
NYKBocker wrote:
NYY1NYK2 wrote:Can they thro in Mullens?

You want BJ?

Yes, makes tyson even more expendable
AND makes this team YOUNGER
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2/19/2014  2:00 PM
interesting. I dont know much about Bullock. Collison is an interesting player. I thought when he got his shot to start he would never look back. Im not sure why he's bounced around so much. He's one of the fastest guys in the league. Good with defensive pressure, but not physical so 1-1 you can beat him up some.

He certainly adds things we lack... and it makes us younger.

I also wouldnt give up on Shump just yet. I think he's going to be good...

Does Collison come in and start? Interesting...

"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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2/19/2014  2:02 PM
Better than teague
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2/19/2014  2:03 PM
Reddick is out for awhile with a bulging did in his back. They need shump. Also wouldn't be surprised if they brought brown back.
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2/19/2014  2:06 PM
gunsnewing wrote:Better than teague
depends on cost. I like Teague in a salary dump... I would love him in a Jamal Crawford role, first guard off the bench. Can play point. Really good scorer. Really quick. Good tempo setter.

We need a lot more.

I would rather spend and get a piece we can build around like Lowry. Guys like Teague and to a lesser degree Collison are ok but arent changing the dynamic of the team. A legit floor general could. Is that Collison? Hmmmm....

"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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2/19/2014  2:07 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
NYY1NYK2 wrote:We need to move Beno and Artest for something

I agree but I'd rather get something of value moreso than a second rounder or a dleaguer


Really? Those guys have done nothing all season and pretty sure they've given up on the team. I'd trade them for a VHS box set of Sliders right now.

I prefer to take the long view but point taken

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2/19/2014  2:07 PM
CrushAlot wrote:Reddick is out for awhile with a bulging did in his back. They need shump. Also wouldn't be surprised if they brought brown back.
bulging dick in his back?
"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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2/19/2014  2:11 PM
fishmike wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Reddick is out for awhile with a bulging did in his back. They need shump. Also wouldn't be surprised if they brought brown back.
bulging dick in his back?

LMAO, DISK*
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2/19/2014  2:12 PM
fishmike wrote:interesting. I dont know much about Bullock. Collison is an interesting player. I thought when he got his shot to start he would never look back. Im not sure why he's bounced around so much. He's one of the fastest guys in the league. Good with defensive pressure, but not physical so 1-1 you can beat him up some.

He certainly adds things we lack... and it makes us younger.

I also wouldnt give up on Shump just yet. I think he's going to be good...

Does Collison come in and start? Interesting...


Prigs prolly starts at first, but at Collison gives an alternative with better scoring and on the ball defensive. Tyson will be more effective when he doesn't have to worry point guard attack dancing his way to the rim every play. Collison is skinny, so guys will be able to push him around. But heck, Felton is strong for his position and look were that got him on D.
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2/19/2014  2:14 PM
What if it's THJ NOT SHUMP
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2/19/2014  2:15 PM
fishmike wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Better than teague
depends on cost. I like Teague in a salary dump... I would love him in a Jamal Crawford role, first guard off the bench. Can play point. Really good scorer. Really quick. Good tempo setter.

We need a lot more.

I would rather spend and get a piece we can build around like Lowry. Guys like Teague and to a lesser degree Collison are ok but arent changing the dynamic of the team. A legit floor general could. Is that Collison? Hmmmm....

My question as well. Long term?
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2/19/2014  2:21 PM
gunsnewing wrote:What if it's THJ NOT SHUMP

No deal
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2/19/2014  2:24 PM
This Trade is Successful!
Start OverAdjust TradeSave Trade
New York Knicks
Over Tax Line
$17,845,877
Cap Room
-$30,126,651
PlayerSalary PER

D. Collison$1,900,000 16.5
PG 2 Years

R. Bullock$1,149,000 7.5
SG 4 Years

A. Jamison$884,293 8.0
PF 1 Year
Acquiring 3 Players
$3,933,293

Hollinger's Analysis:
You have not affected the winning percentage of this team.
Los Angeles Clippers
Over Tax Line
$2,094,432
Cap Room
-$15,117,967
PlayerSalary PER

R. Felton$3,637,073 12.4
PG 3 Years

T. Hardaway Jr.$1,196,760 14.3
SG
yellowboy90
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2/19/2014  2:26 PM
If true though the real question is would or could they get a three team deal and bring in lowry with Collinson and Bullock going to Toronto and a protected 2018 1st.
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