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2/17/2014  8:13 AM
According to well-connected NBA writer Ken Berger, "A lot of teams have made it known which players they are open to moving, but the problem is finding trade partners. Very few teams are willing to part with premium draft picks or take on future salary, which are the two key drivers for trades." This doesn't mean that there won't be a flurry of deals before the Feb. 20 deadline, but for now GMs seem reticent to tip their hands.
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2/17/2014  10:35 AM
gunsnewing wrote:Hardaway becomes 6th man and Lin and shump reunite in the backcourt. This will inspire Shumpert and you will see lock down defense every play

We don't need JR's inconsistencies and headaches. Hardaway needs a bigger role

If this trade happens then there will be a big jump start in the Knick season. You would still need to get rid of Woody though.

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2/17/2014  10:38 AM
Absolutely but we would be better regardless. Lin would be the coach on the floor like Kidd was last year. Woodson can just worry about defense which is what he is limited to. And quite honestly his defensive switching strategy at the pro level is a joke
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2/17/2014  10:39 AM
http://www.nj.com/sixers/index.ssf/2014/02/nba_trade_rumors_san_antonio_g.html

NBA Trade Rumors: San Antonio going hard after Sixers' Thaddeus Young?

Of the trio of Sixers' players who are believed to be available -- Spencer Hawes, Evan Turner, Thaddeus Young -- there is little doubt that Young is the most valuable.

Which is why it should come as no surprise that one of the top franchises in the league might be coming after him.

According to Sam Amico of Fox Sports, the Spurs would "love" to land Young in a trade. The Spurs have been rumored for some time to be interested in the Sixers' prospects, but many believed it was Evan Turner they were after. Now, however, it looks like they could be coming for the Sixers' top asset.

So what could a deal between the Spurs and Sixers involving Young look like, if they were able to pull it off before the trade deadline?

With Young making over $8 million, the Spurs would have to package players together in order to acquire him. The Sixers would likely not take back any big money deals over one year, which takes out players like Tiago Splitter (4 years, $10 million) out of the equation.

One possibility is a package of Boris Diaw and Kawhi Leonard for Young. Giving up Leonard is likely a long shot for the Spurs, but you have to give to get, and Leonard is the only young, valuable player on the Spurs roster. There have also been some rumblings that the Spurs would be willing to move Leonard, if the right deal came along.

Leonard has more than one year left on his deal, but just under $2 million, it's a contract the Sixers would gladly take. The 6-7, 230 lb guard is averaging 11.6 points and 6.1 rebounds this season, and would be a perfect fit on the Sixers.

What else could the Spurs offer other than Leonard?

The Spurs could offer their first round pick, but unlike Hawes or Turner, the Sixers probably won't just give up Young for a late round pick. Danny Green is another asset the Spurs could offer, as the Sixers' would probably be willing to take on the three-point shooter. His deal ($3.7 mil/2 years) isn't huge, and would also work with Diaw's expiring contract to make a move for Young work.

So hhow likely is a Young for Leonard swap? It's probably a long shot, but if the Spurs are serious about landing Young, Leonard might have to be involved.

A caveat that would seriously test how much they "love" Young.

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2/17/2014  10:43 AM
NYKBocker wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Hardaway becomes 6th man and Lin and shump reunite in the backcourt. This will inspire Shumpert and you will see lock down defense every play

We don't need JR's inconsistencies and headaches. Hardaway needs a bigger role

If this trade happens then there will be a big jump start in the Knick season. You would still need to get rid of Woody though.

It would be the perfect time to do it. Mills putting his signature on the team with this move could also involve a coaching change. My hope is that the Knicks hire a real gm and he brings in his own coach. I am pretty disappointed with everything to do with Mills replacing Grunwald.
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2/17/2014  11:55 AM
I feel like this is going to be another quiet trade deadline like last year's. There are so few buyers and even fewer with any nice assets I don't think much is going to get done. Here's how I breakdown the buyers and sellers in each division:

Atlantic
Toronto - Could go either way depending on what sort of offers they get. Sure they're in 1st but the division is ****ing terrible and they're only on pace for 44 wins, no where near a title contender. My guess Ujiri wants to sell but ownership won't let him unless they get blown away with an offer.

Brooklyn - Buyers but should be sellers; they're an old, bad team. The JJ and KG/PP trades have left the cupboard completely bare in terms of picks and young assets. Lopez is their best player but can't stay healthy. Deron Williams has been exposed as a fake superstar. Pierce has been mediocre and Garnett has been terrible. They should just bite the bullet and see if they can get anything of value for any of their players but they probably won't and will continue to suck for the foreseeable future.

New York - Buyers but should be sellers; we're an old, bad team. I've made my thoughts on this roster and what we should do about it very clear over the last couple of years so I won't rehash that now. What I think we'll probably try to do is this: look into trading Beno, Metta, and possibly Kenyon for future 2nd rounders like we did Ronnie Brewer last year; jump at any trade that upgrades our PG and includes only 2 out of 3 of Shump, THJr, and our 2018 1st; will try to pawn of Amare on anyone who'll have him but nothing will happen; might consider trading Tyson in the right deal. At the end of the day if we do anything it will probably only involve 2nd rounders and our bench warmers.

Boston - Sellers. Figure everyone, even Rondo and Green, are available at the right price. And they have some guys that could be valuable role players on good teams. Humphries is a $12M expiring, Bass is nice off the bench and only has 1 year left, someone might take a chance on Joel Anthony as a backup center to play 15 minutes/game. Oh, and if anyone wants to take Gerald Wallace off their hands I'm sure they would jump at the opportunity.

Philly - Sellers. Everyone outside of MCW is available but I'm not sure that anyone's really buying. I could see OKC, Houston, SA, and LAC having interest in Hawes or Thad Young but I don't know they'll be willing to give up what Philly wants.

Central
Indy - Buyers but probably won't do anything. The only major piece they'd be willing to trade is Granger but figure just about everyone else is nearly untouchable unless Lebron or Durant became available. Will probably look to upgrade backup PG but I doubt they do anything.

Chicago - Sellers? Maybe? They already made one major move trading Deng to Cleveland. I could see them looking to move Taj Gibson or Boozer for cap relief though I don't know that anyone would really want Boozer.

Detroit - Buyers. This team kind of sucks and Dumars is kind of incompetent. Could move Monroe in a deal for backcourt help which would allow them to move Drummond to C and Josh Smith to PF.

Cleveland - Buyers? They suck but they're always looking to "win now". Can't draft or trade competently and their owner is a buffoon (God, that sounds familiar!). Probably still looking to move Waiters but that might be difficult since I don't know if anyone in the organisation is competent enough to work a telephone.

Milwaukee - Sellers! Everyone outside of Giannis and possibly Larry Sanders can be had but, unless you think you can rehabilitate Ilyasova, why the **** would you want any of them?

Southeast
Miami - Buyers but what do they have to buy with? Doubt they do anything; they'll wait until after the deadline and see which veterans get bought out.

Atlanta - Buyers, maybe? No idea what they'll do or what they're thinking.

Washington - Buyers. A decent team, young, and the owner wants to win now. Figure Nene and Ariza can be had for the right price but unless it improves them this season they won't do anything.

Charlotte - Who the **** ever knows what Jordan's thinking or why he does anything.

Orlando - Sellers. Jameer, Afflalo, and Glen Davis are all guys that could be valuable to the right team and I'm sure Orlando would have no qualms about trading.

Northwest
OKC - Buyers. They have a ton of picks and young, talented players and they have a nice big expiring in Kendrick Perkins. Could, and should, make a move to really put them over the top. If there are any major trades it'll involve either OKC or Phoenix.

Portland - Buyers but with nothing to buy with. Exceeded expectations and are the 2nd biggest surprise in the league. Problem is they're thing as paper and can't really afford to trade anyone. Probably won't do anything.

Minnesota - Buyers probably. Really in the same situation as us where they're looking to please Love and convince him not to leave in 2015.

Denver - I don't understand anything they've done since losing in the playoffs last year.

Utah - Sellers. They have something like $30M in expiring contracts so if anyone wants to make a major splash they'll contact Utah first. Really though, the only thing I could really see them doing is moving Heyward who can be a RFA after this season. He might be the best player that gets moved at the deadline.

Pacific

LAC - Buyers. Could really use a defensive, rebounding big man off their bench. Is an obvious destination for Kenyon or Garnett if they became available.

Phoenix - Buyers, shockingly. Biggest surprise of the season! And they have a ton of draft picks they'd be willing to move for a superstar. Unfortunately, or fortunately depending on how you look at it, I doubt any big names become available. If I were them I'd be talking to Chicago about Okafor and a 1st for Taj Gibson.

Golden State - Nothing. Only move they'll make is firing Mark Jackson if he can't fix the offense.

LAL - Sellers. Gasol can be had but there's nothing else on the roster.

Sacramento - Somehow, insanely, they're buyers. Any team that's willing to take on the awful Rudy Gay and his even more awful contract could do anything.

Southwest
San Antonio - Buyers. Won't do anything crazy but I could see them trading for some bench help.

Houston - Buyers and sellers. They'll want to improve the team while also dumping Lin and Asik who don't mesh very well with Harden and Dwight. They would love to get a stretch 4 to play next to Dwight.

Dallas - Buyers but what do they really have to offer? Cuban should've just gone all-in with Dirk and Tyson but he tried to get cute and is instead wasting the last years of Dirk's career.

Memphis - No idea.

New Orleans - Buyers. Probably also looking to see if anyone's interested in Gordor or Evans. Another team that might be getting screwed with a "win now" owner.

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2/17/2014  2:08 PM

Knicks Trade Carmelo Anthony to the Suns For Emeka Okafor, Channing Frye, and Two 1st Round Picks

If the Knicks wanted to trade Carmelo Anthony for fear of him curving them for non-dysfunctional pastures in the summer, this trade might realistically be what the market holds. No team wants to overpay for Anthony when they can sign him in six months (ironically, that's exactly what the Knicks did when they traded for Anthony in 2011). The Suns have expressed their desire to pool their assets and draft picks into a superstar, so if Anthony was willing to go down to Phoenix and re-sign there (obviously, any Anthony trade hinges on his willingness to sign a contract extension with his new club), they would be a perfect match for the Knicks.

Emeka Okafor's neck injury has kept him off the floor all season, but his $14,487,500 expiring contract is a nice salary dump. Channing Frye would come back to the Knicks here, shoring up a thin frontline. His contract also expires next season, which lines up perfectly with the Knicks current cap sheet—they only have $12,674,322 in committed salaries in 2015, and with a loaded free agent pool that summer (LaMarcus Alridge, Rajon Rondo, Kyrie Irving, Ricky Rubio, Kevin Love, and Roy Hibbert will be out there), they'll have a shot to sign one or two max contract stars. But the real big man in the deal is Miles Plumee, who's averaging a double-double per game as a first-year starter in the NBA. He's exactly the type of player the Knicks need more of—young, cheap, but still productive.

The whole trade feels like an underwhelming haul for a Top 10 NBA talent, but the Suns have six first round picks over the next two drafts, including four in this year's much-hyped class. One or two of those would put Knicks GM Steve Mills over the moon. If I was Mills right now, I'd be phoning up Suns GM Ryan McDonough day and night to make this deal happen. Given the way this season has gone, and the fact that the rotation doesn't stand to change much next year, it's time the Knicks burn the ship before it sinks, and start running the franchise like a sane person—value draft picks, affordable young talent, and patience. Fans today are too smart for any other bull****, much less Dolan's confused agenda of paying to win now without winning players and coaches.

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2/17/2014  2:16 PM
ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
But Knicks said to be investigating all PG options since they're convinced top target Kyle Lowry is NOT available between now and Thursday
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2/17/2014  2:29 PM
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2/17/2014  9:08 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/17/2014  9:13 PM
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/231988/Report-Celtics-Would-Trade-Rajon-Rondo-For-Two-Unprotected-First-Rounders

I was thinking about a three way deal between Suns, Knicks and Boston. As far as I remember, these 3 guys' salaries are around 12 mil. We could throw in Shump to sweeten the deal for either team that might need convincing.

Knicks out:
TC, 2018 1st
In:
Rondo

Suns out:
Emeka
One of their 4 1st round picks
In:
Tyson

Boston out:
Rondo

In:
Emeka
2 1st RD picks

Suns get the C they want/need for basically one 1st RD pick. Boston gets their picks. We solve our PG woes.

Edit: works on ESPN trade machine

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2/17/2014  9:49 PM
skeng wrote:http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/231988/Report-Celtics-Would-Trade-Rajon-Rondo-For-Two-Unprotected-First-Rounders

I was thinking about a three way deal between Suns, Knicks and Boston. As far as I remember, these 3 guys' salaries are around 12 mil. We could throw in Shump to sweeten the deal for either team that might need convincing.

Knicks out:
TC, 2018 1st
In:
Rondo

Suns out:
Emeka
One of their 4 1st round picks
In:
Tyson

Boston out:
Rondo

In:
Emeka
2 1st RD picks

Suns get the C they want/need for basically one 1st RD pick. Boston gets their picks. We solve our PG woes.

Edit: works on ESPN trade machine

Just not sure why Phoenix is trading for a center when they have a decent one already in Plumlee and they just drafted one 5th overall in Len.

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2/17/2014  10:24 PM
VCoug wrote:
skeng wrote:http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/231988/Report-Celtics-Would-Trade-Rajon-Rondo-For-Two-Unprotected-First-Rounders

I was thinking about a three way deal between Suns, Knicks and Boston. As far as I remember, these 3 guys' salaries are around 12 mil. We could throw in Shump to sweeten the deal for either team that might need convincing.

Knicks out:
TC, 2018 1st
In:
Rondo

Suns out:
Emeka
One of their 4 1st round picks
In:
Tyson

Boston out:
Rondo

In:
Emeka
2 1st RD picks

Suns get the C they want/need for basically one 1st RD pick. Boston gets their picks. We solve our PG woes.

Edit: works on ESPN trade machine

Just not sure why Phoenix is trading for a center when they have a decent one already in Plumlee and they just drafted one 5th overall in Len.

It's a good point. But maybe they're aiming high come playoff time and have their doubts about Plumlee being adequate. How long is Len out for? TC would be a 1,5 year rental. But it depends on how they see TC. If they see Flu TC, then this trade sucks

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2/18/2014  9:53 AM
The Rumor: According to Sam Smith of Bulls.com, the asking price for Rajon Rondo is said to be two unprotected first-round picks. Zach Lowe of Grantland is hearing the same.

I guess we are out of the Rondo sale.

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2/18/2014  10:08 AM
Good I hope he is trade by Thursday so the media can stop talking about Rondo and force the Knicks to realize that they need to stop with the starphuch a for malcontents and injury riddled bums
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2/18/2014  1:35 PM
No trade can fix the Knicks.
The problem is at the top of the organization.
The rest is irrelevant.
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2/18/2014  1:46 PM
Trades are so exciting!!!!
Change is good! right?
Anyone has to be better than felton.
Anyone has to be better than woodson.
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2/18/2014  2:32 PM
If we don't trade Melo then the only trade I want is for Asik and Lin.
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2/18/2014  7:05 PM
As per The Chad
Knicks Interested In Trading For Jeremy Lin
Feb 18, 2014 6:06 PM EST

The New York Knicks are interested in trading for Jeremy Lin.

The Knicks let Lin sign with the Houston Rockets in the 2012 offseason.

New York has been searching for trade possibilities at point guard.

Lin's contract expires after the 14-15 season, which preserves their cap flexibility for 2015.

Via Chad Ford/ESPN

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2/18/2014  7:20 PM
NYKBocker wrote:As per The Chad
Knicks Interested In Trading For Jeremy Lin
Feb 18, 2014 6:06 PM EST

The New York Knicks are interested in trading for Jeremy Lin.

The Knicks let Lin sign with the Houston Rockets in the 2012 offseason.

New York has been searching for trade possibilities at point guard.

Lin's contract expires after the 14-15 season, which preserves their cap flexibility for 2015.

Via Chad Ford/ESPN

Wow...would be a slap in the face for Dolan and Felton....but an interesting rumor. Houston adds the poison pill...gets two yrs of Lin which increased their revenue....now we will pay for the worse yr of his contract. Houston makes off like a fat rat if they get something from us in return.

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blkexec wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:As per The Chad
Knicks Interested In Trading For Jeremy Lin
Feb 18, 2014 6:06 PM EST

The New York Knicks are interested in trading for Jeremy Lin.

The Knicks let Lin sign with the Houston Rockets in the 2012 offseason.

New York has been searching for trade possibilities at point guard.

Lin's contract expires after the 14-15 season, which preserves their cap flexibility for 2015.

Via Chad Ford/ESPN

Wow...would be a slap in the face for Dolan and Felton....but an interesting rumor. Houston adds the poison pill...gets two yrs of Lin which increased their revenue....now we will pay for the worse yr of his contract. Houston makes off like a fat rat if they get something from us in return.

Brilliant move- could have just matched him and got him for free, but instead Dolans ego makes us end up giving up some assets, on top of the assets we gave Portland for Felton.

Never going to happen though.

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