fishmike wrote:

fitzfarm wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:The problem with just grabbing any young pg to play with melo is not going to work, you almost certainly need an above avg veteran pg.

You want me to believe that just because a pg is faster and more athletic then felton he would be a better option, I highly doubt it.

We won 54 games with a pg who just retired, If woodson is our coach we need to focus on a pg with a very high IQ, not some run of the mill d-league player who has a little potential

It would be nice to get Lowry but I don't wanna give up our youth, Kendall marshal from the d league is averaging 10 and 9 assist a game ... Pierre Jackson is a better prospect if he came in I bet 15 and 8.. And he is better then Felton it would be a automatic upgrade

A guy with no NBA experience whos the size of a squirrel is going to be an instant upgrade to Felton? Is that really what your saying?

In some ways he might be, but of course he is not all around better at this time. But, with a little seasoning, he might do a Jeremy Lin towards the playoffs.
That is all we can hope for. With Felton "What you see is what you get" and that isn't terrible, but it isn't going to take us out of the first or second round.

We have an up and coming scorer in THJr, a huge scorer in Melo and we need a PG to get the ball to guys like Chandler in a nice spot (not as worried about Tyler).
Really, this kid might be something quite disruptive on offense. And on defense, well, at least he won't allow pg's to blow by him like Felton, but yeah, he will get bodied.
But luckily we at least have some real centers on the team. We will make due.

Regarding how can we get him Crush - I wasn't aware of the slot thing. I wonder if they can just call him up, put him on a contract and then trade him?
We might be able to trade an equal salary (or sign one, if not Toure) and then throw in a 2nd round pick if need be.
What we have going for ourselves is his agent. If there is an opportunity for him to play on the Pelicans due to injuries and he is still getting no burn, we have a chance.

Woodson and our coaching staff doesn't do a good job in developing players
A reason I want ALL OF THEM FIRED by the end of the year with a proven head coach/GM that will work together on building a team

I do agree we need an upgrade at the position though
But I have my eyes on stoppage PG's with the MLE like

Sessions
Bayless
Greviez Vasquez (as a SG playing 2 PG's like we did last season)
Darren Collison
Mo Williams

Jameer Nelson? I don't think Orlando will pick up his team option and he could be available but I would rather have some of the players above

Nate Robinson (doubtful with his ACL injury)

or MLE
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Trevor Ariza

Shawn Marion

in 2015 there is

Dragic at 8m per year
Lin at about 4-5m

Rhondo ???? at what salary and how he heals, I think he had benefitted from having a lot of veterans that had chemistry together but I don't think he is a TRUE ALL STAR caliber PG like CP3

Reggie Jackson (OKC could be cheap once again, letting talent walk)
Monta Ellis (opt out)

Tony Parker at his age I don't know but would need a huge paycut, closer to 5m at best with 2years and team option on 3rd

Irving, Rubio, Kemba Walker (talks of him wanting to walk but he is a RFA so likely would need to wait another year for them to either sign an LONG term deal to stay with their current teams, trade, or them taking the 1year qualifying offer which would likely result in a trade as well)

fitzfarm wrote:Pierre Jackson plays a lot like Isaiah Thomas who is a beast for sac town... There is no reason p jax cant be just as good as Isaiah Thomas,he's just as talented...IT is averaging 20 and 6 right now...

fitzfarm wrote:Also with Nash,Blake,famar coming back moving back can we steal Kendal Marshall away from lal

why would they do that when he is playing better than all 3 of them and is younger than all three of them and LA is not contending anytime soon?

Lin is worth every single penny more than Felton, especially considering Felton's contract goes beyond 2015 and is considered a backup at best and is declining

With Lin, we were capped out anyway and didnt cost us any assets to keep him

meanwhile

Novak, Kidd, Camby cost more than Lin

not to mention

MWP, PAblo, and then AB and those picks as well

All so Melo could initiate our offense and not trying to find balance between the 2 for the sake of the rest of the team
Lin makes other players better with his ability to penetrate/facilitate

While Felton just tries to make Melo happy by giving him the ball

Is this on the coach, Melo, or the decision not to keep Lin?
Because that is why we don't get easy baskets anymore and play uptempo basketball, needing JR Smith to be our #1 penetration player and facilitator

misterearl wrote:

sealy wrote:

When Felton is the primary PG the offense has absolutely no flow and really never has. All an opponent has to do is take away the guy's slow moving penetrating lob for an alley oop and he's got nothing; no outside shot, no D, etc...

Felton walks the ball upcourt in open space when he should be running and pushing the tempo.

Pulls up his dribble too early which forces other players to pick him up and compensate for the loss of valuable time.

Thinks like a shooting guard by looking for his shot before the assist

Sadly, the game has passed Felton by

He SOMETIMES pushes while 50% of the time Melo walks up to throw it to Chandler who looks to pass it back to someone else
It is predictable and doesnt work

Livingston

Patty Mills
or even Nando De Colo

Roberts or Pierre Jackson

Kendall Marshall

Bobby Brown

btw, is Baron Davis still coming back? LOL

they would all be upgrades at the PG spot and Murry should be getting for PT since he is the only one capable of possibility defending that position
but Woodson is so stubborn and favors his PG's that cannot defend for their lives

but

with the MLE we can target better targets like

Sessions
Collison
Bayless
Vasquez
Mo Williams