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fitzfarm
Posts: 25165 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/28/2010 Member: #3285 |
1/28/2014 12:25 PM
I'd like to say thjr is a mix of his dad and rolando Blackman with more athletic ability, thjr can beat you with his three or step in for the midrange,or drive to the hoop also great in transition. Sky is the limit for this kid... Absolutely has potential to be a lot better then Lowry . Thjr will be a star in time. You don't trade a rookie with that potential for a guy who is 28 and has averaged 11 and 5 for his career. Yes lowry is beasting it, In a contract year. Toronto prob knows Lowry is gone in the offseason. I'd do a Felton,shump even though I don't want to trade shump. So I think I would offer Felton, and jr (works on espn trade machine) first. Then if that doesn't work I replace jr with shump. Lowry looks nice next to thjr,shump,melo,chandler/stat. That team is going to go deep into the playoffs
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fitzfarm
Posts: 25165 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/28/2010 Member: #3285 |
1/28/2014 12:36 PM
Plus Toronto at least gets something for nothing if he leaves via free agent in the off season. You can't keep players in Toronto, also ray,jr,Damar,Amir Johnson,Val is a ok team ...not much of a downgrade. Also Toronto has a love affair for Lin. ray has a movable contract. I don't care what people say about jr he's super talented..Also what kinda trouble will he get into in Toronto lol
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Moonangie
Posts: 24766 Alba Posts: 5 Joined: 7/9/2009 Member: #2788 |
1/28/2014 12:45 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:Moonangie wrote:EnySpree wrote:Im not willing to give up thjr under no circumstances. As a FA when Toronto let's him walk, which seems inevitable. If he gets traded, he'd have to re-up with the signing team. I am not totally sold on KL. If it's only Ray and Iman, then I would go for it. But no way in hell I add in our future star THjr. If KL falls into our laps via FA, all the better. |
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fitzfarm
Posts: 25165 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/28/2010 Member: #3285 |
1/28/2014 12:52 PM
Moonangie wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:Moonangie wrote:EnySpree wrote:Im not willing to give up thjr under no circumstances. I 100 % agree. Thjr= future star. No way do you trade him for 28 year old kl... He'd be nice via fa or Felton. Hopefully not shump |
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playa2
Posts: 34922 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 5/15/2003 Member: #407 |
1/28/2014 1:05 PM
djsunyc wrote:playa2 wrote:Toronto is fooling you guys,the Raptors were and still are a very CHEAPorganization. They milk their good players for as long as possible until they give them up. I will be shocked if they sign Lowery long term or he decides to stay there because of their reputation with other NBA STARS. Wait for the deadline and off season and get back with me. DJ,Who have the RAPTORS signed who IN THE PAST who has played big time NBA BALL ?
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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Bonn1997
Posts: 58654 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 2/2/2004 Member: #581 USA |
1/28/2014 1:07 PM
Moonangie wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:Moonangie wrote:EnySpree wrote:Im not willing to give up thjr under no circumstances. You think we're getting him for the league min? We don't have cap space |
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Vmart
Posts: 31800 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/23/2002 Member: #247 USA |
1/28/2014 1:10 PM
BigRedDog wrote:djsunyc wrote:ah yes, tim haradway junior...the new landry fields. or the old iman shumpert? maybe the new frank williams? That's no way to write about the guy who gave everyone the Alba thread. |
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BigDaddyG
Posts: 39943 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 1/22/2010 Member: #3049 |
1/28/2014 1:25 PM
I think it says something that no other team is willing to meet the Raptors asking price.Kyle is having career year, but it's during a contract year and he's mad injury prone. Lowry almost fits the definition of a fluke rule player and he'll probably go back to being a middle of the road player next season. I'm against giving up a young player and a pick for him.
Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
- The Tick
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Dagger
Posts: 22065 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 4/12/2012 Member: #4184 |
1/28/2014 1:27 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:Dagger wrote:Shump, Felton, and a 1st SHOULD be enough. Give up more than that when the Raptors have absolutely zero leverage? No thanks. This is not a player the raps have under contract for 4 years? How are they better off letting him walk for nothing than they are getting a 1st round pick, a back-up pg and a SG with decent potential... Lowry is an above average PG but it's not like we're talking about an elite PG. |
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Clean
Posts: 30335 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 8/22/2004 Member: #743 |
1/28/2014 1:44 PM
Are we seriously talking about giving up Tim or Shump plus a 1st for a player who can leave in 2 to 3 months? We Knick fans are like dogs getting distracted by the next shiny thing. In this case is it the same shiny thing we have seen before. My stance has not changed one bit. I am done giving up unprotected picks for free. Do I think Lowry is worth a protected 1st yes. Do I think he is worth a protected 1st when he can leave in 2 to 3 months? Hell no!
Knicks fans and front office always thinks that the future don't matter because we have to try and win now. Well, at some point the future becomes the present. Right now was the future back during the melo trade and look how awesome that turned out to be. We are without a draft pick that was close to be top 3 at multiple points during the season. Not to mention this will be the best draft since Lebrons draft. Until we stop putting off the future like it is some fantasy you read in a fairy tale we will forever be the laughing stock of the league. |
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Dagger
Posts: 22065 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 4/12/2012 Member: #4184 |
1/28/2014 2:09 PM
Clean wrote:Are we seriously talking about giving up Tim or Shump plus a 1st for a player who can leave in 2 to 3 months? We Knick fans are like dogs getting distracted by the next shiny thing. In this case is it the same shiny thing we have seen before. My stance has not changed one bit. I am done giving up unprotected picks for free. Do I think Lowry is worth a protected 1st yes. Do I think he is worth a protected 1st when he can leave in 2 to 3 months? Hell no! The way some talk about Lowry it's like we're trying to trade for a HOF PG worth 4 first round picks. Crazy... |
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knicks1248
Posts: 42059 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 2/3/2004 Member: #582 |
1/28/2014 2:11 PM
Clean wrote:Are we seriously talking about giving up Tim or Shump plus a 1st for a player who can leave in 2 to 3 months? We Knick fans are like dogs getting distracted by the next shiny thing. In this case is it the same shiny thing we have seen before. My stance has not changed one bit. I am done giving up unprotected picks for free. Do I think Lowry is worth a protected 1st yes. Do I think he is worth a protected 1st when he can leave in 2 to 3 months? Hell no! The good thing is dolan and mills agreed to not to include draft picks, but giving up shump and felton is still a lot for lowery who IMO is worth felton and a 2nd rounder ES
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djsunyc
Posts: 44929 Alba Posts: 42 Joined: 1/16/2004 Member: #536 |
1/28/2014 2:13 PM
playa2 wrote:djsunyc wrote:playa2 wrote:Toronto is fooling you guys,the Raptors were and still are a very CHEAPorganization. They milk their good players for as long as possible until they give them up. I will be shocked if they sign Lowery long term or he decides to stay there because of their reputation with other NBA STARS. that wasn't the point of your post. you said the team was cheap - they are not cheap. inability to attract stars is correct but they will spend money - it's not from a lack of trying to get stars. and...the best FA available in 2009 was hedo and we signed him. but then again, how many other franchises have signed big time NBA ballers? |
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djsunyc
Posts: 44929 Alba Posts: 42 Joined: 1/16/2004 Member: #536 |
1/28/2014 2:14 PM LAST EDITED: 1/28/2014 2:17 PM
BigRedDog wrote:djsunyc wrote:ah yes, tim haradway junior...the new landry fields. or the old iman shumpert? maybe the new frank williams? landry fields in his rookie season was 10X the player thj is now. my point is that he's just the flavor of the month and fanbases always overrate their own young players. no player should be deemed "untouchable". and you think melo is gonna hang around and wait for a guy like thj to develop into a player melo needs now to win? ask melo today - who do you want, a rookie and watch him develop for 3 years or a pg that plays both ends of the court in his prime right now? you want players in their prime right now to coincide with melo's prime. |