Uptown wrote:dk7th wrote:Uptown wrote:dk7th wrote:Uptown wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:misterearl wrote:Think of what it felt like to allow Lin to walk for zero compensationAnd multiply that by two
I was gonna say divide it by 2! Lin was an exciting kid with a whole career ahead of him and our owner wasn't willing to pay him $25 mil
Letting Melo walk could mean Dolan is no longer starphucking.
Lin: 13 pts and 44% fg last year and 13 pts and 46% fg. I see what you mean, Lin leaving definitely hurts more than a player who lead us to 54 wins last, and put up 29 pts and 26 pts these last two years...
Oh, I forgot, most around here value potential more thn actual production....
amazing the stats you cling to to support this career loser. fg% is hopelessly outdates except for big men. he remains an inefficient volume shooter who destroys team cohesion and is a sub-par defender.
lin has a 59%TS this season as an orchestrator and close to a 1:1 ratio of usage to assist rate. here in new york his floor impact was undeniable until he ran out of gas and got hurt. now he is fitting in just fine with his new team, 28-15 and in the playoff hunt, likely as a top 6 seed.
Should have known if I throw a number on the ground, the non-basketball playing stat geeks come'a swarming. With your own TWO EYES, are you telling me that Lin is a better player and has a bigger impact on a team than Melo?
Curious, how did you and Bonn determine who were the best players in the 80's before all these geek numbers were available?
playing a ton of basketball to be able to speak about the game the way i do on the one hand, and on the other hand being a fan of statistics and how they help support what i see are not mutually exclusive.
once the 3-point line was introduced the FG% figure became inapplicable to players who started to take the 3-point shot. it's that simple so please try to use it in your evaluation or run the risk of not being taken seriously. you may not like the true shooting percentage figure, which incorporates free throws into 2s and 3s and rewards players who can draw fouls, but that's your loss. try to understand that playing an efficient game only helps the team and playing inefficiently almost always hurts the team. why do you think players like wade and james have been pursuing this goal? why is durant so successful?
lin has a bigger impact on his teammates within contexts that allow for it. melo does not make his teammates better he makes them worse by taking away from cohesion and continuity. clyde was saying this all night as the knicks lost to the sixers.
my hunch is that you see the game as five one on one games. so a player like anthony is appealing to you because that is the way he plays: as though there are five one on one games going on at the same time.
Your hunch is way off....First off, I've been playing bball for over 35 years and have been coaching for 10. I not only watch the game, I study the game...Have boxes of taped games (college BB) in my garage as well as numerous coaching clinic dvds. My comment to you was a little jab that I threw at you, but in all seriousness, its clear that whenever the name Melo comes up, bias interferes with some of your logic because of your disdain for him.
On another note, #'s are there to help and inform, not as an end-all-be-all....I rarely see you break down pure X's and O's.....As far as Lin and his impact, maybe you need to forward this post to McHale and ask him why does Lin and his 59%ts are usually on the bench during 'winning time' in favor of Beverly?
when i use my own to eyes to get a sense of performance i then consult the statistics to see if what i have seen is further illuminated by said stats. i have an analytical mind with everything and basketball is particularly challenging because, unlike baseball, it has such fluidity and dynamism. but the statisticians are getting closer all the time to capturing on paper what the eyes can see. Why do you think so many teams are adopting this approach, adding cameras and stat geeks and what not? it's because the approach is increasingly credible, allowing scouts and others to find players who provide value without being overt about it. again, my so-called bias is dictated by what i see from anthony so far as floor impact and the statistics i utilize illuminate what i see. and his career record in the playoffs further informs my bias. he is overpaid and overrated. it is clear you see the game differently so why bother to use the stats mentioned? i get it.
so far as the breaking down of Xs and Os since i do that all the time, unless there is something beyond fundamentals, pick and rolls, backdoor plays, curls, cuts, zones, etc. etc. that you think i am leaving out. are you talking about designed plays? well don't designed plays utilize picks and cuts and so on? please.
jeremy lin is a good orchestrator who is also a good scorer. things were never going to work well with him and harden for obvious reasons. and it does not help that lin is not a great defender. so it is appropriate for him to come off the bench, not as a demotion but because it means a deeper bench. (the knicks should have done the same thing with melo and stat, but injuries to stat have precluded this being an issue for the most part. that siad this another reason the knicks should not have brought melo here-- too much overlap.) moreover, beverly is a better defender while harden is not good, so you need someone on the perimeter to defend, especially at the ends of games when getting stops is paramount.
knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
