playa2 wrote:from marc berman:
Carmelo Anthony, rejected emphatically again by center Roy Hibbert, called the rout “embarrassing’’ and then called out Mike Woodson for not making any adjustments to counteract the Indiana onslaught.

Anthony didn’t understand how it got away so quickly as Pacers coach Frank Vogel did all the right things after the opening period. Woodson, for his part, called it “a total team disaster.’’

“They made adjustments the way they played the pick-and-roll, the way they packed the paint and stayed with our 3-point shooters,’’ Anthony said. “They made that adjustment. We didn’t make the adjustment back to it.’’

It amazes me that people can't see what our real problem is.

As a head coach you evaluate your players on what they do well and protect them from doing things they aren't good at.

When a coach out coaches you where is your pride to put the players in the best position to win games.

Lionel Hollins plz come to NY!

It amazes me that this team is playing near the level the statistical projections indicated and people are so surprised

fishmike wrote:

playa2 wrote:Bonn it's obvious from last yrs playoffs and this yr, he has no strategy.

Mike Woodson isn't an innovator.

the last guy we had who was innovative you called gimmicky and couldnt wait to have him gone. Now we have the defensive guy everyone covets and he's no better then the guys who have been here prior. zzzzzzzzzzz

I know that when you say defensive guy, you aren't referring to Woodson. Who, in his three years in NY, and his six years in ATL has he stopped? What defensive philosophy can you recall? 'Cause I haven't seen anything along the lines of defense that stands out yet

Sangfroid wrote:

fishmike wrote:

playa2 wrote:Bonn it's obvious from last yrs playoffs and this yr, he has no strategy.

Mike Woodson isn't an innovator.

the last guy we had who was innovative you called gimmicky and couldnt wait to have him gone. Now we have the defensive guy everyone covets and he's no better then the guys who have been here prior. zzzzzzzzzzz

I know that when you say defensive guy, you aren't referring to Woodson. Who, in his three years in NY, and his six years in ATL has he stopped? What defensive philosophy can you recall? 'Cause I haven't seen anything along the lines of defense that stands out yet

wasn't he bought in as MDA's "defensive coordinater"?

When MDA left, didn't he state "defensive accountability"?

Thibs still had Noah, Booze, and Deng who together made a nice run last year. Other than that Thibs had MVP rose and I don't think when you have those three, plus in prime MVP rose with a deeeeeeeep bench its easy to see why Thibs had a good run. Not taking anything away.

Personally I thought Woodson coached his ass off last year! Took the leagues oldest roster of all time to 54 wins. I thought coaching JR smith to SMOTY was impressive and he had the leagues leading scorer! He defied Charles Barkley!

THis year Charles said team would be lucky to win 37 games and the homers screamed of his hate!!!!!

gunsnewing wrote:The problem is Woodson could stand their with a blank state and not do. Anything because he had waders like Kidd and some high IQ vets. Now Woodson is fully exposed

That's his COY stare.

knicks1248 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

playa2 wrote:Bonn it's obvious from last yrs playoffs and this yr, he has no strategy.

Mike Woodson isn't an innovator.

the last guy we had who was innovative you called gimmicky and couldnt wait to have him gone. Now we have the defensive guy everyone covets and he's no better then the guys who have been here prior. zzzzzzzzzzz

people use to say MDA's roster barely had any defensive players, which is why they play no defense( or very little of it)

Whats Woodsons excuse?

Woodson came on and made them accountable for defense. They finished 18-8 to make the playoffs and Melo was player of the month.

Last year they won 54 games.

If you must play the lame blame game then lay it on Injury.

1. Stat is still part of the team. Coaches coach what is given to them.
2. Bargs got TysonPnmonia over the summer. He started slow.
3. Felton got injured
4. Priggy was injured
5. Metta slowed by injury
6. Kmart slowed by injury
7. FluTyson reverts to career norm
8. Smith suspended 5 games, knee is not right, his head is not right
9. Chris Smith lockerroom distraction
10.loss of Kidd and Rashweeds lockeroom leadership. Melo and JR were asked to step up.

This is what Woodson has to deal with. Some teams over come injury better than others. SOme teams have rosters constructed in a manner than can overcome these issues.

Does this mean woodson is a great great man? No. But it don't make cause to fire him. These issues don't go away.

dude we had, no amare, no shump, no kmart, we still started the season 18 5 last season, so why are the injuries this season a problem

Kidd played out of his mind!!!!! JR played at a much higher level!!!! Rasheed gave us some quality time before he went down!!!Tyson was also very healthy to start the year!!

We don't have that kind of depth this year. Not even close. No Novak, no Cope, Shump is lacking his mojo. Timmy Jr is a positive!

Nalod wrote:There is an underlying stench on this years team. Not sure we know whats really going on.

djsunyc already said what it is : melo opened his piehole and stated he wanted to test free agency and right before the start of the season too.

what was said cannot be unsaid. great leadership moment from melo. yay melo

smith is also a cancer. without sheed and thomas and kidd to keep order woodson is simply overwhelmed.

with no vets around the team had to implode... which it pretty much has.

implosion means ending up at around 37 wins, give or take a few games.

dk7th wrote:

Nalod wrote:There is an underlying stench on this years team. Not sure we know whats really going on.

djsunyc already said what it is : melo opened his piehole and stated he wanted to test free agency and right before the start of the season too.

what was said cannot be unsaid. great leadership moment from melo. yay melo

smith is also a cancer. without sheed and thomas and kidd to keep order woodson is simply overwhelmed.

with no vets around the team had to implode... which it pretty much has.

implosion means ending up at around 37 wins, give or take a few games.

Nalod wrote:

Vmart wrote:Indy plays in a no pressure town with one media outlet.

Does the media play defense? Does the Media hit the open shot? Does the media rebound?

Last year the team wins 54, not the media.

Im not buying into the media as the reason our team does not perform.

The Media don't roll the blunts for JR, the Media does not trade picks, the Media does not plan for the future!

The Media does not Hire and Fire GM's and coaches at a higher rate then other teams.

Successful teams get media too! Want to chage the media? Maybe not running the franchise like its a joke is a good start.

Your right media don't play the defense. The Media got nothing to do with it.

playa2 wrote:Woody needs to tell Melo,"STOP TRYING TO DUNK ON HIBBERT" it gives the Pacers such a boost when Hibbert blocks his dunk successfully.

I don't understand why Melo tries to dunk on teams with a bonifide center unless the center is defending from the foul line.

Major momentum changer just like the playoff game.