Bonn1997 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

tkf wrote: we for the most part are playing up to our talent.. hence the record...

Which had me thinking... NBA players who have never had a losing season? Apropos to talent impacting record, this is Melo's 12th year in the NBA and he's never had a losing season in the first 11 years. How many guys were drafted and never had a losing season after 10 years?

Shaq, MJ, Hakeem had a .500 year but never a losing one in his first ten
Kobe had at least one losing season...
Stockton/Malone?
Gary Payton?
Has Dwight had a losing season?

UKers chime in... I think that would be a cool list

Bizarre question. It's an interesting topic but it has nothing to do with TKF's comment. Nowhere in the quote you provided did he say that a good way to evaluate an individual player is to look at the record of the 12 man team. Normally "our talent" would mean the talent of the entire roster.

exactly bonn.. but hey, I guess it is that slow around here, so people played along I guess...

fishmike wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

tkf wrote: we for the most part are playing up to our talent.. hence the record...

Which had me thinking... NBA players who have never had a losing season? Apropos to talent impacting record, this is Melo's 12th year in the NBA and he's never had a losing season in the first 11 years. How many guys were drafted and never had a losing season after 10 years?

Shaq, MJ, Hakeem had a .500 year but never a losing one in his first ten
Kobe had at least one losing season...
Stockton/Malone?
Gary Payton?
Has Dwight had a losing season?

UKers chime in... I think that would be a cool list

Bizarre question. It's an interesting topic but it has nothing to do with TKF's comment. Nowhere in the quote you provided did he say that a good way to evaluate an individual player is to look at the record of the 12 man team. Normally "our talent" would mean the talent of the entire roster.

whats bizaare? TFK's comment says we are what we are.. that the talent is limited thus the record. So lets look at guys who never lose, surely they are either supremely talented (as the short list suggests) or they have only had the fortune of playing on very good teams from day one. If its so bizaare why did you post to the thread 5+ times?

Thats bizaare!

It's bizarre that your magnificent eyeball test doesn't see that looking at the record of a 12 man team isn't the best way to evaluate any one player.