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I still think woody is a brick head, but he did so much better against the spurs
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1/6/2014  6:15 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/6/2014  6:22 PM
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Nalod wrote:The brickhead is coaching his arse off with Beno as his starting PG!!! He got Iman back on track even while.
He is having to deal with JR smith as a living sitcom trying to reincarnate his inner "nate"!

They stayed in Dallas to practice which tells me there is a problem.


I'm no fan of Woodson and can admit that this team has been playing some spirited ball during that Texas trip. I also think he has to have something to do with it so I give him credit there. However, what does he have to do with how Shumps playing? I'm not saying he has nothing to do with it, rather I'm asking what have you seen that suggests Woodson is that one that got him back on track?

Also, Woodson can easily sit JR down so I don't know where he gets a pass with that.

JR helped him win 54 games last year..If Knicks are to take the next step, It won't be without JR and Shump..


So that means JR gets to stay in games no matter how badly hes playing?

No, it means he will be patient with JR the way he was patient with Shump..If that what it takes for this team to win going forward, do you have a problem with that?


You're saying that as if we won 2 of the last 3 because Woodson is "patient" with JR. Why does Woodson get to be patient with some players and not others? Him and Shump were getting into on the bunch during Shumps struggles. Woodson doesn't defend Shump at all with that Paul George foul. Woodson throws Beno under the bus with the JR shot against Houston. He will let JR finish every game no matter how poorly he's playing.

And I have to say this because I've seen how you operate here, meaning the second JR hits a big shot or has a good game, you're gonna quote one of my posts and say something like "didn't you want JR on the bench during crunch time?". So let me say as long as JR is on this team, I'm rooting for him to do well because he helps the team. However, if he's not playing well, which he hasn't been, sit him. That rule applies to everyone but him and it's becoming more and more obvious.

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1/6/2014  6:20 PM
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holfresh wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
holfresh wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
Nalod wrote:The brickhead is coaching his arse off with Beno as his starting PG!!! He got Iman back on track even while.
He is having to deal with JR smith as a living sitcom trying to reincarnate his inner "nate"!

They stayed in Dallas to practice which tells me there is a problem.


I'm no fan of Woodson and can admit that this team has been playing some spirited ball during that Texas trip. I also think he has to have something to do with it so I give him credit there. However, what does he have to do with how Shumps playing? I'm not saying he has nothing to do with it, rather I'm asking what have you seen that suggests Woodson is that one that got him back on track?

Also, Woodson can easily sit JR down so I don't know where he gets a pass with that.

JR helped him win 54 games last year..If Knicks are to take the next step, It won't be without JR and Shump..


So that means JR gets to stay in games no matter how badly hes playing?

No, it means he will be patient with JR the way he was patient with Shump..If that what it takes for this team to win going forward, do you have a problem with that?


You're saying that as if we won 2 of the last 3 because Woodson is "patient" with JR. Why does Woodson get to be patient with some players and not others? Him and Shump were getting into on the bunch during Shumps struggles. Woodson doesn't defend Shump at all with that Paul George foul. Woodson throws Beno under the bus with the JR shot against Houston. He will let JR finish every game no matter how poorly he's playing.

And I have to say this because I've seen how you operate here, meaningtThe second JR hits a big shot or has a good game, you're gonna quote one of my posts and say something like "didn't you want JR on the bench during crunch time?". So let me say as long as JR is on this team, I'm rooting for him to do well because he helps the team. However, if he's not playing well, which he hasn't been, sit him. That rule applies to everyone but him and it's becoming more and more obvious.

Also, at some point your conduct should impact your playing time. JR has been suspended for a drug violation, fined for stuff he put on twitter, has posted stuff on instagram that could get the franchise in trouble, tried to sabotage his coach and team after he was spoken to about his shot selection, admitted to not even knowing the score with 17 seconds left in a tie game, and untied a guys shoes during a game. That is in a little over two months. Quite a run for a guy that has looked bad on the court but continues to get minutes.
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1/6/2014  6:27 PM
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holfresh wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
holfresh wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
Nalod wrote:The brickhead is coaching his arse off with Beno as his starting PG!!! He got Iman back on track even while.
He is having to deal with JR smith as a living sitcom trying to reincarnate his inner "nate"!

They stayed in Dallas to practice which tells me there is a problem.


I'm no fan of Woodson and can admit that this team has been playing some spirited ball during that Texas trip. I also think he has to have something to do with it so I give him credit there. However, what does he have to do with how Shumps playing? I'm not saying he has nothing to do with it, rather I'm asking what have you seen that suggests Woodson is that one that got him back on track?

Also, Woodson can easily sit JR down so I don't know where he gets a pass with that.

JR helped him win 54 games last year..If Knicks are to take the next step, It won't be without JR and Shump..


So that means JR gets to stay in games no matter how badly hes playing?

No, it means he will be patient with JR the way he was patient with Shump..If that what it takes for this team to win going forward, do you have a problem with that?


You're saying that as if we won 2 of the last 3 because Woodson is "patient" with JR. Why does Woodson get to be patient with some players and not others? Him and Shump were getting into on the bunch during Shumps struggles. Woodson doesn't defend Shump at all with that Paul George foul. Woodson throws Beno under the bus with the JR shot against Houston. He will let JR finish every game no matter how poorly he's playing.

And I have to say this because I've seen how you operate here, meaningtThe second JR hits a big shot or has a good game, you're gonna quote one of my posts and say something like "didn't you want JR on the bench during crunch time?". So let me say as long as JR is on this team, I'm rooting for him to do well because he helps the team. However, if he's not playing well, which he hasn't been, sit him. That rule applies to everyone but him and it's becoming more and more obvious.

Also, at some point your conduct should impact your playing time. JR has been suspended for a drug violation, fined for stuff he put on twitter, has posted stuff on instagram that could get the franchise in trouble, tried to sabotage his coach and team after he was spoken to about his shot selection, admitted to not even knowing the score with 17 seconds left in a tie game, and untied a guys shoes during a game. That is in a little over two months. Quite a run for a guy that has looked bad on the court but continues to get minutes.

Thank you. I think you said it better than I did. It all comes down to accountability which Woodson actually did a good job with when he first took over. Thats faded a little bit as the games went by.
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1/6/2014  6:31 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/6/2014  6:32 PM
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Q. teamball - However, what does he have to do with how Shumps playing?

A. Head Coaches have absolutely nothing to do with how players are playing. Everyone knows that.

Q. teamball - I'm asking what have you seen that suggests Woodson is that one that got him back on track?

A. Same thing that is seen when a player is performing poorly. Unless you have access to film sessions, team charters, huddles during games, airport lounge conversations, player meetings in the coaches office or closed practices in Greenburgh. (yes, we talking bout practice)

Absolutely nothing.

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1/6/2014  6:31 PM
TeamBall wrote:
holfresh wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
holfresh wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
Nalod wrote:The brickhead is coaching his arse off with Beno as his starting PG!!! He got Iman back on track even while.
He is having to deal with JR smith as a living sitcom trying to reincarnate his inner "nate"!

They stayed in Dallas to practice which tells me there is a problem.


I'm no fan of Woodson and can admit that this team has been playing some spirited ball during that Texas trip. I also think he has to have something to do with it so I give him credit there. However, what does he have to do with how Shumps playing? I'm not saying he has nothing to do with it, rather I'm asking what have you seen that suggests Woodson is that one that got him back on track?

Also, Woodson can easily sit JR down so I don't know where he gets a pass with that.

JR helped him win 54 games last year..If Knicks are to take the next step, It won't be without JR and Shump..


So that means JR gets to stay in games no matter how badly hes playing?

No, it means he will be patient with JR the way he was patient with Shump..If that what it takes for this team to win going forward, do you have a problem with that?


You're saying that as if we won 2 of the last 3 because Woodson is "patient" with JR. Why does Woodson get to be patient with some players and not others? Him and Shump were getting into on the bunch during Shumps struggles. Woodson doesn't defend Shump at all with that Paul George foul. Woodson throws Beno under the bus with the JR shot against Houston. He will let JR finish every game no matter how poorly he's playing.

And I have to say this because I've seen how you operate here, meaning the second JR hits a big shot or has a good game, you're gonna quote one of my posts and say something like "didn't you want JR on the bench during crunch time?". So let me say as long as JR is on this team, I'm rooting for him to do well because he helps the team. However, if he's not playing well, which he hasn't been, sit him. That rule applies to everyone but him and it's becoming more and more obvious.

That is not true..Shump has been god awful all season, yet he was logging close to 30 mins a game...JR was the second best player on the team last year...What other player would you say that Woodson wasn't patient with..Hasn't Beno mouth off about Woodson yet he is still logging big minutes?? and he sucks...Which player hasn't Woodson been patient with??

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Outside of ten minutes a day, the media does not have access to the Knicks ... how does someone who watches television have any clue about what a coach is doing?

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1/6/2014  6:38 PM
holfresh wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
holfresh wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
holfresh wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
Nalod wrote:The brickhead is coaching his arse off with Beno as his starting PG!!! He got Iman back on track even while.
He is having to deal with JR smith as a living sitcom trying to reincarnate his inner "nate"!

They stayed in Dallas to practice which tells me there is a problem.


I'm no fan of Woodson and can admit that this team has been playing some spirited ball during that Texas trip. I also think he has to have something to do with it so I give him credit there. However, what does he have to do with how Shumps playing? I'm not saying he has nothing to do with it, rather I'm asking what have you seen that suggests Woodson is that one that got him back on track?

Also, Woodson can easily sit JR down so I don't know where he gets a pass with that.

JR helped him win 54 games last year..If Knicks are to take the next step, It won't be without JR and Shump..


So that means JR gets to stay in games no matter how badly hes playing?

No, it means he will be patient with JR the way he was patient with Shump..If that what it takes for this team to win going forward, do you have a problem with that?


You're saying that as if we won 2 of the last 3 because Woodson is "patient" with JR. Why does Woodson get to be patient with some players and not others? Him and Shump were getting into on the bunch during Shumps struggles. Woodson doesn't defend Shump at all with that Paul George foul. Woodson throws Beno under the bus with the JR shot against Houston. He will let JR finish every game no matter how poorly he's playing.

And I have to say this because I've seen how you operate here, meaning the second JR hits a big shot or has a good game, you're gonna quote one of my posts and say something like "didn't you want JR on the bench during crunch time?". So let me say as long as JR is on this team, I'm rooting for him to do well because he helps the team. However, if he's not playing well, which he hasn't been, sit him. That rule applies to everyone but him and it's becoming more and more obvious.

That is not true..Shump has been god awful all season, yet he was logging close to 30 mins a game...JR was the second best player on the team last year...What other player would you say that Woodson wasn't patient with..Hasn't Beno mouth off about Woodson yet he is still logging big minutes?? and he sucks...Which player hasn't Woodson been patient with??


Beno and Murry are our only PGs. As soon as one of Felton or Prigs gets healthy, I highly doubt Beno sees the floor outside of garbage time.

As for Shump, during the games in which he was struggling, he would get a quick hook for JR usually. He sometimes wouldn't even finish the games. This was justified due to his bad play. JR though? Not the same.

I'm really not getting your hanging your hat on these 54 games with regards to JR this season. Please correct me if I'm wrong but it sounds like you're saying JR should get special treatment because of what he did last year?

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1/6/2014  6:38 PM
misterearl wrote:Outside of ten minutes a day, the media does not have access to the Knicks ... how does someone who watches television have any clue about what a coach is doing?

Help me out here lipreaders.


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1/6/2014  6:38 PM
misterearl wrote:No One Knows What The Answer Man Does Behind Closed Doors

Q. teamball - However, what does he have to do with how Shumps playing?

A. Head Coaches have absolutely nothing to do with how players are playing. Everyone knows that.

Q. teamball - I'm asking what have you seen that suggests Woodson is that one that got him back on track?

A. Same thing that is seen when a player is performing poorly. Unless you have access to film sessions, team charters, huddles during games, airport lounge conversations, player meetings in the coaches office or closed practices in Greenburgh. (yes, we talking bout practice)

Absolutely nothing.


Thats why I asked the question...
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1/6/2014  6:41 PM
misterearl wrote:Outside of ten minutes a day, the media does not have access to the Knicks ... how does someone who watches television have any clue about what a coach is doing?

Help me out here lipreaders.


When did I claim to know what was going on in the huddle or behind closed doors? I only talked about what happened on the court.
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1/6/2014  6:54 PM
TeamBall wrote:
holfresh wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
holfresh wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
holfresh wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
Nalod wrote:The brickhead is coaching his arse off with Beno as his starting PG!!! He got Iman back on track even while.
He is having to deal with JR smith as a living sitcom trying to reincarnate his inner "nate"!

They stayed in Dallas to practice which tells me there is a problem.


I'm no fan of Woodson and can admit that this team has been playing some spirited ball during that Texas trip. I also think he has to have something to do with it so I give him credit there. However, what does he have to do with how Shumps playing? I'm not saying he has nothing to do with it, rather I'm asking what have you seen that suggests Woodson is that one that got him back on track?

Also, Woodson can easily sit JR down so I don't know where he gets a pass with that.

JR helped him win 54 games last year..If Knicks are to take the next step, It won't be without JR and Shump..


So that means JR gets to stay in games no matter how badly hes playing?

No, it means he will be patient with JR the way he was patient with Shump..If that what it takes for this team to win going forward, do you have a problem with that?


You're saying that as if we won 2 of the last 3 because Woodson is "patient" with JR. Why does Woodson get to be patient with some players and not others? Him and Shump were getting into on the bunch during Shumps struggles. Woodson doesn't defend Shump at all with that Paul George foul. Woodson throws Beno under the bus with the JR shot against Houston. He will let JR finish every game no matter how poorly he's playing.

And I have to say this because I've seen how you operate here, meaning the second JR hits a big shot or has a good game, you're gonna quote one of my posts and say something like "didn't you want JR on the bench during crunch time?". So let me say as long as JR is on this team, I'm rooting for him to do well because he helps the team. However, if he's not playing well, which he hasn't been, sit him. That rule applies to everyone but him and it's becoming more and more obvious.

That is not true..Shump has been god awful all season, yet he was logging close to 30 mins a game...JR was the second best player on the team last year...What other player would you say that Woodson wasn't patient with..Hasn't Beno mouth off about Woodson yet he is still logging big minutes?? and he sucks...Which player hasn't Woodson been patient with??


Beno and Murry are our only PGs. As soon as one of Felton or Prigs gets healthy, I highly doubt Beno sees the floor outside of garbage time.

As for Shump, during the games in which he was struggling, he would get a quick hook for JR usually. He sometimes wouldn't even finish the games. This was justified due to his bad play. JR though? Not the same.

I'm really not getting your hanging your hat on these 54 games with regards to JR this season. Please correct me if I'm wrong but it sounds like you're saying JR should get special treatment because of what he did last year?

No, I think JR should get the latitude he needs to get right because we saw what his good play means to the team...I think u guys look at it incorrectly..U want JR to be punished for whatever reason..I think the coach and myself wants JR to get right without damaging overall improved play of the team..

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1/6/2014  7:05 PM
holfresh wrote:
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holfresh wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
holfresh wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
holfresh wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
Nalod wrote:The brickhead is coaching his arse off with Beno as his starting PG!!! He got Iman back on track even while.
He is having to deal with JR smith as a living sitcom trying to reincarnate his inner "nate"!

They stayed in Dallas to practice which tells me there is a problem.


I'm no fan of Woodson and can admit that this team has been playing some spirited ball during that Texas trip. I also think he has to have something to do with it so I give him credit there. However, what does he have to do with how Shumps playing? I'm not saying he has nothing to do with it, rather I'm asking what have you seen that suggests Woodson is that one that got him back on track?

Also, Woodson can easily sit JR down so I don't know where he gets a pass with that.

JR helped him win 54 games last year..If Knicks are to take the next step, It won't be without JR and Shump..


So that means JR gets to stay in games no matter how badly hes playing?

No, it means he will be patient with JR the way he was patient with Shump..If that what it takes for this team to win going forward, do you have a problem with that?


You're saying that as if we won 2 of the last 3 because Woodson is "patient" with JR. Why does Woodson get to be patient with some players and not others? Him and Shump were getting into on the bunch during Shumps struggles. Woodson doesn't defend Shump at all with that Paul George foul. Woodson throws Beno under the bus with the JR shot against Houston. He will let JR finish every game no matter how poorly he's playing.

And I have to say this because I've seen how you operate here, meaning the second JR hits a big shot or has a good game, you're gonna quote one of my posts and say something like "didn't you want JR on the bench during crunch time?". So let me say as long as JR is on this team, I'm rooting for him to do well because he helps the team. However, if he's not playing well, which he hasn't been, sit him. That rule applies to everyone but him and it's becoming more and more obvious.

That is not true..Shump has been god awful all season, yet he was logging close to 30 mins a game...JR was the second best player on the team last year...What other player would you say that Woodson wasn't patient with..Hasn't Beno mouth off about Woodson yet he is still logging big minutes?? and he sucks...Which player hasn't Woodson been patient with??


Beno and Murry are our only PGs. As soon as one of Felton or Prigs gets healthy, I highly doubt Beno sees the floor outside of garbage time.

As for Shump, during the games in which he was struggling, he would get a quick hook for JR usually. He sometimes wouldn't even finish the games. This was justified due to his bad play. JR though? Not the same.

I'm really not getting your hanging your hat on these 54 games with regards to JR this season. Please correct me if I'm wrong but it sounds like you're saying JR should get special treatment because of what he did last year?

No, I think JR should get the latitude he needs to get right because we saw what his good play means to the team...I think u guys look at it incorrectly..U want JR to be punished for whatever reason..I think the coach and myself wants JR to get right without damaging overall improved play of the team..


I wouldn't call it punishment. I think sitting someone when they're playing poorly is a pretty common thing around league. I think you may be looking at my comments incorrectly. I don't want anything done that would hurt the team.
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1/6/2014  8:38 PM
Whatever! Woody was his own worst enemy this season. There's no excusing that. It remains to be seen just how much help Woody will be when they need him down the line. I think he's been doing better recently although he still makes some poor decisions. Reading the article about how Melo is the source of the recent change in style hasn't helped Woody's case much either.

If it was not something in the Texas water, then it was something about Carmelo Anthony returning to the Knicks and making everyone around him better.
Credit the Knicks’ surge to Anthony coming back from a sprained left ankle in Texas with new ideas he shared with players and coaching staff.
Anthony revealed he had an epiphany during his three-game injury absence, noticing some details on why the team was struggling. And it started playing out during the Knicks’ successful 2-1 Texas Triangle trip.
Anthony wouldn’t reveal everything he told Mike Woodson and the team, but said one message was they needed to play with more “patience’’ and needed to have a different philosophy late in games, that they can be the hero, too, and make the big shot.
Because teams are swarming him more than ever late in games, Anthony said he will be looking for his mates in those clutch times.
It’s no coincidence Iman Shumpert’s meteoric rise in Texas occurred just as Anthony returned. Shumpert said Melo’s prodding has worked and he shot 14 of 16 on 3-pointers in San Antonio and Houston, and won the game with two big late buckets in Dallas on Sunday.
Anthony is probably closer to Shumpert, in the middle of a season-long malaise, than anyone on the team.
“For everyone on the court, the thing is just be patient,’’ Anthony said. “When that time comes at the end of the game, a lot of things are open. Teams are double- and triple-teaming me. And I told them I’m going to find them. It’s up to you to make the shot, but I’m going to find you.’’
Anthony scored just 19 points in Dallas, but made the pass to a wide-open Shumpert for the game-sealing 3-point bucket with 1:13 left. In Houston, though they lost in the final seconds, Anthony made feeds to Beno Udrih for an open 3-pointer with 23 seconds left (Udrih then passed to a too-anxious-to-shoot J.R. Smith) and dished to a hot Shumpert with 10 seconds left. Though the shots missed, it showed Anthony is serious.
Melo’s leadership was more evident during the trip as he exhorted teammates more than previously seen.
“When you’re searching, trying to find an identity or ways to win, that little stuff helps,’’ Anthony said. “Sometimes guys need to be guided, need to be directed.’’
Anthony said he also noticed the team was too easily frustrated when things went wrong.
“Patience,’’ Anthony said. “That’s one of the biggest things I’ve been talking about. Just be patient. For a lot of guys, it’s going to come to them. Just be patient.’’
The Knicks (11-22) return to face Detroit on Tuesday at the Garden, where they have fared worse than on the road. They better change the trend quick because 11 of the next 14 games are at MSG, including two against Miami. The Knicks own an embarrassing 4-12 Garden record, compared to 7-10 on the road.
Anthony said morbidly last month the team was in “a dark space.’’ No longer.
“I will say that we have gotten out of that place,’’ Anthony said. “You see guys doing things as a team we haven’t been doing all season long. It’s showing on the basketball court at both ends. Guys starting to communicate more, talk more and have fun. That’s the most important thing.’’
If the past six games showed anything, it’s how the Knicks roster is so reliant on Anthony being healthy. Last season, they were 7-8 in his absences. But when Anthony missed three straight games to close out 2013, the Knicks were hopeless — beaten by double digits in all three.
Anthony’s value in Texas didn’t hinge on his point total. His presence made everyone better. Shumpert was left open all night by the Spurs to drill 3-pointers and he darted in for that game-winning tip because the Spurs were mesmerized by Anthony holding the ball.
That’s why the timing of a report the Knicks were discussing internally whether to trade Anthony to the Clippers for Blake Griffin was laughable to team officials.
Anthony was thrilled to have just scored 19 in Dallas and still win handily, with 47 points from the bench — solid outings from Tim Hardaway Jr. and Amar’e Stoudemire and even from fourth-string point guard Tour’e Murry.
“If I could do that every night [score 19 and win], I’d be a happy camper,’’ Anthony said. “For our bench to come in and play the way we’ve been playing during stretch, it’s big-time for us. Now the starters can come back in and sustain the lead.’’
There have been false alarms, but victories in San Antonio and Dallas are stronger evidence of an upturn than back-to-back blowout wins against Eastern dregs Brooklyn and Orlando. And they may have starting point guard Raymond Felton back Tuesday night.
“I just think guys are starting t come together as a ballclub,’’ Woodson said. “I point to injuries as the major problem and us not being able to execute and close out games down the stretch. Six, seven games, if we done the right things, could’ve won those games. That’s behind us.’’
Anthony hopes he’s found a late-game formula — manufactured in Texas.

http://nypost.com/2014/01/06/melos-advice-to-turns-knicks-around-on-texas-trip/

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1) Fine
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2) Five Minutes
If she is getting dressed, this means a half an hour. Five minutes is only five minutes if you have just been given five more minutes to watch the game before helping around the house.

3) Nothing
This is the calm before the storm. This means something, and you should be on your toes. Arguments that begin with nothing usually end in fine.

4) Go Ahead
This is a dare, not permission. Don’t Do It!

5) Loud Sigh
This is actually a word, but is a non-verbal statement often misunderstood by men. A loud sigh means she thinks you are an idiot and wonders why she is wasting her time standing here and arguing with you about nothing. (Refer back to # 3 for the meaning of nothing.)

6) That’s Okay
This is one of the most dangerous statements a women can make to a man. That’s okay means she wants to think long and hard before deciding how and when you will pay for your mistake.

7) Thanks
A woman is thanking you, do not question, or faint. Just say you’re welcome. (I want to add in a clause here – This is true, unless she says ‘Thanks a lot’ – that is PURE sarcasm and she is not thanking you at all. DO NOT say ‘you’re welcome’ . that will bring on a ‘whatever’).

8 ) Whatever
Is a woman’s way of saying F– YOU!

9) Don’t worry about it, I got it
Another dangerous statement, meaning this is something that a woman has told a man to do several times, but is now doing it herself. This will later result in a man asking ‘What’s wrong?’ For the woman’s response refer to #3.

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1/6/2014  9:25 PM
nixluva wrote:Whatever! Woody was his own worst enemy this season. There's no excusing that. It remains to be seen just how much help Woody will be when they need him down the line. I think he's been doing better recently although he still makes some poor decisions. Reading the article about how Melo is the source of the recent change in style hasn't helped Woody's case much either.

If it was not something in the Texas water, then it was something about Carmelo Anthony returning to the Knicks and making everyone around him better.
Credit the Knicks’ surge to Anthony coming back from a sprained left ankle in Texas with new ideas he shared with players and coaching staff.
Anthony revealed he had an epiphany during his three-game injury absence, noticing some details on why the team was struggling. And it started playing out during the Knicks’ successful 2-1 Texas Triangle trip.
Anthony wouldn’t reveal everything he told Mike Woodson and the team, but said one message was they needed to play with more “patience’’ and needed to have a different philosophy late in games, that they can be the hero, too, and make the big shot.
Because teams are swarming him more than ever late in games, Anthony said he will be looking for his mates in those clutch times.
It’s no coincidence Iman Shumpert’s meteoric rise in Texas occurred just as Anthony returned. Shumpert said Melo’s prodding has worked and he shot 14 of 16 on 3-pointers in San Antonio and Houston, and won the game with two big late buckets in Dallas on Sunday.
Anthony is probably closer to Shumpert, in the middle of a season-long malaise, than anyone on the team.
“For everyone on the court, the thing is just be patient,’’ Anthony said. “When that time comes at the end of the game, a lot of things are open. Teams are double- and triple-teaming me. And I told them I’m going to find them. It’s up to you to make the shot, but I’m going to find you.’’
Anthony scored just 19 points in Dallas, but made the pass to a wide-open Shumpert for the game-sealing 3-point bucket with 1:13 left. In Houston, though they lost in the final seconds, Anthony made feeds to Beno Udrih for an open 3-pointer with 23 seconds left (Udrih then passed to a too-anxious-to-shoot J.R. Smith) and dished to a hot Shumpert with 10 seconds left. Though the shots missed, it showed Anthony is serious.
Melo’s leadership was more evident during the trip as he exhorted teammates more than previously seen.
“When you’re searching, trying to find an identity or ways to win, that little stuff helps,’’ Anthony said. “Sometimes guys need to be guided, need to be directed.’’
Anthony said he also noticed the team was too easily frustrated when things went wrong.
“Patience,’’ Anthony said. “That’s one of the biggest things I’ve been talking about. Just be patient. For a lot of guys, it’s going to come to them. Just be patient.’’
The Knicks (11-22) return to face Detroit on Tuesday at the Garden, where they have fared worse than on the road. They better change the trend quick because 11 of the next 14 games are at MSG, including two against Miami. The Knicks own an embarrassing 4-12 Garden record, compared to 7-10 on the road.
Anthony said morbidly last month the team was in “a dark space.’’ No longer.
“I will say that we have gotten out of that place,’’ Anthony said. “You see guys doing things as a team we haven’t been doing all season long. It’s showing on the basketball court at both ends. Guys starting to communicate more, talk more and have fun. That’s the most important thing.’’
If the past six games showed anything, it’s how the Knicks roster is so reliant on Anthony being healthy. Last season, they were 7-8 in his absences. But when Anthony missed three straight games to close out 2013, the Knicks were hopeless — beaten by double digits in all three.
Anthony’s value in Texas didn’t hinge on his point total. His presence made everyone better. Shumpert was left open all night by the Spurs to drill 3-pointers and he darted in for that game-winning tip because the Spurs were mesmerized by Anthony holding the ball.
That’s why the timing of a report the Knicks were discussing internally whether to trade Anthony to the Clippers for Blake Griffin was laughable to team officials.
Anthony was thrilled to have just scored 19 in Dallas and still win handily, with 47 points from the bench — solid outings from Tim Hardaway Jr. and Amar’e Stoudemire and even from fourth-string point guard Tour’e Murry.
“If I could do that every night [score 19 and win], I’d be a happy camper,’’ Anthony said. “For our bench to come in and play the way we’ve been playing during stretch, it’s big-time for us. Now the starters can come back in and sustain the lead.’’
There have been false alarms, but victories in San Antonio and Dallas are stronger evidence of an upturn than back-to-back blowout wins against Eastern dregs Brooklyn and Orlando. And they may have starting point guard Raymond Felton back Tuesday night.
“I just think guys are starting t come together as a ballclub,’’ Woodson said. “I point to injuries as the major problem and us not being able to execute and close out games down the stretch. Six, seven games, if we done the right things, could’ve won those games. That’s behind us.’’
Anthony hopes he’s found a late-game formula — manufactured in Texas.

http://nypost.com/2014/01/06/melos-advice-to-turns-knicks-around-on-texas-trip/

I really don't care how they got there but I am glad the Knicks are playing the way they are now. If Anthony is being credited with the turn around then maybe he has become a leader. Usually guys are just leaders. Also, the Knicks played this way last year and Woodson was the coach. I think the long break, working with the coaching staff and the removal of Chris Smith had a lot to do with why things are going better now.
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1/6/2014  9:35 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/6/2014  9:37 PM
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Nalod wrote:The brickhead is coaching his arse off with Beno as his starting PG!!! He got Iman back on track even while.
He is having to deal with JR smith as a living sitcom trying to reincarnate his inner "nate"!

They stayed in Dallas to practice which tells me there is a problem.


I'm no fan of Woodson and can admit that this team has been playing some spirited ball during that Texas trip. I also think he has to have something to do with it so I give him credit there. However, what does he have to do with how Shumps playing? I'm not saying he has nothing to do with it, rather I'm asking what have you seen that suggests Woodson is that one that got him back on track?

Also, Woodson can easily sit JR down so I don't know where he gets a pass with that.

JR helped him win 54 games last year..If Knicks are to take the next step, It won't be without JR and Shump..


So that means JR gets to stay in games no matter how badly hes playing?

No, it means he will be patient with JR the way he was patient with Shump..If that what it takes for this team to win going forward, do you have a problem with that?


You're saying that as if we won 2 of the last 3 because Woodson is "patient" with JR. Why does Woodson get to be patient with some players and not others? Him and Shump were getting into on the bunch during Shumps struggles. Woodson doesn't defend Shump at all with that Paul George foul. Woodson throws Beno under the bus with the JR shot against Houston. He will let JR finish every game no matter how poorly he's playing.

And I have to say this because I've seen how you operate here, meaning the second JR hits a big shot or has a good game, you're gonna quote one of my posts and say something like "didn't you want JR on the bench during crunch time?". So let me say as long as JR is on this team, I'm rooting for him to do well because he helps the team. However, if he's not playing well, which he hasn't been, sit him. That rule applies to everyone but him and it's becoming more and more obvious.

That is not true..Shump has been god awful all season, yet he was logging close to 30 mins a game...JR was the second best player on the team last year...What other player would you say that Woodson wasn't patient with..Hasn't Beno mouth off about Woodson yet he is still logging big minutes?? and he sucks...Which player hasn't Woodson been patient with??


Beno and Murry are our only PGs. As soon as one of Felton or Prigs gets healthy, I highly doubt Beno sees the floor outside of garbage time.

As for Shump, during the games in which he was struggling, he would get a quick hook for JR usually. He sometimes wouldn't even finish the games. This was justified due to his bad play. JR though? Not the same.

I'm really not getting your hanging your hat on these 54 games with regards to JR this season. Please correct me if I'm wrong but it sounds like you're saying JR should get special treatment because of what he did last year?

No, I think JR should get the latitude he needs to get right because we saw what his good play means to the team...I think u guys look at it incorrectly..U want JR to be punished for whatever reason..I think the coach and myself wants JR to get right without damaging overall improved play of the team..

They were not listening to anything woodson had to say, you see it on TV, you here it in the the post game conferences, and if your close enough at the game (which i was fortunate) you here it at the game.

Woodson needs to coach melo more then any player on this team, because once you get him doing the right thing, Melo becomes more of a leader, and the effect trikels down.


Anthony wouldn’t reveal everything he told Mike Woodson and the team, but said one message was they needed to play with more “patience’’ and needed to have a different philosophy late in games, that they can be the hero, too, and make the big shot.
Because teams are swarming him more than ever late in games, Anthony said he will be looking for his mates in those clutch times.
It’s no coincidence Iman Shumpert’s meteoric rise in Texas occurred just as Anthony returned. Shumpert said Melo’s prodding has worked and he shot 14 of 16 on 3-pointers in San Antonio and Houston, and won the game with two big late buckets in Dallas on Sunday.
Anthony is probably closer to Shumpert, in the middle of a season-long malaise, than anyone on the team.
“For everyone on the court, the thing is just be patient,’’ Anthony said. “When that time comes at the end of the game, a lot of things are open. Teams are double- and triple-teaming me. And I told them I’m going to find them. It’s up to you to make the shot, but I’m going to find you.’’


JR stop taking the ball to the hole, and thats why he's playing poorly, shooting poorly, and his numbers are way down, He was avg about 6 FTs for a good stretch last yr, and taking high pct shots.

And as we discuss early in the thread, woodson continues to go to melo at every turn in the clutch, and it looks like melo finally had to realize that sht ain't working, Im sure melo told woodson he was tired of the ISO's.

Why are we dead last in fast break points, why are we dead last in FT attempts, little things that win games..

do you see this team on a fast break, is like watch CAMBY take a jump shot. Theres no spacing and they give up the rock to soon, too late, too high or too low, very rarely does it go right, it's like they don't even practice 101 basketball. sometime getting on track means go back to basic..

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Go Fast Or Go Home

hy are we dead last in fast break points, why are we dead last in FT attempts, little things that win games..
do you see this team on a fast break, is like watch CAMBY take a jump shot. Theres no spacing and they give up the rock to soon, too late, too high or too low, very rarely does it go right

knicks1248 - you ever watch the MSG videos of so-called practice highlights? One major beef The Answer Man has is the half speed full court drills. If you are going to run something, run it full speed or not at all.

The Knicks have no fast break.

My kingdom for an elite point guard...

...or a rebound and an outlet pass.

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1/6/2014  9:53 PM
misterearl wrote:Go Fast Or Go Home

hy are we dead last in fast break points, why are we dead last in FT attempts, little things that win games..
do you see this team on a fast break, is like watch CAMBY take a jump shot. Theres no spacing and they give up the rock to soon, too late, too high or too low, very rarely does it go right

knicks1248 - you ever watch the MSG videos of so-called practice highlights? One major beef The Answer Man has is the half speed full court drills. If you are going to run something, run it full speed or not at all.

The Knicks have no fast break.

My kingdom for an elite point guard...

...or a rebound and an outlet pass.

I'm so sick of seeing shump,JR, priggs run down court at top speed only to turn into a half court possession, that results in a jump shot.

I'm sick of seeing guys get all the way to the rim and kick it out instead of going for the AND 1

So if Woodson isn't pushing his team to take it to the hole (like he did JR last yr) what the hell is he doing? and if he is...like i said earlier, then his words aren't being heard clearly.

KNICKS SCOUTING REPORT- Pack the paint and let them shoot jump shots...

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1/6/2014  10:03 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
misterearl wrote:Go Fast Or Go Home

hy are we dead last in fast break points, why are we dead last in FT attempts, little things that win games..
do you see this team on a fast break, is like watch CAMBY take a jump shot. Theres no spacing and they give up the rock to soon, too late, too high or too low, very rarely does it go right

knicks1248 - you ever watch the MSG videos of so-called practice highlights? One major beef The Answer Man has is the half speed full court drills. If you are going to run something, run it full speed or not at all.

The Knicks have no fast break.

My kingdom for an elite point guard...

...or a rebound and an outlet pass.

I'm so sick of seeing shump,JR, priggs run down court at top speed only to turn into a half court possession, that results in a jump shot.

I'm sick of seeing guys get all the way to the rim and kick it out instead of going for the AND 1

So if Woodson isn't pushing his team to take it to the hole (like he did JR last yr) what the hell is he doing? and if he is...like i said earlier, then his words aren't being heard clearly.

KNICKS SCOUTING REPORT- Pack the paint and let them shoot jump shots...

Nah the scouting report is guard the 3pt line and watch the team flounder. A simple 3-2 zone shuts this team down. No use packing the paint when the Knicks don't drive anyway.

I still think woody is a brick head, but he did so much better against the spurs

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