H1AND1 wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

holfresh wrote:

fishmike wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

holfresh wrote:Linsanity??..We won 54 games last year and 13 in a row..

We won 54 because the 3 headed PG monster did an ok job. It was a 1 year thing. Kidd has moved on. Pablo got older. Felton showed his true blubber.

Curse of the Dragon. Unless we get lucky and get another very good PG then we are going to see this kind of play for years to come. We don't even have our own ****ing pick this year which is going to be in the lottery. Yeah, I know stating the obvious.

Instead of Lin we get the Knucklehead brothers. Yippee.

better then an OK job. Kidd's play early in the season was vintage Kidd. He set the tone and set a style of play. we have not had that this year. At all, and everyone on this roster looks worse because of it.

I brought up Linsanity because Tyson Chandler looked good offensively. Jared Jeffries was getting buckets and looked like a real NBA player. Good guard play elevated the whole team. Bad guard play can bring down a whole team. We are seeing it now and we have need it before on this same team very recently pre-linsanity.

I undertsand that MSG didnt want to overpay for Lowry, but they were so worried about overpaying that they didnt consider their team needs.

Kidd went down and we were still playing great basketball...Second half of the year, Kidd imploded and we went on to win 13 in a row...Common denominator???, Felton!!..Jason Kidd said Felton was the engine...MVP against Boston in the playoffs...When Felton wasn't hurt, we played good basketball, we won...Felton has been hurt since preseason this year..We suck without him at 100% getting in the lane, period...

Kidd as savior is the common chant of Melohaters everywhere. Kidd, Rasheed, geez, I even read about Camby leading us through the playoffs without even playing.

Lin...in...Houston...can't...compete...with...Patrick...Beverly...

Here's what I don't get whenever people defend letting Lin walk. Even if you take the view that Lin was at BEST a serviceable backup PG (his numbers certainly bear that out), we got him without giving up any assets, won his bird rights via an arbitration hearing THEN LET HIM WALK FOR NOTHING when our not even close biggest need is serviceable guards! How ax anyone seriously defend the Knicks decision making here? And screw the cap, this is the Dolan Knicks who spent billions marching out garbage teams for a decade.

CrushAlot wrote:

H1AND1 wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

holfresh wrote:

fishmike wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

holfresh wrote:Linsanity??..We won 54 games last year and 13 in a row..

We won 54 because the 3 headed PG monster did an ok job. It was a 1 year thing. Kidd has moved on. Pablo got older. Felton showed his true blubber.

Curse of the Dragon. Unless we get lucky and get another very good PG then we are going to see this kind of play for years to come. We don't even have our own ****ing pick this year which is going to be in the lottery. Yeah, I know stating the obvious.

Instead of Lin we get the Knucklehead brothers. Yippee.

better then an OK job. Kidd's play early in the season was vintage Kidd. He set the tone and set a style of play. we have not had that this year. At all, and everyone on this roster looks worse because of it.

I brought up Linsanity because Tyson Chandler looked good offensively. Jared Jeffries was getting buckets and looked like a real NBA player. Good guard play elevated the whole team. Bad guard play can bring down a whole team. We are seeing it now and we have need it before on this same team very recently pre-linsanity.

I undertsand that MSG didnt want to overpay for Lowry, but they were so worried about overpaying that they didnt consider their team needs.

Kidd went down and we were still playing great basketball...Second half of the year, Kidd imploded and we went on to win 13 in a row...Common denominator???, Felton!!..Jason Kidd said Felton was the engine...MVP against Boston in the playoffs...When Felton wasn't hurt, we played good basketball, we won...Felton has been hurt since preseason this year..We suck without him at 100% getting in the lane, period...

Kidd as savior is the common chant of Melohaters everywhere. Kidd, Rasheed, geez, I even read about Camby leading us through the playoffs without even playing.

Lin...in...Houston...can't...compete...with...Patrick...Beverly...

Here's what I don't get whenever people defend letting Lin walk. Even if you take the view that Lin was at BEST a serviceable backup PG (his numbers certainly bear that out), we got him without giving up any assets, won his bird rights via an arbitration hearing THEN LET HIM WALK FOR NOTHING when our not even close biggest need is serviceable guards! How ax anyone seriously defend the Knicks decision making here? And screw the cap, this is the Dolan Knicks who spent billions marching out garbage teams for a decade.

Morey and or Lin's agent negotiated a deal that was too much for the Knicks to match. 65 million was one of the figures being thrown around as to what year three of that deal would cost the Knicks.

This is the same franchise that paid Larry Brown $40 million or whatever for 1 year of coaching. Jerome James 30 mil to eat instead of ball. Allan Houston $100 mil when no other team was offering more than what? 60-70 million? What did Shandan Anderson and Howard Eisley get combined again? How about Clarence Witherspoon getting the full MLE for 4 years. Eddy Curry getting max'ed. And more recently Amare getting $100 million uninsured when his own team wouldn't go near that amount. I could go on and on here.

The point is that the Knicks all of a sudden caring about money doesn't jive. This fiscal responsibility seems to _only_ be a factor in Lin's situation.

H1AND1 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

H1AND1 wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

holfresh wrote:

fishmike wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

holfresh wrote:Linsanity??..We won 54 games last year and 13 in a row..

We won 54 because the 3 headed PG monster did an ok job. It was a 1 year thing. Kidd has moved on. Pablo got older. Felton showed his true blubber.

Curse of the Dragon. Unless we get lucky and get another very good PG then we are going to see this kind of play for years to come. We don't even have our own ****ing pick this year which is going to be in the lottery. Yeah, I know stating the obvious.

Instead of Lin we get the Knucklehead brothers. Yippee.

better then an OK job. Kidd's play early in the season was vintage Kidd. He set the tone and set a style of play. we have not had that this year. At all, and everyone on this roster looks worse because of it.

I brought up Linsanity because Tyson Chandler looked good offensively. Jared Jeffries was getting buckets and looked like a real NBA player. Good guard play elevated the whole team. Bad guard play can bring down a whole team. We are seeing it now and we have need it before on this same team very recently pre-linsanity.

I undertsand that MSG didnt want to overpay for Lowry, but they were so worried about overpaying that they didnt consider their team needs.

Kidd went down and we were still playing great basketball...Second half of the year, Kidd imploded and we went on to win 13 in a row...Common denominator???, Felton!!..Jason Kidd said Felton was the engine...MVP against Boston in the playoffs...When Felton wasn't hurt, we played good basketball, we won...Felton has been hurt since preseason this year..We suck without him at 100% getting in the lane, period...

Kidd as savior is the common chant of Melohaters everywhere. Kidd, Rasheed, geez, I even read about Camby leading us through the playoffs without even playing.

Lin...in...Houston...can't...compete...with...Patrick...Beverly...

Here's what I don't get whenever people defend letting Lin walk. Even if you take the view that Lin was at BEST a serviceable backup PG (his numbers certainly bear that out), we got him without giving up any assets, won his bird rights via an arbitration hearing THEN LET HIM WALK FOR NOTHING when our not even close biggest need is serviceable guards! How ax anyone seriously defend the Knicks decision making here? And screw the cap, this is the Dolan Knicks who spent billions marching out garbage teams for a decade.

Morey and or Lin's agent negotiated a deal that was too much for the Knicks to match. 65 million was one of the figures being thrown around as to what year three of that deal would cost the Knicks.

This is the same franchise that paid Larry Brown $40 million or whatever for 1 year of coaching. Jerome James 30 mil to eat instead of ball. Allan Houston $100 mil when no other team was offering more than what? 60-70 million? What did Shandan Anderson and Howard Eisley get combined again? How about Clarence Witherspoon getting the full MLE for 4 years. Eddy Curry getting max'ed. And more recently Amare getting $100 million uninsured when his own team wouldn't go near that amount. I could go on and on here.

The point is that the Knicks all of a sudden caring about money doesn't jive. This fiscal responsibility seems to _only_ be a factor in Lin's situation.

CrushAlot wrote:

H1AND1 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

H1AND1 wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

holfresh wrote:

fishmike wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

holfresh wrote:Linsanity??..We won 54 games last year and 13 in a row..

We won 54 because the 3 headed PG monster did an ok job. It was a 1 year thing. Kidd has moved on. Pablo got older. Felton showed his true blubber.

Curse of the Dragon. Unless we get lucky and get another very good PG then we are going to see this kind of play for years to come. We don't even have our own ****ing pick this year which is going to be in the lottery. Yeah, I know stating the obvious.

Instead of Lin we get the Knucklehead brothers. Yippee.

better then an OK job. Kidd's play early in the season was vintage Kidd. He set the tone and set a style of play. we have not had that this year. At all, and everyone on this roster looks worse because of it.

I brought up Linsanity because Tyson Chandler looked good offensively. Jared Jeffries was getting buckets and looked like a real NBA player. Good guard play elevated the whole team. Bad guard play can bring down a whole team. We are seeing it now and we have need it before on this same team very recently pre-linsanity.

I undertsand that MSG didnt want to overpay for Lowry, but they were so worried about overpaying that they didnt consider their team needs.

Kidd went down and we were still playing great basketball...Second half of the year, Kidd imploded and we went on to win 13 in a row...Common denominator???, Felton!!..Jason Kidd said Felton was the engine...MVP against Boston in the playoffs...When Felton wasn't hurt, we played good basketball, we won...Felton has been hurt since preseason this year..We suck without him at 100% getting in the lane, period...

Kidd as savior is the common chant of Melohaters everywhere. Kidd, Rasheed, geez, I even read about Camby leading us through the playoffs without even playing.

Lin...in...Houston...can't...compete...with...Patrick...Beverly...

Here's what I don't get whenever people defend letting Lin walk. Even if you take the view that Lin was at BEST a serviceable backup PG (his numbers certainly bear that out), we got him without giving up any assets, won his bird rights via an arbitration hearing THEN LET HIM WALK FOR NOTHING when our not even close biggest need is serviceable guards! How ax anyone seriously defend the Knicks decision making here? And screw the cap, this is the Dolan Knicks who spent billions marching out garbage teams for a decade.

Morey and or Lin's agent negotiated a deal that was too much for the Knicks to match. 65 million was one of the figures being thrown around as to what year three of that deal would cost the Knicks.

This is the same franchise that paid Larry Brown $40 million or whatever for 1 year of coaching. Jerome James 30 mil to eat instead of ball. Allan Houston $100 mil when no other team was offering more than what? 60-70 million? What did Shandan Anderson and Howard Eisley get combined again? How about Clarence Witherspoon getting the full MLE for 4 years. Eddy Curry getting max'ed. And more recently Amare getting $100 million uninsured when his own team wouldn't go near that amount. I could go on and on here.

The point is that the Knicks all of a sudden caring about money doesn't jive. This fiscal responsibility seems to _only_ be a factor in Lin's situation.

Basically Dolan is stupid if he matches and stupid if he doesn't.

far stupider not to match. only a ****head like dolan could **** up this walsh-generated karmic gift and godsend.

fishmike wrote:Guard play... that simple. In steps a guy who dribbled with his head up, could get in the lane, could make a pass and was a threat to score.

Do folks remember how utterly terrible the team looked with a healthy Melo/Amare/Chandler when Toney Douglas was running point and folks were waiting for Baron Davis to come back?

Im a bit suprised we didnt just get Lowry and work on an extension etc.. This team so desperately needs what he brings. This team is not as bad as its record.

We dont have a 55% post player (Ewing) that allows our PGs to walk the ball up the court and drop it into the paint. We need a floor general to get guys involved. What we have are some 'scorers' chucking the ball at the rim everything they can actually see it.

No one has forgotten. Stevie Wonder can see that we have no options at PG. I am to the point where I can't even buy into a healthy Felton. I think this season is already lost. I just hope we can address this gap next season.Also, I think this JR situation is quickly becoming a powder keg. The guys hasn't been the same since the elbow game, and I don't think he is the least bit remorseful about the situation too. At this point, I am not sure how long it will take this guy to come back to form. I hope he does and soon.

CrushAlot wrote:

dk7th wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

H1AND1 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

H1AND1 wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

holfresh wrote:

fishmike wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

holfresh wrote:Linsanity??..We won 54 games last year and 13 in a row..

We won 54 because the 3 headed PG monster did an ok job. It was a 1 year thing. Kidd has moved on. Pablo got older. Felton showed his true blubber.

Curse of the Dragon. Unless we get lucky and get another very good PG then we are going to see this kind of play for years to come. We don't even have our own ****ing pick this year which is going to be in the lottery. Yeah, I know stating the obvious.

Instead of Lin we get the Knucklehead brothers. Yippee.

better then an OK job. Kidd's play early in the season was vintage Kidd. He set the tone and set a style of play. we have not had that this year. At all, and everyone on this roster looks worse because of it.

I brought up Linsanity because Tyson Chandler looked good offensively. Jared Jeffries was getting buckets and looked like a real NBA player. Good guard play elevated the whole team. Bad guard play can bring down a whole team. We are seeing it now and we have need it before on this same team very recently pre-linsanity.

I undertsand that MSG didnt want to overpay for Lowry, but they were so worried about overpaying that they didnt consider their team needs.

Kidd went down and we were still playing great basketball...Second half of the year, Kidd imploded and we went on to win 13 in a row...Common denominator???, Felton!!..Jason Kidd said Felton was the engine...MVP against Boston in the playoffs...When Felton wasn't hurt, we played good basketball, we won...Felton has been hurt since preseason this year..We suck without him at 100% getting in the lane, period...

Kidd as savior is the common chant of Melohaters everywhere. Kidd, Rasheed, geez, I even read about Camby leading us through the playoffs without even playing.

Lin...in...Houston...can't...compete...with...Patrick...Beverly...

Here's what I don't get whenever people defend letting Lin walk. Even if you take the view that Lin was at BEST a serviceable backup PG (his numbers certainly bear that out), we got him without giving up any assets, won his bird rights via an arbitration hearing THEN LET HIM WALK FOR NOTHING when our not even close biggest need is serviceable guards! How ax anyone seriously defend the Knicks decision making here? And screw the cap, this is the Dolan Knicks who spent billions marching out garbage teams for a decade.

Morey and or Lin's agent negotiated a deal that was too much for the Knicks to match. 65 million was one of the figures being thrown around as to what year three of that deal would cost the Knicks.

This is the same franchise that paid Larry Brown $40 million or whatever for 1 year of coaching. Jerome James 30 mil to eat instead of ball. Allan Houston $100 mil when no other team was offering more than what? 60-70 million? What did Shandan Anderson and Howard Eisley get combined again? How about Clarence Witherspoon getting the full MLE for 4 years. Eddy Curry getting max'ed. And more recently Amare getting $100 million uninsured when his own team wouldn't go near that amount. I could go on and on here.

The point is that the Knicks all of a sudden caring about money doesn't jive. This fiscal responsibility seems to _only_ be a factor in Lin's situation.

Basically Dolan is stupid if he matches and stupid if he doesn't.

far stupider not to match. only a ****head like dolan could **** up this walsh-generated karmic gift and godsend.

Grunwald was the gm when the Rockets waived Lin and the Knicks claimed him.

i remember reading that the knicks were keeping tabs on lin when walsh was there.

dk7th wrote:

jrodmc wrote:Have folks realized Linsanity is really over?

Have folks realized that the Knicks are 9-21 for the second-worst record in the NBA? The point of thinking about Lin is imagining how good the Knicks might have been both last season and this season.

They would have been better even if Melo did not like having to share the ball.

jrodmc wrote:Have folks realized Linsanity is really over?

For shame!!!

Martin, can we please ban jrodmc???

Lin is such a Hotty McHotterson!